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[Marcel]

Wow. Way to be a dick

I can't think of a better word for someone who does the "I could post this but I won't because the masses can't handle my unique opinion" thing.

 

[Corpekata]

Might want to edit the OP with something regarding why this is surfacing now (investigating claims she hadn't contacted police) from the article because I imagine there's gonna be a lot of "But why now?!?!" conspiracy people here.

 

[Sephzilla]

I can't think of a better word for someone who does the "I could post this but I won't because the masses can't handle my unique opinion" thing.

Or maybe I've seen other GAFfers get eaten alive for even faintly questioning Anita and I'd rather not get pulled into that? Still, I don't reason for you to be a dick about it.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Ahahah what the fuck is even happening anymore? Just...dang, man.



It shouldn't. Nobody's going to assume these assholes represent every man who's ever touched a controller. Crazy assholes are just crazy assholes.

'Crazy' implies that the person behind this bomb threat is acting abnormally

This is normal

 

[Oersted]

Because anti-Anita folk accused her of falsifying her reports of contacting authorities in August after a member of the San Fran Police Dept. said they never had a record or report of her calling/filing a report about being threatened.

Its all about transparency, right?


/rhetoric question obviously

 

[akidnamededdy]

The association is there. You don't see bomb threats when a woman receives an award for novelists, but you do for games.

Outsiders have to wonder, what the fuck is wrong with games? What's wrong with the games industry? What's wrong with gamers?

Ehhh, there was that guy who shot Reagan because a movie told him to but nobody blamed moviegoers (I think?)

I'd like to think people on the outside of all this have better sense than to wonder "what's up with those game playing folks" because a few messed up individuals made bomb threats or intimidated an industry critic for being a woman.

I mean, I'd LIKE to think that.

'Crazy' implies that the person behind this bomb threat is acting abnormally

This is normal

I uh...don't follow you. What's normal?

 

[DUFFMCWALIN]

Or maybe I've seen other GAFfers get eaten alive for even faintly questioning Anita and I'd rather not get pulled into that? Still, I don't reason for you to be a dick about it.

No one is above question or reproach but what is there even to be suspicious of here?

edit: Yes your original post was pretty dickish and labeled everyone as a hive mind.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

Can we stop skirting around the fact that these people are legitimately terrorists now?

 

[Sephzilla]

No one is above question or reproach but what is there even to be suspicious of here?

edit: Yes your original post was pretty dickish and labeled everyone as a hive mind.

Well then I guess I apologize. I didn't intend for it to come off that way.

 

[hipbabboom]

What of idiots. I wan to believe these are shitty kids doing this but I'm sure its probably adults

Spoiler

(being shitty children)

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[Camp Lo]

"Game characters should represent women well."

-receives threats-

"Told you so!"

???????

Yeah, made me double take as well.

 

[Orayn]

Or maybe I've seen other GAFfers get eaten alive for even faintly questioning Anita and I'd rather not get pulled into that? Still, I don't reason for you to be a dick about it.

You have a right to ask questions, but I think there are some lines of questioning that deserve a certain level of scrutiny. It's easy for questions to demonstrate a completely unreasonable level of suspicion, include an unstated premise or conclusion, or make some other attempt to elicit a specific answer. There's a reason "Just Asking Questions" lead to people coining the phrase "JAQing off."

 

[speculawyer]

What the hell?

If you don't like what she has to say then just ignore her. It's not like she's got control of anything . . . she's just expressing an opinion.

 

[BHK3]

When I read this, I'm wondering:
"When did videogames became more than games made for fun ?"

Seriously. It seems like every month something indie, anita, zoe quinn or god knows what else throws a smart bomb into the gaming community and everyone flips the fuck out...

 

[Night Hunter]

What the fuck is wrong with some people?

 

[MisterHero]

I wish we could find the specific people responsible just so we can move past generalizing gamers. These perpetrators are psychopaths and any excuses they have are irrelevant to the arguments that decent people make.

 

[Sword Familiar]

She probably sent the e-mails herself.

*puts on tin foil hat*

 

[sfz]

'Crazy' implies that the person behind this bomb threat is acting abnormally

This is normal

You think a bomb threat is normal? Acceptable behavior? Nobody on any side of any issue is giving the guy who sent the threat a pat on the back. Not Gamergate, not /v/, nobody. The threat was not indicative of anybody or anything in my eyes.

Can we stop skirting around the fact that these people are legitimately terrorists now?

"This Person." Literally ONE person. Not a leader of a group of misogynistic rapists and murderers. One psychopath who takes things too seriously does not mean that anybody who criticizes Anita is a terrorist.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Ehhh, there was that guy who shot Reagan because a movie told him to but nobody blamed moviegoers (I think?)

I'd like to think people on the outside of all this have better sense than to wonder "what's up with those game playing folks" because a few messed up individuals made bomb threats or intimidated an industry critic for being a woman.

I mean, I'd LIKE to think that.



I uh...don't follow you. What's normal?

Using threats of violence, real or fake, to scare people

 

[meltingparappa]

At what point do the FBI get involved with a pattern of death threats culminating in bomb threats?

 

[L Thammy]

I uh...don't follow you. What's normal?

He's being somewhat poetic. Using threats to force your agenda has become so common or are so regular for these individuals that we should not be considering them abnormal. That's what he's saying.

 

[Nanashrew]

I uh...don't follow you. What's normal?

It's normal in this industry. And it's the saddest thing.

Coming from my perspective with depression I see things differently than most. A person who is angry may get mislabeled as passionate and just normal and a threat may seem like it's gone a "tad" overboard but you know, still "normal" real or fake. Depression mostly gets you snarky remarks or a slap in the face to "snap out of it" and "get better"

 

[mrlion]

Its getting out of hand. These are petty disagreements that turn into bomb threats for what? What are you even trying to say? Everyone and anyone has the right to express their opinions whether you disagree or not.

 

[libregkd]

"This Person." Literally ONE person. Not a leader of a group of misogynistic rapists and murderers. One psychopath who takes things too seriously does not mean that anybody who criticizes Anita is a terrorist.

No one said that anyone who criticizes Anita is a terrorist.

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well. Kotaku and friends have a lot of influence on what games get popular and well-known, so if Anita doesn't like a game, that's basically a death sentence. She kind of has some power.
At the very least, reviews will include a paragraph about misogyny, and scores will he knocked down a point or two.

Okay this has gotten funny. What proof do you have that Anita has such an iron grip on game coverage that if she doesn't like something, it won't be covered?

 

[sfz]

What the hell?

If you don't like what she has to say then just ignore her. It's not like she's got control of anything . . . she's just expressing an opinion.

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well.
Those who disagree with Anita's views are dismissed as neckbeards, manbabies, and misogynists.

Edited this post to remove my paranoid misinformation about Anita's power.

 

[Opinionatedfish]

Was there an arrest?

 

[sfz]

No one said that anyone who criticizes Anita is a terrorist.

Who was "these people" referring to? I'll tell you: Nobody, in both specific and general terms, but the dude who made the threat.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well. Kotaku and friends have a lot of influence on what games get popular and well-known, so if Anita doesn't like a game, that's basically a death sentence. She kind of has some power.
At the very least, reviews will include a paragraph about misogyny, and scores will he knocked down a point or two.

I think you have an incredibly skewed view of how much power and influence Anita Sarkeesian holds.

 

[Takamura-San]

"This Person." Literally ONE person. Not a leader of a group of misogynistic rapists and murderers. One psychopath who takes things too seriously does not mean that anybody who criticizes Anita is a terrorist.

1. We dont know how many people were involved in this. Technically a person sent the email, but it may have been planed by more than one.

2. I dont think he implied that every that criticizes her is capable of this.

These news are really hard to read.

 

[akidnamededdy]

It's normal in this industry. And it's the saddest thing.

Coming from my perspective with depression I see things differently than most. A person who is angry may get mislabeled as passionate and just normal and a threat may seem like it's gone a "tad" overboard but you know, still "normal" real or fake. Depression mostly gets you snarky remarks or a slap in the face to "snap out of it" and "get better"

I guess I get it now but uh did I fall asleep and miss the part where bomb threats at award shows became normal for the gaming industry?

 

[Corpekata]

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well. Kotaku and friends have a lot of influence on what games get popular and well-known, so if Anita doesn't like a game, that's basically a death sentence. She kind of has some power.
At the very least, reviews will include a paragraph about misogyny, and scores will he knocked down a point or two.

Really?

She tends to mention games months, if not years after release. What game has she not liked that's been given a death sentence?

 

[Orayn]

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well. Kotaku and friends have a lot of influence on what games get popular and well-known, so if Anita doesn't like a game, that's basically a death sentence. She kind of has some power.
At the very least, reviews will include a paragraph about misogyny, and scores will he knocked down a point or two.

You mean humans have opinions and stances that influence their behavior, even journalists? This is some mind-blowing shit, tell me more.

 

[A Link to the Past]

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well. Kotaku and friends have a lot of influence on what games get popular and well-known, so if Anita doesn't like a game, that's basically a death sentence. She kind of has some power.
At the very least, reviews will include a paragraph about misogyny, and scores will he knocked down a point or two.

Are you quite mad?

 

[Alchemy]

What the hell?

If you don't like what she has to say then just ignore her. It's not like she's got control of anything . . . she's just expressing an opinion.

This. I haven't really paid attention to her once I realized that while she makes a lot of valid points and critics, she has a tendency to reach for her evidence. So I just kind of ignored her stuff for the most part.

But stuff like these threats just reinforce that the industry does need to change, both producers and consumers, which validates her work.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well. Kotaku and friends have a lot of influence on what games get popular and well-known, so if Anita doesn't like a game, that's basically a death sentence. She kind of has some power.
At the very least, reviews will include a paragraph about misogyny, and scores will he knocked down a point or two.

I find the bolded hard to believe. Does she get to play games before professional reviewers? What games do you think have fallen victim to her "death sentence"?

 

[libregkd]

Who was "these people" referring to? I'll tell you: Nobody, in both specific and general terms, but the dude who made the threat.

It's referring to any number of people that have made death threats against her. You do know that this bomb threat hasn't been the only thing she has received, right?

 

[Astro Racer]

Makes me embarrassed to be a male associated with this industry.

I never understood comments like this.

Why do these few morons represent all males in the industry?

 

[A Link to the Past]

I guess I get it now but uh did I fall asleep and miss the part where bomb threats at award shows became normal for the gaming industry?

It doesn't have to be a bomb threat, it can also be a general murder or rape threat

 

[Holographix]

Uh. A critic of gaming at a gaming convention, a threat wanting her gaming related award rescinded. And it's a stretch to assume they're a gamer?

Yes, I won't make a statement such as "such an embarrassment to the gaming community" when I can't really prove it. Sure she plays games and does a video series about tropes in videogames, but isn't that just a small part of her work? Whoever made the threat could have easily been an anti-feminist madman who follows her every move.

 

[Nanashrew]

I guess I get it now but uh did I fall asleep and miss the part where bomb threats at award shows became normal for the gaming industry?

None of it is really normal. There used to be a tumblr that cataloged all the hateful comments and death threats made to developers but was taken down by tumblr I believe. There were a lot directed to a CoD developer over nerfing the rifle.

 

[DNAbro]

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well. Kotaku and friends have a lot of influence on what games get popular and well-known, so if Anita doesn't like a game, that's basically a death sentence. She kind of has some power.
At the very least, reviews will include a paragraph about misogyny, and scores will he knocked down a point or two.

Do people actually believe this? It's the same stuff with Zoe Quinn, that she apparently had some amazing control over people which is just silly.

 

[Orayn]

At what point do the FBI get involved with a pattern of death threats culminating in bomb threats?

They got involved with the most recent ones in August/September and took over the case, which is why SFPD didn't have anything to give people who came asking for information. The goobers, of course, took this to mean that she hadn't contacted police about recent threads and was making them up for attention or some such nonsense.

 

[JumpJeff84]

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

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[Jamix012]

What the flying fuck. Seriously this is insane. If you disagree with someone why can't you just have a civil discussion with their followers. Hell, go ahead and have a heated debate if you need, but a bomb threat and death threats? I have no words, what an embarrassment to our community.

 

[Die Squirrel Die]

I think you have an incredibly skewed view of how much power and influence Anita Sarkeesian holds.

I think you need to realise what's really going on here. In fact I have obtained secret recordings of the last time Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn got together. Wake up people.

Spoiler

On a serious note, what are the chances that the people responsible get the book thrown at them, even if they are hoaxes or empty threats its such a sick thing. At the very least if the perpetrators get raked over the coals it might stem anymore idiots from doing something similar, or worse.

 

[Archurro]

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well. Kotaku and friends have a lot of influence on what games get popular and well-known, so if Anita doesn't like a game, that's basically a death sentence. She kind of has some power.
At the very least, reviews will include a paragraph about misogyny, and scores will he knocked down a point or two.

Hahaha, what?

All her videos show games that have been out for a couple of years, I doubt her videos are reducing their sales by any margin. Also companies like Activision, EA could give less of a shit what she has to say, 99% of their mainstream game market have and never will hear of her.

 

[A Link to the Past]

What the flying fuck. Seriously this is insane. If you disagree with someone why can't you just have a civil discussion with their followers. Hell, go ahead and have a heated debate if you need, but a bomb threat and death threats? I have no words, what an embarrassment to our community.

Because the group that the individual comes from doesn't want to talk to her, they want her to go away. Stupid people very often fear the idea of engaging with someone on a subject beyond their intelligence, so they invent ways for the discussion or the other person to be faulty!

 

[Haunted]

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well. Kotaku and friends have a lot of influence on what games get popular and well-known, so if Anita doesn't like a game, that's basically a death sentence. She kind of has some power.
At the very least, reviews will include a paragraph about misogyny, and scores will he knocked down a point or two.

You're insane if you actually believe this.

 

[Sportbilly]

Do people actually believe this? It's the same stuff with Zoe Quinn, that she apparently had some amazing control over people which is just silly.

FFS, she's female and therefore controls everything. WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED???

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well. Kotaku and friends have a lot of influence on what games get popular and well-known, so if Anita doesn't like a game, that's basically a death sentence. She kind of has some power.
At the very least, reviews will include a paragraph about misogyny, and scores will he knocked down a point or two.

What? there's no way this is true.