WrenchNinja
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Well luckily Destiny doesn't have a community to destroy
Destiny's Raid, 'Vault of Glass' is now available to play. Hardest challenge yet.
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AusRoachman
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My only worry is at this rate in a months time everyone might be gone
Game is doomed confirmed
The good thing is that the damage modifiers also affects your weapons!
Dealing massive Arc/Void/Solar damage is always fun.
Also, I don't know if ppl noticed but there are specific colors on enemies' shields, each color is weak against a specific elemental damage:
Blue - Arc
Yellow - Solar
Purple - Void
It's wise to have at least one of each type of elemental damage in tour weapons. You'll need in Nightfall and lvl24+ Strikes/Dailies/etc.
Level 14 yet lol.
That sounds like a raid in every single MMO created since WoW
The question is how bosses will be. Raids in MMO have mechanics that wouldn't work on a smaller group (4-5 players). If the bosses don't have any difference aside having their HP doubled, they'll be doing something wrong though.
No, it didn't. I mean, I played WoW before and after matchmaking appeared (in any sense, saw both Dungeon and Raid Finder, dunno about Pandaria additions) and it didn't destroyed anything.
It can sound cool due to nostalgia and all that, but spamming for 20 minutes "1 Tank, 1 Healer and 1 DPS" in Dalaran wasn't all that cool. Waiting for 20 minutes for the same tank and healer in order to appear may not sound much better, but at least you can do stuff while you wait.
It was even worse when instead of doing the daily heroic dungeon you wanted to do some other dungeon because you wanted X piece of loot.
The game became less social because of the matchmaking, some sense of community (between people that weren't in your guild). I'll give you that, I was a tank and after a year playing I had a pool of 10-15 healers I asked everytime I wanted to go on a dungeon. I knew more people and I had a really big friend list that got smaller and smaller when thing became more convenient. But Destiny isn't that social to begin with. So this is kind of a hassle.
That sounds like a raid in every single MMO created since WoW
The question is how bosses will be. Raids in MMO have mechanics that wouldn't work on a smaller group (4-5 players). If the bosses don't have any difference aside having their HP doubled, they'll be doing something wrong though.
No, it didn't. I mean, I played WoW before and after matchmaking appeared (in any sense, saw both Dungeon and Raid Finder, dunno about Pandaria additions) and it didn't destroyed anything.
It can sound cool due to nostalgia and all that, but spamming for 20 minutes "1 Tank, 1 Healer and 1 DPS" in Dalaran wasn't all that cool. Waiting for 20 minutes for the same tank and healer in order to appear may not sound much better, but at least you can do stuff while you wait.
It was even worse when instead of doing the daily heroic dungeon you wanted to do some other dungeon because you wanted X piece of loot.
The game became less social because of the matchmaking, some sense of community (between people that weren't in your guild). I'll give you that, I was a tank and after a year playing I had a pool of 10-15 healers I asked everytime I wanted to go on a dungeon. I knew more people and I had a really big friend list that got smaller and smaller when thing became more convenient. But Destiny isn't that social to begin with. So this is kind of a hassle.
FullMetaltech
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Im actually enjoying them so far. They seem to have a good group together and trying some teamwork.
Sho_Nuff82
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You'd rather them bitch about lack of content then? All the people being gated out aren't going to wait around for the next content patch, if there's no monthly fee keeping them tethered, they'll abandon the game.
My only worry is at this rate in a months time everyone might be gone
With the shitload of Games arriving, there is no time any more for Destiny.
AusRoachman
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Didn't say that but once everyone has seen everything the game has to offer they won't be sticking around, with cod and tons if other amazing games a lot of higher levels will probably jump ship.
Give War A Chance
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Haha, I didn't realize this until like 10 deaths in, when I cracked open a Captain with a headshot for the largest damage I've seen from myself so far... that realization was great! However, I had been doing it for a long time and took the night off afterwards, but I immediately understood why they give you so many slots for guns now.The good thing is that the damage modifiers also affects your weapons!
Dealing massive Arc/Void/Solar damage is always fun.
Also, I don't know if ppl noticed but there are specific colors on enemies' shields, each color is weak against a specific elemental damage:
Blue - Arc
Yellow - Solar
Purple - Void
It's wise to have at least one of each type of elemental damage in tour weapons. You'll need in Nightfall and lvl24+ Strikes/Dailies/etc.
You're definitely right about that, always keep one weapon of each type in your inventory...
Arrogant Bastard
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I'm sorry could you elaborate on this?
She never had a chance, did she?
I'm talking a few years before Dalaran
I agree that Destinyt isn't social to begin with, so matchmaking makes more sense here.
It's like they want to evoke that old vanilla wow community feel, but without the tools to create a community.
OccamsLightsaber
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You sound like a Bungie dev.
Arrogant Bastard
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That has been my biggest take away from all this. Why didn't they put 1/4 of this in the strikes?
Lockjaw333
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I think Bungie is a little misguided if they are aiming for this sort of stuff to flesh out the game.
How about special/cool stuff for people who don't have ridiculous amounts of time to play? Level 26 limit? The game has been out a week...
Maybe I'm in the minority, but with a wife and kid and full time job I've played every opportunity I've had and am at level 12. I don't find all this high level limit crap to be fair a week out from release.
This also excludes me from the strikes. I don't really have time to spend 30-40 minutes playing a strike. It would take lots of planning with friends to make that happen.
I guess I'll keep dredging the rinse/repeat story missions and playing some PVP to try to level up. Still blows my mind how much time some of you have to play...I'm jelly.
How about special/cool stuff for people who don't have ridiculous amounts of time to play? Level 26 limit? The game has been out a week...
Maybe I'm in the minority, but with a wife and kid and full time job I've played every opportunity I've had and am at level 12. I don't find all this high level limit crap to be fair a week out from release.
This also excludes me from the strikes. I don't really have time to spend 30-40 minutes playing a strike. It would take lots of planning with friends to make that happen.
I guess I'll keep dredging the rinse/repeat story missions and playing some PVP to try to level up. Still blows my mind how much time some of you have to play...I'm jelly.
Dictator93
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I have been watching this, and this looks pretty horrible. yep.
JimmyRustler
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Well, I guess then this game is simply not for you. You should have known though.
Never start playing a real MMO. Compared to them Destiny is just a quickie.
Blizzard have been quite good at setting up systems to make it reasonably easy at any time to get up to endgame content, with the bottom levels of endgame being doable at pretty much any sane gear level. It's beyond that that you need to start gearing for, and for everything bar heroic, sufficient skill would make more of a difference than gear (and indeed the reverse is true: there are players who I would take over the person who is best-geared in our guild should the choice be available)
The burning question is whether Destiny's endgame is balanced like that in a more long-term outlook. Sure, you might need RNG to make it to endgame within a week, but in a month, is it reasonable to assume that most of the dedicated playerbase has made it there?
Well, you needed to be Attuned, but that's a rather different proposition (For non-WoWers: A short quest chain that was required before you could access the raid in question). And you needed certain people in the group to have sufficient fire res gear to tackle certain bosses. But purely getting *access* wasn't too demanding.
SerTapTap
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Polygon's review is, perhaps surprisingly, a good start on all that's wrong with the game, but is by no means exhaustive. Do not buy it to find out, that's how they win. It is not worth your money.
The good thing is that the damage modifiers also affects your weapons!
Dealing massive Arc/Void/Solar damage is always fun.
Also, I don't know if ppl noticed but there are specific colors on enemies' shields, each color is weak against a specific elemental damage:
Blue - Arc
Yellow - Solar
Purple - Void
It's wise to have at least one of each type of elemental damage in tour weapons. You'll need in Nightfall and lvl24+ Strikes/Dailies/etc.
I have several guns that have the solar option. How do I modify them to do solar damage? I know this is off topic but it's bugged me for a while that there are kinetic and solar options that I cannot modify.
Maintenance
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Pfft, you want an easy game? This is for the hardcore.
Molten Core? Sure. Beyond that, of course not, but Molten Core was very forgiving. Our guild was really shit (didn't get beyond Vael) and even we managed to 20-man Molten Core.
My only worry is at this rate in a months time everyone might be gone
I envy the ones being able to figure efverything out. In a week everone will have watched everything and there is not this feeling of new and unexplored anymore.
I think Stalvan Mistmantle is perhaps the best example of storytelling I recall from the Vanilla game. It's got much better in more recent expansions in general, too. Here is the start of how it's presented in-game.
Don't confuse 'permitting people to ignore the story if they wish' with 'the story isn't worthwhile'. I'm a huge reader of quest text, and I really get wrapped up in some of the storylines.
Polygon is dog shit. They gave TLOU a 7.
AbandonedTrolley
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I get weekends and evenings to play, I've gotten to level 20 quite quickly I feel and decent rare armour, still no legendaries or exotics though
Fuz
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That's completely false. It saved it, more than anything else.
Only reason I get back to it from time to time.
And in any case, you cannot do a multiplayer game without an automatic matchmaking system. Not in this time and age.
Yeah, that's false. If you're talking about doing it in vanilla.
My thoughts exactly. Been grinding for gear since I turned 20. Literally no drops that raise my level yet. My drop luck is horrific.
...so?
Polygon isn't made by one writer and you should actually read the Destiny review before shouting random thoughts
I'm sure I've got a screenshot somewhere. I'll see if I can dig it out when I get home. It was L60, though, and as implied, with gear only from AQ20 at most (plus some Razorgore stuff)
Might possibly have been Onyxia rather than MC. We definitely did underman MC, but not to that scale.
How about we let people form their own opinions before forcing our own onto them.
I'm talking a few years before Dalaran
I agree that Destinyt isn't social to begin with, so matchmaking makes more sense here.
It's like they want to evoke that old vanilla wow community feel, but without the tools to create a community.
I mistaken Dalaran and Shatrath lol. I meant the hub city from BC. That's when I started doing high level content
The "this publication gave this game an X, so FUCK THEM!" reaction is one a lot of people still have, and it's probably not going away. It's a way to talk down the whole publication when it gives a review you disagree with (that Polygon is pretty garbage is an opinion I agree with, but not because they gave TLoU a 7 or whatever).
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JoJo UK
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Well it's lucky they made the decision for us then, so we couldn't choose to either play with friends, randoms or a mixture, isn't it?
QFT. While I see what Bungie is trying to do I think they have gone in the wrong direction, doesn't WoW now have some sort of matchmaking, like raid-lite or something?
TheCanisDirus
Member
Same here. Good old 20. :/
Noisepurge
Member
just use the colors instead of those silly names
its blue weapon vs blue shields, orange vs orange, purple vs purple.
I recommend having either one of each colour as a sniper rifle or plasma rifle to destroy shields in one shot when necessary.
I have a full time job and two young kids, play generally 2-3 hours a night (not always) and have hit level 24 last night.
Good mixture of PvP and strikes with bounties and you can get there fairly quick.
But yeah this is a game that needs friends and a time sink so maybe isn't really a game that would suit your schedule
Read it. Dog. Shit. And the editorial team approve the reviews.
Anyway, this is the raid thread, I should shout random outbursts in the review thread.
The good thing is that the damage modifiers also affects your weapons!
Dealing massive Arc/Void/Solar damage is always fun.
Also, I don't know if ppl noticed but there are specific colors on enemies' shields, each color is weak against a specific elemental damage:
Blue - Arc
Yellow - Solar
Purple - Void
It's wise to have at least one of each type of elemental damage in tour weapons. You'll need in Nightfall and lvl24+ Strikes/Dailies/etc.
is this random on a per-mob basis or do specific mob types have the same vulnarabilities? - e.g. wizards always having yellow shields?
would love some table of shield type per mob so i could equip the proper guns at the beginning of a strike.
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