This isn't true. You don't get voice chat in Matchmaking strikes unless you invite the person to your team (even though they're already on your team), they accept, then they load out of the map and back in, then you can finally talk. Then you need to do that with the other guy.
Destiny's Raid, 'Vault of Glass' is now available to play. Hardest challenge yet.
- Thread starter mocoworm
- Start date
- Status
This isn't true. You don't get voice chat in Matchmaking strikes unless you invite the person to your team (even though they're already on your team), they accept, then they load out of the map and back in, then you can finally talk. Then you need to do that with the other guy.
I watched some streams and the guys playing were complaining the who time. Using words like boring, annoying, stupid, etc. Why would anyone play this?
Ramocalypse
Member
You have to be kidding me....
This would be acceptable if the clans actually meant anything right now. At the moment clans are just a glorified friends list and message board, but from what I can tell there's no way to join up with other clan members. The same process I would go through to get in a game with clan members is the same process I would go through if I wanted 5 people from my basic friends list.
Don't you want all that awesome high end loot? :/
PetriP-TNT
Member
Does anyone, actually, you know, read the OP?
It says that
It says that
NemesisPrime
Banned
Wow seriously? Who at Bungie thought that was a good idea? Or is this a platform problem?
IAmRandom31
Banned
Nope
alright here is now Raids work.
1.) THE FIRETEAM LEADER IS THE CONTROLLER
2.) WHEN FIRETEAM LEADER LEAVES RAID, THE PROGRESS IS SAVED
3.) FIRETEAM LEADER CAN RESTART RAID BACK FROM PREVIOUS SPOT WITH NEW FIRETEAM IF THEY WANT
It is all dependent on the Leader. This is what I understand from what Bungie states about Raids.
It just takes a little effort. Six people really isn't much. I've lead consistent raids of 25 people before, and while it's challenging, it's absolutely possible. If getting six people together to beat your heads against something that requires a whole new level of teamwork that includes problem solving and strategy isn't something you are interested in doing, then don't do it, it's as simple as that. You shouldn't have to do every single piece of content in the game to get enjoyment out of it.
Messofanego
Banned
Only the fireteam leader of the original group has to be the same.
In terms of play time, I'll stick by that statement, yeah. Getting from 26 to 30 will take longer than getting from 1 to 26.
methane47
Member
This is going to get patched before i get home isn't it.
But since this seems to be the majority of effort they put into their pve end game content...
Pop
Member
Good luck finding the gear to just increase one level.
Because odds are, it'll take multiple tries (and many hours), and be even longer if you have to reteach someone that is new to the raid. Easier to have the same group of people come back every time and play.
Not to say it couldn't be done with a bunch of random people, but then everyone will need to stay on long enough to finish it, cause good luck regrouping, especially if you have to rejoin the leader's game to continue on where you left off.
It seems the great raid content they were talking about only 1 percent of there audience will be able to complete.
ZeroMaverick
Member
Yeah, it's true and it is absurdly dumb. The difficulty of communicating with people in this game is absurd. I'm not sure who thought this set up was a good idea, but they were about as wrong as they could get. The ONLY way to use voice chat in the game is if you actively invite someone into your team. It is quite possibly the worst design choice I have ever seen in a socially driven game. It would be like only being able to chat with people on your friends list in WoW.
BlackBanditSho
Member
THIS.
I keep opening up Destiny and despite the reviews, I'm really REALLY enjoying the game. I just get bored quickly because I'm always playing alone and would LOVE to chat with randoms to form bonds as I play. I'm not joining some strange fire team just to talk.
I get it. auto-grouping randoms in some matchmaking program sucks. However, JUST GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHAT WITH RANDOMS DURING THE GAME so we can add them to our personal friends list (by choice), fire teams and clans!!! From those people, I can choose (when we have the time) to take on RAIDS, level up, or do whatever.
I'm in the same boat as Kill37r. NOBODY I know has a current ten console. I have family and responsibilities. I'm happy to get an hour or two at night on Destiny. Going it alone SUCKS. Would love to meet other guys/gals in my situation to shoot the shit, level up a couple of stats, and eventually get to RAID something.
Last night, I was playing on the Moon and really enjoying it, but wishing I had a co-op group to play with. I'm never going to be into the PvP stuff. Bores me silly.
Bungie needs to fix this. Really.
Yes. I'm a broken record. That said, I can already tell from what I've played that I'd enjoy what Destiny a lot - quips from the community aside - if the campaign wasn't forced solo for people in my situation.
methane47
Member
Wasn't there vicinity chat in the beta tho?
PetriP-TNT
Member
The other team is kinda giving up now. Someone said that -2 levels is 40% damage reduction. That's nuts!
TheCanisDirus
Member
This makes sense.
Just play for another 20 hours, then it will really be worth it.
Nope, new friendships will not be earned through war.
on the first day.
My god people the game has only been out a week. Do you think Bungie expects everyone to be able to do this already?
The flip side of that coin is that match making should be included for these events so that those of us who don't want to spend hours coordinating to actually participate have that option. I've had no problem using advanced teamwork with randoms to finish strikes. No idea why this wouldn't be available for raids as well. This is one of the most interesting aspects of the entire game, but it's so difficult to get a game together that a lot of people aren't going to experience it.
Yes?
It is patently insane.
I actually think that that this is a big reason the raid doesn't have matchmaking. It looks like it would be impossible without voice coordination. Also it might be the reason that all the Strike bosses don't actually require any real tactics beyond "don't get shot, deal with adds" since those can be handled on an individual basis pretty easily.
It would've been nice if the higher level Strikes had introduced some more complicated mechanics to prepare us for the raids.
Nope.
I was complaining about the grind in Warframe before Destiny came out, but at least it is a free to play game. Seems to have more variety as well.
Gravy Boat
Member
Maybe you know 5 people who own the game and are always able to commit to playing at the same time as you in spite of their own personal commitments/work schedules, but I don't.
I can't believe how many people are crying about this raid being level 26.
It's an END-GAME RAID. You're not supposed to do it right now, except if you're playing hardcore. Keep playing, farming, shooting things, and eventually you'll reach level 26 and be able to experience this raid.
The game's only been out for 1 week and people expect to do everything.
It's an END-GAME RAID. You're not supposed to do it right now, except if you're playing hardcore. Keep playing, farming, shooting things, and eventually you'll reach level 26 and be able to experience this raid.
The game's only been out for 1 week and people expect to do everything.
For now. I hope that they make the Strike fights more interesting in the future, but that would also require them to put voice support into matchmaking, which obviously needs to be done anyway.
Why is it 26? Why not 30? Maximum end game.
After watching some people play it, it does look fairly disappointing. I was hoping for some fun mechanics like in a real MMO since it's allegedly so involved, but the most involved it gets is really just switching weapons for the situation. Maybe I haven't seen it al yet, but I was hoping for things like platform hopping to get away with a one hit kill.
I may do one in the future to see if I can get the trophies, but it's beginning to look like I'm not missing out at all now.
I may do one in the future to see if I can get the trophies, but it's beginning to look like I'm not missing out at all now.
PetriP-TNT
Member
ARealGamer
Banned
What is the point in no matchmaking?
TheCanisDirus
Member
They are complaining because of Destiny's horrid loot system and the random, sometime futile, path from 20-26. (At least i hope they are b/c you're right, it's END GAME for a reason) Bungie just needs to fix post-cap leveling and drops as far as the bitching issues go. (They have LOADS else to fix as far as the full game goes however)
Ramocalypse
Member
I seriously think their decision to remove chat from strikes for mm is the reason the content is so uninspired/boring. Can't expect people to be able to coordinate for interesting gameplay if they cant even really talk to each other.
I feel like this game was designed for the lowest common denominator, and that bungie has little faith in player social skills.
Watching the stream: Pretty fucking brutal. Just in the 20 minutes I've watched, they've wiped about a dozen times, and are still trying to figure out what's going on.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Was able to solo the lv. 24 Heroic Daily mission when at lv. 24. Was intense as fuck and fun.
Did the Heroic Weekly Strike with another gaffer and someone else. We got to Septic Prime and the other dude disconnected after we died twice.
We ended up finishing without another death.
Tough thing about the Weekly Strike is there is no 2nd life. No respawning. You either get revived by a teammate or not at all. Makes you very careful, very aware of the situation.
Cant wait to gear up a bit more for this Raid!
I REALLY WANT AN EXOTIC WEAPON. Want that hand cannon so damn bad.
Ramocalypse
Member
HA just said the same thing after you quoted me.
- Status