ULMB at 85Hz should be a good compromise that's worth checking out when your card can't push higher. (still waiting for them to be in stock here so I can try it out)
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q monitor, 1440p/144hz/G-Sync
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ULMB at 85Hz should be a good compromise that's worth checking out when your card can't push higher. (still waiting for them to be in stock here so I can try it out)
plagiarize
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If Nvidia launch their new graphics cards before I can get one of these, I'm going to go crazy. Still hopefully in a few short weeks I'll have one hooked up to a card that does Gsync and I'll be having my mind blown too.
Thanks for the link. One of these (KB2984006; KB2975719; KB2984006) Windows updates solved the problem.
Also for anyone who cares about power consumption. My PC draws 30W more at 120/144Hz in idle. So it's better if you set it to 60/85Hz when you're surfing/downloading.
Dusktildawn48
Member
are there other ones out now? besides the diy kit.
I thought there were. Now I'm sad.
Dusktildawn48
Member
theres this one in late october
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MUTW5LG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
edit: hopefully the benq one comes soon after that.
michaelius
Banned
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I got the monitor set up, and I'm in two minds about it. One the one hand, it's awesome for games, for reasons that are pretty obvious. But on the other... the viewing angles are already kind of annoying me. Even looking at the thing dead on, when you're browsing web sites, it's impossible to have a white background look consistently white. It's a cool monitor, but I'm tempted to send it back and wait for an IPS or VA to offer G-SYNC.
Edit: There's also a large spot of the screen that's a little darker than the rest of it. Thing's going back. Cool idea, and I'd love to have a monitor that does 120hz, but this isn't it. Certainly not for $800.
Edit: There's also a large spot of the screen that's a little darker than the rest of it. Thing's going back. Cool idea, and I'd love to have a monitor that does 120hz, but this isn't it. Certainly not for $800.
2 full days have passed since my Swift arrived, here is my take on it.
It arrived on Tuesday, I excitedly opened the rather large box and was pleased with the overall look of the monitor and the build quality seems really nice. I powered the monitor up before it was connected to the PC and was rather disappointed with the black screen that appeared after the quick ROG logo, it really showed how bright the screen would be when displaying a completely black background, (Probably spoiled myself over the years with Plasma(TV) and OLED(HMZ-T1) Not the greatest start but once displaying the pc input the colours and brightness were a pleasant surprise, restoring some of the hope and belief I had in this monitor. Now for some testing.
Dolphin - was excited to see how well this would play with G-sync and I was not dissapointed, I downloaded the latest build as proper fullscreen (which G-sync needs) was only recently added.I tested out games that were dropping frames, Super Mario Galaxy 2 runs so much better now, a pretty consistently smooth performance, f-zero was another that ran much nicer better than my previous experience. I will not waste to much time explaining the difference on each game, but just say that I was very pleased with the performance and look forward to trying out more emulators with G-sync.
G-synced Games - Now this is something I have been looking forward to for a long time, and it is quite fantastic. G-sync has opened up a lot of games that I could not put up with because of stutter and even better, other games that I had no problem in feel even better, games with an unlocked framerate can fly up to 144hz and they feel fantastic, racing games especially, you will still feel stutter if it is on the side of the game engine (streaming textures/assets) I am just going to list some games that normally have stutter that feel so much better now.
Watch dogs
GTA IV
Prototype 2
NFS Shift 2
Assassin's Creed IV
Dead Rising 3
3D Vision 2 and ULMB - I have thrown the 2 features together here as 3d vision 2 actually does a strobe effect as in ULMB to reduce ghosting and its pretty damn effective, I have only tested out a few games (Remember Me and Alice), I downloaded the helix mods and was actually surprised at the lack of ghosting, so I checked out the Nvidia 3D demo logo which is really high contrast and easy to spot ghosting, there is ghosting but you really have to go looking for it, that was a huge surprise to me, a very pleasant one. ULMB is fantastic on its own right as well, it is really noticeable on steam big picture mode when flicking between games, it really keeps a high motion resolution.
Portrait mode - The swift is so easy to easy to throw into portrait position that I tried a couple fo games out, namely Ikaragu and Pinball Fx and they look really fantastic, coupled with G-sync they played great as well. I am now actively looking for MAME games that run in portrait mode to check out.
Loving the monitor now, its the best Gaming panel out there by a long shot at the moment, at least until we have a 144hz OLED G-sync ULMB model.
My keyboard is playing up and I am going to leave it there as I am fed up of editing over all the missed keys, if you have any questions just ask.
It arrived on Tuesday, I excitedly opened the rather large box and was pleased with the overall look of the monitor and the build quality seems really nice. I powered the monitor up before it was connected to the PC and was rather disappointed with the black screen that appeared after the quick ROG logo, it really showed how bright the screen would be when displaying a completely black background, (Probably spoiled myself over the years with Plasma(TV) and OLED(HMZ-T1) Not the greatest start but once displaying the pc input the colours and brightness were a pleasant surprise, restoring some of the hope and belief I had in this monitor. Now for some testing.
Dolphin - was excited to see how well this would play with G-sync and I was not dissapointed, I downloaded the latest build as proper fullscreen (which G-sync needs) was only recently added.I tested out games that were dropping frames, Super Mario Galaxy 2 runs so much better now, a pretty consistently smooth performance, f-zero was another that ran much nicer better than my previous experience. I will not waste to much time explaining the difference on each game, but just say that I was very pleased with the performance and look forward to trying out more emulators with G-sync.
G-synced Games - Now this is something I have been looking forward to for a long time, and it is quite fantastic. G-sync has opened up a lot of games that I could not put up with because of stutter and even better, other games that I had no problem in feel even better, games with an unlocked framerate can fly up to 144hz and they feel fantastic, racing games especially, you will still feel stutter if it is on the side of the game engine (streaming textures/assets) I am just going to list some games that normally have stutter that feel so much better now.
Watch dogs
GTA IV
Prototype 2
NFS Shift 2
Assassin's Creed IV
Dead Rising 3
3D Vision 2 and ULMB - I have thrown the 2 features together here as 3d vision 2 actually does a strobe effect as in ULMB to reduce ghosting and its pretty damn effective, I have only tested out a few games (Remember Me and Alice), I downloaded the helix mods and was actually surprised at the lack of ghosting, so I checked out the Nvidia 3D demo logo which is really high contrast and easy to spot ghosting, there is ghosting but you really have to go looking for it, that was a huge surprise to me, a very pleasant one. ULMB is fantastic on its own right as well, it is really noticeable on steam big picture mode when flicking between games, it really keeps a high motion resolution.
Portrait mode - The swift is so easy to easy to throw into portrait position that I tried a couple fo games out, namely Ikaragu and Pinball Fx and they look really fantastic, coupled with G-sync they played great as well. I am now actively looking for MAME games that run in portrait mode to check out.
Loving the monitor now, its the best Gaming panel out there by a long shot at the moment, at least until we have a 144hz OLED G-sync ULMB model.
My keyboard is playing up and I am going to leave it there as I am fed up of editing over all the missed keys, if you have any questions just ask.
Portrait mode - The swift is so easy to easy to throw into portrait position that I tried a couple fo games out, namely Ikaragu and Pinball Fx and they look really fantastic, coupled with G-sync they played great as well. I am now actively looking for MAME games that run in portrait mode to check out.
When it comes to MAME, Raiden Fighters and DoDonPachi are portrait mode games and are perfect examples of how much gsync rules. These games run at 55hz and 57hz respectively, so traditionally you would either have to:
1. let it tear and get some seriously slamming tear lines
2. turn on vsync and get significant pulldown/stuttering as well as vsync lag stacking on top of emulator lag
3. force the game to run at an emulated 60hz to mitigate (but not eliminate) tearing/pulldown, notably changing the game experience
But now, with gsync? Shit, you just run it and it's practically perfect. No additional lag, no additional stutter, no tearing, you just get the arcade game.
Zeyphersan
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Are there any Gsync monitors out there currently (or announced) that aren't TN?
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Why are they taking forever to get G-sync monitors out there?
For those curious about it, many games still crash if g-sync is activated with the latest nvidia drivers if the oculus runtime is installed.
The only difference is that the computer doesn't reboot anymore, instead said games crash back to the desktop. I'll submit a report to Nvidia later when I have time.
The only difference is that the computer doesn't reboot anymore, instead said games crash back to the desktop. I'll submit a report to Nvidia later when I have time.
That's not Amazon proper but some affiliate instead.
plagiarize
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I got an email from TigerDirect saying my backordered Swift is expected to ship on October 30th. I really hope that's overly conservative.
My 3 SLI GTX980s are going to be twiddling their thumbs for a while if that's accurate.
My 3 SLI GTX980s are going to be twiddling their thumbs for a while if that's accurate.
Yeah.......
If it helps, there's some in stock at Frys in Las Vegas and Georgia.
They come in and out of stock at all of their locations pretty regularly. Keep an eye out there perhaps.
plagiarize
Banned
There doesn't seem to be a Frys anywhere near Cape Cod MA, unfortunately. I'm not going to give up, obviously. If I see them back on sale at Amazon or anywhere I'll be jumping on it and cancelling that back order... but at least I have it back ordered somewhere.
Le sigh.
nextgeneration
Member
Anyone know if this monitor would fix the microstuttering that you sometimes see in multi-gpu setups?
plagiarize
Banned
fix... no, but it mitigates it drastically. higher hz and images displaying right when they leave the graphics card help a lot from what I've heard.
and for the record 2 GPU set ups are really the only ones where microstutter is overtly a problem, again, at least from the benchmarks and analysis I've seen on them.
I hope that's all true, because I'm hoping to run this with a 3 gpu setup. Again, to knowingly harp on about it, if I can get my hands on one of these goddamn monitors anyway.
Yes and no.
Most newer architectures have taken huge measures for fixing this in games they have SLI or crossfile profiles for, though.
There was a pretty huge development that started with TechReport, and later improved upon by PCPer with actually looking at frame time data. The buzzword for smooth delivery of frames (avoiding microstutter), is called "frame pacing". It's been at the forefront of AMD and NVIDIA drivers for the last two years.
Basically, Kepler and Maxwell have no issues. AMD's GCN is good in anything other than multi-frame 4K and DX9. The new R9 285, 290, 290X, and 295 do a good job too.
The only place you'll see it now are in games without profiles (for the most part), and even with matching the screen refresh to the frame delivery, you're still going to get stutters. It'll make it slightly less jarring, as there won't be accompanying artifacts like tearing, but the slowdown is still there.
nextgeneration
Member
Yeah, I'd love to test this out but I can't find the damn monitor anywhere! >< Tomb Raider, for example, has bad microstutter on my two 680's. But if I disable one of the cards, gameplay is perfectly smooth.
Hmm, ok, thanks for the info!
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Sent mine back. I feel a lot better. Was fantastic for games, but my God are TNs awful for everything else. If I had room for an IPS for non-gaming stuff and then this thing on the side, then maybe... but frankly, the thing just wasn't worth anywhere near $800 to me and sure as hell wasn't the all-purpose monitor I was hoping it would be.
You shouldn't be having much of an issue with microstutters. The frame time variance between two 760s and a single 780 here isn't very different:
There are those slight bumpy sections though.
nextgeneration
Member
You shouldn't be having much of an issue with microstutters. The frame time variance between two 760s and a single 780 here isn't very different:
There are those slight bumpy sections though.
Hmm, don't know. I've stopped playing the game (beat it long time ago), so it doesn't matter at this point. At this point, I just want to see if the monitor would iron out the choppiness that I'm seeing with two 680's.
What CPU and motherboard are you using?
nextgeneration
Member
nextgeneration
Member
Yeah, that could be it. This is how I tested it, btw. In one of the secret tombs, I would just leave Lara stationary and turn 360 degrees. With SLI enabled, my frame rate was above 100 but the game would hitch as I turned. With one card, the frame rates were lower, but when I turned 360 degrees, it was considerably smoother and I noticed no hitching.
Also, just for general gameplay (I didn't do a lot of this, since I beat the game already), single card is just an overall smoother gameplay experience. Also note that in other games, SLI works pretty well. It's only Tomb Raider that it's really noticeable. In other games, not as much.
plagiarize
Banned
Tiger Direct cancelled my back order. They don't list the ROG Swift on the site anymore either...
Damnit. The hunt continues.
Damnit. The hunt continues.
I thought you had already got one after I seen you were playing GTA IV the other day, that game plays much better with G-sync.
Loving the monitor, some games flow from the monitor like liquid. Killer is dead and Grid - autosport have been huge favourites of mine so far. Looking forward to playing through Shadow of mordor and Ryse.
plagiarize
Banned
I was playing it with DSR at 4K since it's still CPU limited even on my 5930K... but yeah, the 35 to 100 fps I was getting with vsync off (60 fps or so average) would be ideal for gsync.
Still hunting. NCIX US went from predicting to get stock in today, to not having a date. Maybe I missed them. I've been looking at reviews and specs of other products all morning, and nothing is equivalent, and my PC was quite literally built for this monitor.
I've got in stock tracking. I've got numerous sites bookmarked that I'm checking regularly. It's a giant pain.
It has been available in the UK pretty freely, surprised the problems people have had picking them up elsewhere.
OldGangWarily
Member
Price on Amazon is beyond 1k now via 3rd party sellers. This is fucking ridiculous.
Chance Hale
Member
Any idea when these might be more readily available? Have the extra money to spend so I'm ready to finally splurge on it.
Frys was mentioned above but I don't see it on their site at all?
Frys was mentioned above but I don't see it on their site at all?
Chance Hale
Member
I'm so dumb, searched for Swift not PG278Q. Thanks!
Not in stock at the local Frys though, guess I can call and cross my fingers.
Not in stock at the local Frys though, guess I can call and cross my fingers.
Chance Hale
Member
Called the other day and they said they didn't know when stock would be coming in. Is it that hard to make these? Why is the stock so limited here in the US when several UK sites seem to have them?
I wonder what the sales numbers look like. Is it a situation where each store only got 1-2 of these, or is it a normal supply and demand is just a lot higher than expected?
Either way, at least the demand is there. Good news for continuing development on future high-performance displays.
With all the scalping going on, people can call it the ROG Swift PS3.
Either way, at least the demand is there. Good news for continuing development on future high-performance displays.
With all the scalping going on, people can call it the ROG Swift PS3.
I have not had any problems with crashing on mines at all, I have also had no flicker issues that some people seem to have had.
Sounds like you should return the monitor if that is still an option, and receive a replacement.