Moff
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of course, because its the people who point out racism, who are the real racists and hatemongers, we've learned that from fox news
Actress Daniele Watts reported for lewd acts, goes nuts at police investigating
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of course, because its the people who point out racism, who are the real racists and hatemongers, we've learned that from fox news
I would want to see the incident or emergency services report. no arrest? fine, but the 911 call would be on record. I think them announcing that someone called the police on random black woman on the street, as in literally calling 911, is complete and absolute bullshit.
Who the fuck does that? But it does "absolve" police since they have their criminal complaint and probable cause. But without that, they look like idiots barking up the wrong tree, or, (and weekend-warrior is gonna love this), racial profilers.
Sue. get that information request, and smack them across the nose with it.
people like you who allow the race flame to smoulder and burn are somehow better?
Who the fuck does that? But it does "absolve" police since they have their criminal complaint and probable cause. But without that, they look like idiots barking up the wrong tree, or, (and weekend-warrior is gonna love this), racial profilers.
Sue. get that information request, and smack them across the nose with it.
people like you who allow the race flame to smoulder and burn are somehow better?
This is so terrible.
The really sad thing is that this happens pretty regularly, but the lack of celebrity status often means the lack of media coverage. At this point, blacks are tired of being told to "stop bringing this stuff up," and "stop fanning the flames of racism," when, time and time again, we're the ones being stop and frisked 90% of the time. We're the ones being assumed to be criminals for simply walking down the street wearing a hoodie, or leaning on a toy BB gun, talking on the phone to his girlfriend. The thing is, most of the time, blacks are doing anything wrong, but when these types of injustices happen to us, it's either assumed that we were doing something wrong, or people want us to just "stop talking about it already!"
The point is that progress ISN'T being made. But there seems to be greater and greater numbers of people not experiencing this type of discrimination that just want to keep their fingers in their ears, and that's troubling, and that's why blacks are upset. It really does not feel good to be constantly, and consistently marginalized, dismissed, and dehumanized, and then told to "deal with it." It's infuriating.
The really sad thing is that this happens pretty regularly, but the lack of celebrity status often means the lack of media coverage. At this point, blacks are tired of being told to "stop bringing this stuff up," and "stop fanning the flames of racism," when, time and time again, we're the ones being stop and frisked 90% of the time. We're the ones being assumed to be criminals for simply walking down the street wearing a hoodie, or leaning on a toy BB gun, talking on the phone to his girlfriend. The thing is, most of the time, blacks are doing anything wrong, but when these types of injustices happen to us, it's either assumed that we were doing something wrong, or people want us to just "stop talking about it already!"
The point is that progress ISN'T being made. But there seems to be greater and greater numbers of people not experiencing this type of discrimination that just want to keep their fingers in their ears, and that's troubling, and that's why blacks are upset. It really does not feel good to be constantly, and consistently marginalized, dismissed, and dehumanized, and then told to "deal with it." It's infuriating.
PhineBuyM3
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This is really vile. At least be civil.
Vermillion
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I know this one guy's uncle that ignored racism and it totally went away in his life. Maybe it hasn't worked because a lot of people don't try it?
elrechazado
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why do the police need to detain citizens who didn't commit crimes just to " know who they are"?
TheLostBigBoss
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Cause it's totally legal to just arrest someone for not showing ID, especially when the "suspicion" is that a black women was kissing a white man, where the assumption of the police officers was that she was a fucking hooker.
Fucking please. PLEASE, just stop. You clearly have no clew what you're talking about by bringing the classic "Only racists bring race into the equation" argument.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I think there's a fundamental disconnect between people who think the police are elite powers above everyone (and thus are allowed to make requests like ID just because), and the people who realize they're just humans with jobs, too.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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weekend warrior's post isn't Diet Racism, it's New Racism with Salty Lemon
Crumpet Trumpet
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did he fan the race flame with his race card????
these are the dudes always end up on the damn force anyway...former military, loves law and order and authority, not racist, don't see color, never saw racism before in their lives.
add subgroups as necessary. from racism isn't a problem anymore, to racism wouldn't be a problem if you stopped bringing it up everytime something racist happens.
edit: calls it the race card as if we were all playing bid whist.
add subgroups as necessary. from racism isn't a problem anymore, to racism wouldn't be a problem if you stopped bringing it up everytime something racist happens.
edit: calls it the race card as if we were all playing bid whist.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
You do have to identify yourself to cops if they ask you to, and some places require you to carry an ID card at all times so that the cops have a way to make sure you are who you say you are.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Reposting that gif drew me to rewatching the video, forgot one of the segments is basically the exact situation in regards to police harassment, detaining etc towards black people, with a white guy saying to a white girl passing by a black guy getting patted down, something along the lines of "search and pat down shouldn't be an issue if he has nothing to hide". It's at 0:36 in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4
Gordon Shumway
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This will be the only time I will consider someone mentioning the slang variation of salt and it comes across as clever.
No. It's the victim blaming card. It's been all the rage in the past year.
As a white person, I've never been placed under arrest for 'suspicion' of anything while just going about my day. From what I've seen and heard from others who aren't white, that's not the case for them.
So the cops didn't embarrass themselves by throwing her in a jail cell or going to trial, how does that make it better?
Oh, but you think the actual issue is that she didn't show ID. Again, I've never once been asked for ID on suspicion of wrongdoing while not actually doing anything wrong. Minorities don't have that luxury (and it shouldn't even be a luxury, it should be a given).
Cops are not allowed to ask for ID without actual reasonable suspicion of a crime, but for many minorities, simply 'being' is the reasonable suspicion. While, sure, it's not something as outrageous as being thrown in a jail cell for no reason, this constant and unsubstantiated harrassment is not equal and does good for no one. It ruins trust of cops and separates communities into 'us' vs 'them'. How anyone thinks that this is what the role of police officers should be in our communities is mind boggling to me.
PhineBuyM3
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If he knows what's good for him he'll take the L and enjoy the rest of his weekend.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Maybe he's pleading his case on one of those "other" forums
Nah, it's in his name, the weekend's almost over...he'll never be in this thread again. If he does, expect some random goalpost moving and discussion on how GAF is some sort of hive mind and how he can't do anything...
People pointing out racism are the real racists! If we ignore incidents like this, they'll stop happening somehow or something.
They didn't need to figure out who she was, she had done nothing wrong. Or are you happy with people being handcuffed for not carrying ID at all times?
I live in Japan as a foreigner and I have to carry my Residence card around (or as I call it the gaijin card), and for foreign nationals in general as tourists or whatever they need to carry their passports. The latter is what I've been told and read about.
Its going to make the situation of atrocious armed officers systematically profiling and detain people with just cause worse? Or is her day going to get any worse than it already has? Or the countless peoples first hand experience with this crooked system?
I dont think NeoGAF discussion boards have that much power.
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*You tie someone innocent's hands together*
*they struggle to get free*
You then yell, "Stop struggling! You are making this a very difficult commotion for me!"
Massive Duck. C.M.
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I always have ID on me (from growing up in America), and in almost 9 years I've only been asked twice. I cooperated while grumbling, but the situation is still that you're targeted because of who you are, with no legal basis.
This is that turned up to the worst degree. I don't think in Japan cops would ask me for ID and then handcuff me because I was kissing a Japanese woman in public.
adamsappel
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And just hearing that the couple were kissing should have alerted police that she wasn't a prostitute. That's some Ace Attorney-level investigation.
CadetMahoney
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this.
Stormfront?
rykomatsu
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No, but in Japan, you'll be asked for ID just because you're Japanese.
Actually, an acquaintance of mine was accosted by cops in Japan because she looked hispanic even though she was a JPN national.
BearFlexington
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You can be a police officer without a college degree. Perhaps we need to start looking at this as the source of the problem.
So committed that he won't even use the Dark Theme, even though it's objectively better.
Mammoth Jones
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Plenty of racist people with college degrees. That's not the issue.
Yes. Even places that have a higher education requirement will largely allow this to be swapped with military experience, which is a huge problem of its own. Many officers probably have no more than a rudimentary understanding of individual rights. In their mind, they're probably not doing anything wrong when they choke someone or when their suspicion is aroused because Jane Q. Public will not submit to their authority.
It's still an issue though. I expect the people protecting us against criminals to be better than armed thugs (which many are).
BearFlexington
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I would argue that this is more than racism. This is stupidity. I would also add that while a degree does not translate into sound decision making, raising the bar on a jobs requirements tends to weed out a lot of undesirables. Why not give it a try? I mean clearly the current system isn't working.
DoktorEvil
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So shoving new recruits Into college means racism ends?
CrocMother
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Regardless of what is exactly "legal" or "right", here is some advice: If you are moving around in public in the US you really need to carry identification and be prepared to show it to the police at all times, regardless of race or gender.
Refuse to produce ID and the police will immediately assume you are a criminal. They will see you as potentially dangerous and will want to handcuff you just so they feel safe. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what happened in this case.
Refuse to produce ID and the police will immediately assume you are a criminal. They will see you as potentially dangerous and will want to handcuff you just so they feel safe. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what happened in this case.
Ingueferroque
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What the fuck does a college degree have to do with any of this?
"regardless of what is exactly 'legal' or 'right'" Ahahahah I'm dying at the way you understated that caveat. like it's no big deal to just waive all your legal rights. just comply with abuse of power brehs, makes it easier for everyone! the police operating outside of actual society can continue to restrict our rights in ways they're not supposed to and be beholden to no consequences, and citizens can continue to stand on street corners unafraid of being accosted even though they've done absolutely nothing to arouse suspicion of any criminal activity! Great tip my man.
No citizen has any reason to give a fuck if a cop feels safe or not when people are standing on a public street doing absolutely nothing suspicious. If they feel unsafe because US citizens doing nothing outside of the parameters of the law refuse to identify themselves, as is their right, then pick a new fucking job.
wanderingprostheyltite
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According to Washington Post (blog) the call that was initially made to police was for indecent exposure. All it says beyond that was they were making out in a car with the door open. Seems like the police are trying to distance themselves from the prostitute angle as no mention was made of that in their statement.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2014/09/14/django-unchained-actress-daniele-watts-says-she-was-detained-by-police-for-showing-affection-in-public/
Posts like this make me realize we already live in a dystopia.
Give up your rights so the people who are supposed to be your protectors don't curbstomp you.
Why are you quoting right and legal?
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