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[fernoca]

You say that like it's equivalent to receiving death and bomb threats.

Nope. I'm talking about the assumptions around who. And how many tie this, to the term "gamers", when thanks to anonimity; could be "anyone". And how disappointingly, "anyone" is used to imply "a white, male, single gamer from the US".

Don't know were I said that those treats were equivalent.

 

[Oersted]

So...developers should stop making games that appeal to the people who largely buy games?

I can agree with less harassment. But mean tweets are harmless. How many times has Anita actually been raped or killed? Cowards from the Internet will always exist. Ignoring and reporting is the best way of dealing with them. Not retweeting them for sympathy points.

1. Said absolutely noone. What are you even going for?

2. People are most often not killed more than once. Crazy how that works. And what are you going for?

3. Where are you drawing the line between mean tweets and harassment? And why don´t you let her, the victim, draw the line? Let her decide how to handle it? And again, what are you even going for?

Sorry about my baseless claims. I redacted them from the post and I feel quite stupid for making them.

But you should see her Twitter followers. They're crazy.

How many are crazy? How do they show their craziness? Why is Sarkeesian responsible for them? Why are you bringing this up?

 

[Vylash]

What are they doing that is so crazy?

Agreeing with her

 

[Wellscha]

Someone brought up the point of accusing people of being a specific "type", so why not?

On the other side of the coin, wasn't there also a thing that showed Reddit's MRA page to be predominantly white?

That's bad taste, it's like blaming an extremist Muslim for an explosion on mainland USA, whether it happened intentionally or not.

 

[L Thammy]

Sorry about my baseless claims. I redacted them from the post and I feel quite stupid for making them.

But you should see her Twitter followers. They're crazy.

I think that's something that you see with any celebrity. Even in the thread where the Parappa the Rapper guy stole a GAFer's money, there were hardcore fanboys defending him too.

 

[GillianSeed79]

So...developers should stop making games that appeal to the people who largely buy games?

You mean women, you know the people who buy more games then men? But, regardless of that, no one is asking to suddenly replace every bald space marine with with, gasp, a female main character. Nobody is asking to take away anyone's games. At worst some people are asking developers to be a little more sensitive to how women are portrayed in video games and maybe give people the option, say, in a mp game or a game with a character creator, to be able to choose their gender.

I can agree with less harassment. But mean tweets are harmless. How many times has Anita actually been raped or killed? Cowards from the Internet will always exist. Ignoring and reporting is the best way of dealing with them. Not retweeting them for sympathy points.

That there are assholes on the internet isn't an excuse for disgusting and illegal behavior. You can't just threaten to rape or murder someone. It's not only gross, it's illegal. Not to mention, I'm pretty sure "mean tweets" have already contributed to a number of people leaving the industry and the said target of this bomb threat fleeing her home.

 

[shacklesmcgee]

So...developers should stop making games that appeal to the people who largely buy games?

I can agree with less harassment. But mean tweets are harmless. How many times has Anita actually been raped or killed? Cowards from the Internet will always exist. Ignoring and reporting is the best way of dealing with them. Not retweeting them for sympathy points.

Ahhh nice, and you've received hundreds of death and rape threats and have come to this conclusion?

 

[Corpekata]

Jack Thompson was an activist against game violence, much like Sarkeesian, and he had WAAAY more death threats than her (Which people didn't seem to have a problem with). So it's not really a gender thing. Anyone can get death threats.

Maybe this has less to do with not having a problem with it and more to do with it not being well known? He was prominent like a decade ago, long before social media and the days of up to the minute reporting on stuff like this. Not exactly a relevant comparison.

 

[sfz]

Are you serious? Threats of violence and rape are harmless? The waves of shit that gets sent her way on a daily basis is completely disgusting

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

 

[charsace]

Bomb Threats and Swatting bullshit is what happens when socially awkward people who are mad at everyone do what they think is revenge. They think this type of shit is funny. Pathetic and confirms what people think about people who play games. Just a bunch of fucking socially awkward man children that are scared to leave the house and live life.

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

She shouldn't be subjected to this type of bullshit. And the people sending these threats are thinking these things so there is a chance that one of them could decide to act on the things they think. It only takes one random crazy fuck to act.

 

[Foggy]

The fuck?!

 

[IcyStorm]

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

Why should she have to stop reading her Twitter mentions when OTHER people are choosing to harass her and threaten her? Don't make it sound like she's causing this.

 

[sfz]

You mean women, you know the people who buy more games then men?

Stop right there. When it comes to "serious" gaming as opposed to Candy Crush, men are still the majority.

 

[Fencedude]

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

How about bomb threats?

 

[HK-47]

She has a hella lot of followers with religious levels of devotion, and game journalists subscribe to her views as gospel as well.
Those who disagree with Anita's views are dismissed as neckbeards, manbabies, and misogynists.

Edited this post to remove my paranoid misinformation about Anita's power.

Wooooow

 

[Deleted member 126221]

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

Oh, I'm sure you'd love to receive numerous death threats. Hey, no big deal! Don't read them, and that's it! Why didn't she simply think of this?

 

[Orayn]

Stop right there. When it comes to "serious" gaming as opposed to Candy Crush, men are still the majority.

Who cares whether or not the games are "serious?" They still make money. Plenty of the "non-serious" ones make a quite a bit, in fact.

 

[John Harker]

I hope this thread stays civil and people who aren't get the boot.

I was there at GDC. Think about that for a minute. How terrifying.

 

[Gustav]

Who are these people? I don't understand. What are they trying to achieve? This is super puzzling to me.

 

[Vylash]

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

Harassment is a very serious issue and burying your head in the sand and pretending like it's not happening is essentially telling these scumbags that it's okay, harassment in all forms needs to be called out, saying "she should ignore it" is very close minded and ignorant

 

[Cat Party]

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

So what you're saying is that it's her fault she keeps getting harassed because she doesn't ignore it. Ok, pal.

 

[eyeless]

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

what is wrong with you

 

[JumpJeff84]

So...developers should stop making games that appeal to the people who largely buy games?

I can agree with less harassment. But mean tweets are harmless. How many times has Anita actually been raped or killed? Cowards from the Internet will always exist. Ignoring and reporting is the best way of dealing with them. Not retweeting them for sympathy points.

Well, seeing as none of us really know Anita or what she's gone through in her life, we can't really say with any authority whether or not she's been a victim of sexual assault ever. But I think we can pretty much say with authority that she's been killed exactly zero times. That's the thing about being killed- it can only happen to you once. Kind of like measles.

 

[Stallion Dan]

Fucking lunatics. Makes me embarrassed to be a male associated with this industry.

Because it couldn't be a woman, right?

 

[sonikokaruto]

anonymous email is as anonymous as trying to be anonymous on the internet

 

[libregkd]

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

Why are you blaming Anita for all the rape and death threats she receives? How is it her fault at all?

 

[Dr. Black Jack]

Less than an hour for this thread to turn from "assholes terrorize innocent people with fake bomb threats" to "I don't care how many times I have to quote you, I MUST PREVAIL!"

good work everyone

 

[Aureon]

Who the hell issues a bomb threat for not agreeing on one of the most consequenceless awards of all time?
Saint god.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Jack Thompson was an activist against game violence, much like Sarkeesian, and he had WAAAY more death threats than her (Which people didn't seem to have a problem with). So it's not really a gender thing. Anyone can get death threats.

Jack Thompson was actively attempting to criminalize video games. He's also in a position of power where he at the time could realistically harm the industry.

 

[Eidan]

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

Man, the longer you stay in this thread the more revolting your comments seem to become.

 

[Curufinwe]

Jack Thompson was an activist against game violence, much like Sarkeesian, and he had WAAAY more death threats than her (Which people didn't seem to have a problem with). So it's not really a gender thing. Anyone can get death threats.

Also Adam Orth.

 

[axisofweevils]

Sigh...
What I find most ridiculous about this is that these stunts ensure that Anita & co will gain more attention and publicity - presumably the exact opposite of what these "gamers" actually want.

 

[Nekofrog]

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

Yep, because some maladjusted gamers are constantly threatening to rape, murder, and destroy her life and the lives of her family, SHE should be the one to stop utilizing Twitter.

Oh and you're wrong. There is a way to stop it. It's called being a decent human being on the internet and treating people like people. And that's the issue here; these gamers (and yes they are gamers, anyone trying to deflect it away from that word needs to reevaluate) are taking their hobby so seriously that anyone who dare critique the status quo in even a harmless manner is sub human to them.

 

[Curufinwe]

Jack Thompson was actively attempting to criminalize video games. He's also in a position of power where he at the time could realistically harm the industry.

That didn't make the death threats he received OK.

 

[Oersted]

Yes. Harmless and impossible to prevent.
If you think about it, if she just stopped scrolling through her mentions on Twitter, she wouldn't ever have to see any harassment. And since it didn't get noticed, it would eventually slow and stop! Maybe that's an optimistic hope, but she constantly feeds it by saying how hard it is for her, and how she will never give in. If I hated Anita, tweets like that would make me madder than ever.

1. Let the authorities decide this, like they did in this very case.

2. How do you know how she sees her harassment? Why do you bring up Twitter threats in a thread about a mail which GDC Awards received?

3. Are you sure about the if? You constantly critize Sarkeesian in this thread, which is tasteless, to put it mildly.

 

[Mr-Joker]

Okay this is getting stupid now and is making us sane and sensible gamers look bad.

I am just worried that someone crazy and stupid enough will actually go beyond threatening and actually do it.

What the hell? What harm has she done that makes people do this? Jesus Christ.

They believe that Anita is ruining vidya gamez and other nonsense like that.

I mean I disagree with Anita buuut she does raises some interesting point and made me think about how I view woman and write women characters.

She turned me into a newt!

Spoiler

...I got better...

Was there any kissing involved? ;p

 

[Deleted member 126221]

Stop right there. When it comes to "serious" gaming as opposed to Candy Crush, men are still the majority.

1. Serious gaming does not mean what you think it means. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serious_game

2. The game you play are somehow more "serious" than the games you don't like, why is that? And why should "less serious" games be left out of the equation?

3. Do you realize you are debating this in a thread about someone who received a bomb threat?

 

[sonikokaruto]

you know what, i'm starting to think that all of this misogyny and hatred and everything against female gamer is just another plot devised by them, to put us against each other

u_u

 

[Corpekata]

you know what, i'm starting to think that all of this misogyny and hatred and everything against female gamer is just another plot devised by them, to put us against each other

u_u

Man, it feels weird not knowing if comments like these are sarcastic these days, that's how bad the conspiracy theories get.

 

[Deleted member 126221]

Because it couldn't be a woman, right?

Gee, I wonder what the probabilities are.

 

[Averon]

Jack Thompson was actively attempting to criminalize video games. He's also in a position of power where he at the time could realistically harm the industry.

So it was OK for him to receive death threats? That's what I'm reading from your post. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[MrBadger]

This kind of stuff is ridiculous. Nobody should take online threats from edgy teenagers seriously but there's always that scary thought that someone crazy enough might actually go through with a threat like that. It's unfortunate that there isn't really a way to stop anonymous assholes online.

They believe that Anita is ruining vidya gamez and other nonsense like that.

I mean I disagree with Anita buuut she does raises some interesting point and made me think about how I view woman and write women characters.

I'm not a fan of the content she puts out, but I do think it's good that she's started the discussion on the roles on women in video games. So I suppose I could say I'm in the same boat.

 

[snoopeasystreet]

If for any reason in your life, you get to a point where you're sending someone a death threat, you've gone too far and should probably seek help from someone.

 

[charsace]

Because it couldn't be a woman, right?

lol if you think this is a woman. Women generally don't do this type of thing. This type of aggressive shit is almost always done by men.

 

[Death Metalist]

I'm shocked and disgusted.

WTF? Maybe Adam Sessler wasn't far off when he was comparing gamers to terrorists.

Spoiler

Problem is he didn't state some but instead compared everyone.

 

[A Link to the Past]

So it was OK for him to receive death threats? That's what I'm reading from your post. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Anita is a woman, therefore threats

Jack Thompson is a powerful attorney factually trying to destroy M-rated video games, therefore threats.

 

[-tetsuo-]

No, but she would've influenced the games media so that they gave it bad reviews and--WAIT A MINUTE

 

[jersoc]

It proves the more general point that "The gaming industry has issues with women"

what? how do you come to that conclusion? this is fucking right up there with jack thompson. did you send this threat? or make any threats yourself? how can you believe this stupid generalization if you haven't done anything of the like yourself?

this is a stupid person or people doing stupid ass things. nothing more or less.

 

[Orayn]

Man, it feels weird not knowing if comments like these are sarcastic these days, that's how bad the conspiracy theories get.

Gotta admit, it makes a pretty slick (though logically unsound) strategy for the GG people. Any time one of them gets out of line, it was actually just their enemies trying to make them look bad. All evidence against their narrative is actually more evidence in favor of it, you see.

 

[Sami+]

Anita is a fucking hero for standing by her beliefs and fighting for them in spite of all of this bullshit.

I don't care who or what makes "gamers" look bad. I don't care what label these vile, evil, low-life, spineless pieces of trash use for themselves. That's irrelevant. Terrorism is terrorism, and I hope whoever sent that letter is brought to justice.