Utah police shoot black man "lunging" w/ sword. Witnesses, autopsy say shot in back

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LA Times said:
A 22-year-old black man with a sword may have been running away when Utah police fatally shot him "numerous" times from behind last week, an attorney for the man's family said over the weekend.

The attorney cited independent autopsy results on Darrien Hunt's body that appear to contradict investigators' account of what happened outside a Panda Express in Saratoga Springs on Wednesday morning.

Officials said Hunt had "lunged" at officers with the sword before they shot him. But the attorney for Hunt's family, Randall K. Edwards, said the autopsy results found that "none of these shots were from Darrien’s front."


Meanwhile, the police decided to rant on Facebook:
The police department posted a defiant statement on its Facebook page Sunday afternoon.

"Everyone should remember that the news outlets have ratings they need to gain. They don't report facts. They use innuendo, opinion and rumor and then report it as fact," said the unsigned post on the police department's Facebook page, which requested patience with the investigation. "The same thing happens here on FB and other social media. The real facts are being determined by an independent investigation, and not in a rushed or haphazard manner. ... There is no coverup and there is no corruption."

LA Times story: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-utah-police-shooting-20140914-story.html


Some interesting timing, I wonder if this will return some media attention to the situation in Ferguson as well.


Shoot me in the back if old.
 
The story I read earlier said the independent autopsy showed the shots were all in his back. Hmm. It's pretty damning if your official officer statement is directly contradicted by the evidence.
 
I'm all sorts of confused here, I'll wait for more context on the incident before continuing with this thread.

I will say at first glance this seems like standard police behaviour.

Not that its right.

The story says it was a souvenir sword with a rounded edge too? This whole thing is fucked

Damn...
 
He was actually going to use his twitch fibers to run all away around the world like the Flash and attack the cops from behind. We don't know that side of the story!!!111!!!

...shit.

The story says it was a souvenir sword with a rounded edge too? This whole thing is fucked
 
He was actually going to use his twitch fibers to run all away around the world like the Flash and attack the cops from behind. We don't know that side of the story!!!111!!!

...shit.

The story says it was a souvenir sword with a rounded edge too? This whole thing is fucked

To be fair, I doubt I could tell the difference if it's one of those decorative swords that look like the real thing.

Story is still totally fucked though.
 
If he's fleeing with a deadly weapon I can see why they might shoot him in the back. Especially if he lunged before fleeing. But yea topic has gone to shit already with the facetious replies.
 
Shot him mid spin attack?
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yes, with a dehumanizing stare

See he looked back, scared the police he was going to harm them from moving away from them...

These police stories, good god
The PR campaign that will be needed to spread across America is going to be massive
 
If he's fleeing with a deadly weapon I can see why they might shoot him in the back. Especially if he lunged before fleeing. But yea topic has gone to shit already with the facetious replies.

Why couldn't they shoot him on the leg or something?
 
If he's fleeing with a deadly weapon I can see why they might shoot him in the back. Especially if he lunged before fleeing. But yea topic has gone to shit already with the facetious replies.

Well it was a souvenir sword with rounded edges and the cops said they shot him because he lunged at them not that he was fleeing.
 
If he's fleeing with a deadly weapon I can see why they might shoot him in the back. Especially if he lunged before fleeing. But yea topic has gone to shit already with the facetious replies.


Lunged before fleeing huh.


So was that like some kung lao type shit he did there?
 
Cops are going to mess around and lose their 2nd amendment rights to shoot running minorities in the back.

Lunged before fleeing huh.


So was that like some kung lao type shit he did there?

flying kicks breh. They saw his meter charging up, they had to do something.
 
Schattenjäger;130050746 said:
Collateral damage
Cops are trained to kill when shooting

Still not enough facts about this case

It's hilarious that this post looks like the rest of the satire in this thread. Poe's law is real.
 
Well it was a souvenir sword with rounded edges and the cops said they shot him because he lunged at them not that he was fleeing.

So he lunged = moved forward, no shots fired
So he flees = moved backwards/away, shots fired
 
I see a kid shot on the way home from a store Im gonna be a bit outraged, I see a kid with his hands raised in the air get shot I'm gonna be a bit outraged. I see a man with a sword shot and I'm gonna err on the side of caution till I get all up in arms about how he was shot.

Lunged before fleeing huh.


So was that like some kung lao type shit he did there?

Were you an eyewitness?

Well it was a souvenir sword with rounded edges and the cops said they shot him because he lunged at them not that he was fleeing.
Could you tell in the heat of the moment? And yea the story doesn't match up but assuming wrong doing immediatly tells me youre not looking at it objectively. If you're not, thats fine,but at least recognise it.
 
It's simple really, don't do stupid shit and you will be alright. Especially if you are black you will just be shot and killed.

Just lie down on the ground and start crying for momma. When the kicks stop and they arrest you, at least you will still be alive. And hopefully a witness will come forward with some video showing that you didn't do anything wrong.
 
I see a kid shot on the way home from a store Im gonna be a bit outraged, I see a kid with his hands raised in the air get shot I'm gonna be a bit outraged. I see a man with a sword shot and I'm gonna err on the side of caution till I get all up in arms about how he was shot.



Were you an eyewitness?

Could you tell in the heat of the moment? And yea the story doesn't match up but assuming wrong doing immediatly tells me youre not looking at it objectively. If you're not, thats fine,but at least recognise it.


Were you an eyewitness to the internet? Is it even real?

Were you there?
 
I see a kid shot on the way home from a store Im gonna be a bit outraged, I see a kid with his hands raised in the air get shot I'm gonna be a bit outraged. I see a man with a sword shot and I'm gonna err on the side of caution till I get all up in arms about how he was shot.



Were you an eyewitness?

Could you tell in the heat of the moment? And yea the story doesn't match up but assuming wrong doing immediatly tells me youre not looking at it objectively. If you're not, thats fine,but at least recognise it.
It depends dude like if the cops didn't indentify that they were police, didn't tell him to drop the weapon didn't tell him to put his hands up, and just pointed guns at the kid then I'm actually not surprised that he tried to flee. We don't have the whole story but he was shot while fleeing according to the article which claims to include eye witness testimony.
 
I'll concede that there honestly isn't enough info from the story linked in the OP to draw definite conclusions, but the cops haven't done much to gain the benefit of the doubt, especially if the autopsy findings are 100%
 
So we have an attorney saying he was shot in the back, while also not identifying who conducted the autopsy or providing the autopsy report. Not quite ready to be outraged about this yet. Lawyers rank pretty low on my list of people to trust.
 
It depends dude like if the cops didn't indentify that they were police, didn't tell him to drop the weapon? didn't tell him to put his hands up, and just pointed guns at the kid them I'm actually not surprised that he tried to flee. We don't have the whole story but he was shot while fleeing according to the article which claims to include eye witness testimony.

Of course and given the track record of police it's easy to assume that. But like I said when there's a sword involved I'm not gonna leap on the cops till more evidence is in. It's not a nice place to be in when you have a deadly weapon drawn on you, from either side.
 
I see a kid shot on the way home from a store Im gonna be a bit outraged, I see a kid with his hands raised in the air get shot I'm gonna be a bit outraged. I see a man with a sword shot and I'm gonna err on the side of caution till I get all up in arms about how he was shot.



Were you an eyewitness?

Could you tell in the heat of the moment? And yea the story doesn't match up but assuming wrong doing immediatly tells me youre not looking at it objectively. If you're not, thats fine,but at least recognise it.

So because I am not giving the cops the benefit of the doubt like you, I am not being objective? Where in the story does it say he lunged at the cops then was shot in the back by while fleeing? The police report mention nothing about him fleeing before being shot.
 
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