Nvidia GTX 980/970 3DMark Scores Leaked- from Videocardz.com

ThoseDeafMutes said:
I've had Gigabyte stuff lately, 560 and then 780. I think it was Leadtek before that, a 7600.

What brands are well respected?
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It depends on who you ask. I'm sure anyone had a bad experience with the best brands around. As for myself I've owned Zotac, MSI, ASUS, and Gigabyte Nvidia cards and I never had any issues except when my Zotac 470 overheated.
I really love MSI's Twin Frozr cooling, it's very quiet and efficient.

If I had to buy a 970 I'd go for MSI.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
I've had Gigabyte stuff lately, 560 and then 780. I think it was Leadtek before that, a 7600.

What brands are well respected?
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I've had a reference EVGA GTX680 from launch day and it's still running like a dream. Wouldn't know much about other brands, majority of my cards before this one were AMD GPU's (And I had issue upon issue upon issue, no matter the brand, hence the swap).

I don't really think there's anything overly special about any brand, as long as you stick to the "Generally" well respected ones (I personally wouldn't go near your Gainward's or Powercolor's but that's just me)... Apparently EVGA's customer support and RMA/Warranty policies are really good, but I never had to deal with any of that, but of course you do pay a little premium for EVGA cards.
 
I was looking at benches last night for 780 ti. Asus Twin Frozr, EVGA , and Gigabyte Windforce all have negligible differences between heat and noise (non-reference designs).
 
Daverid said:
I've had a reference EVGA GTX680 from launch day and it's still running like a dream. Wouldn't know much about other brands, majority of my cards before this one were AMD GPU's (And I had issue upon issue upon issue, no matter the brand, hence the swap).

I don't really think there's anything overly special about any brand, as long as you stick to the "Generally" well respected ones (I personally wouldn't go near your Gainward's or Powercolor's but that's just me)... Apparently EVGA's customer support and RMA/Warranty policies are really good, but I never had to deal with any of that, but of course you do pay a little premium for EVGA cards.
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I had a small issue with my EVGA GTX 680 and they shipped me out a new one with next day shipping at no cost at all. Cant beat that kind of service.
 
Xyber said:
Compute performance doesn't help gaming at all (from what I understand), so unless you have specific need for a high compute card it really doesn't matter.



At least AMD lets you pick your 3 free games from a fairly big list.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get Borderlands (Woo...) with the cards now, if we get any games at all.
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Compute can help gaming considerably. Object physics, Tress FX. the devs have to want to put in a little more work to take advantage of it.
 
Contemplating between getting a 980 to upgrade my 780 to drive my 2560x1440 IPS panel or waiting until I get a better monitor (ideally 4K or 3440x1440 with G-sync) and upgrading then...

Probably gonna wait. I really want a G-sync monitor, but I don't want a side-grade in resolution.
 
Seanspeed said:
I was told that AMD just cares more about us.
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Who ever claimed this? Seriously?
The 7970 release at 550+ euros showed very clearly that amd is just as awful as nvidia when it comes to pricing if they have the edge hardware wise even for a few months.

If there was ever a monopoly they would fuck us just as hard as nvidia would

Kezen said:
980 and 970 performance benchmarks :
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-maxwell-geforce-gtx-980-geforce-gtx-970-performance-numbers-leaked-gtx-980-15-faster-r9-290x-gtx-970-10-faster-r9-290/

Impressive to say the least.
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190 watt total system power consumption in 3d mark is really nice, those temps are good too.
 
Dictator93 said:
That is the interesting part given these cards' thermals and tdp. I can imagine anotehr 20% even, which would be quite the amount.
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Can't really judge how good they can overclock until we see some results with an aftermarket cooler though. The 980 runs almost ~15 degrees hotter than 970 because of the cooler.

But performance wise, it's looking very nice right now. Too bad it seems the price will be pretty high. =/
 
I'll be moving from my SLI 780Ti setup to an SLI 980 setup. Performance per watt improvements alone make the switch worthwhile for me.
 
Kezen said:
That's right. If those results are true then holy crap. Maxwell is just unparalleled in the perf/watt department.
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Yeah, those would be really impressive architectural improvements.

Almost too impressive - how can you outperform another chip while only having ~2/3 of the memory bandwidth and power consumption, on the same process?
 
Durante said:
Yeah, those would be really impressive architectural improvements.

Almost too impressive - how can you outperform another chip while only having ~2/3 of the memory bandwidth and power consumption, on the same process?
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Yeah.


I'm sure AndyBNV is reading this and itching as fuck to get his article / thoughts out lol
 
Durante said:
Yeah, those would be really impressive architectural improvements.
Almost too impressive - how can you outperform another chip while only having ~2/3 of the memory bandwidth and power consumption, on the same process?
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Nvidia were not kidding when they claimed Maxwell would be much more efficient than Kepler.

Now...Now close your eyes and imagine what a 250w Maxwell GPU on 20nm could do.
The world isn't quite ready for this, is it ?
 
Smokey said:
The power numbers are very impressive and 15% over 780Ti in a midrange Maxwell chip is pretty decent. If anything this how's that when the big dog Max releases we're going to see a really nice leap.

Hype kind of rising now.
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It really is looking like a great card. Those power numbers aren't going to be a matter of concern for some people (neither will decibels), but they're an important thing that usually get overlooked.

So perhaps 15% of a power bump over a 780Ti is a bit disappointing if you're looking for the next big jump forwards, but at a possibly cheaper price and using less power... well. That's impressive.

And for any confusion, the 970 that uses more power and runs cooler than the 980 in the leaked benchmarks is not using the stock cooler, so it actually makes fine sense that it would use more power and be cooler. No mysteries there.
 
plagiarize said:
And for any confusion, the 970 that uses more power and runs cooler than the 980 in the leaked benchmarks is not using the stock cooler, so it actually makes fine sense that it would use more power and be cooler. No mysteries there.
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Even more importantly, it appears to be using a higher voltage (except in Furmark), which explains the power usage.
 
Since I was an OG Titan and Titan Black buyer.. I have been conditioned to think hey...$500 or so sounds really good! For $1500 I could have a higher efficiency setup with better performance vs my $3000 Titan Black setup.

970 even more ridiculous if it's really $329.

I'm not sure if I'm getting more hyped for these cards or the bigger Maxwell after seeing those benches.
 
Faith said:
I thought they will skip it and go straight to 16nm in 2016?
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That's the word on the street. I'd say they can take their time, the cards available right now are plenty sufficient. Only AMD going all out would force Nvidia to reassess their line-up.
In addition to that you'll notice that there is quite a gap between the 970 and 980...I'd say enough to fit one more sku between.

Nvidia will milk Maxwell as much as they did with Kepler.
 
Damn $299-$349 is great looks like that I'll be getting that. But I'm pretty lost with this stuff, what do you get with the extra $30-$50 on the custom GPUs? Better coolers?
 
Durante said:
Yeah, those would be really impressive architectural improvements.

Almost too impressive - how can you outperform another chip while only having ~2/3 of the memory bandwidth and power consumption, on the same process?
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Well the benchmarks show that the performance gap between 980 and 780ti closes at higher resolutions, so that probably accounts for the memory bandwidth difference kicking in

Kezen said:
Nvidia were not kidding when they claimed Maxwell would be much more efficient than Kepler.

Now...Now close your eyes and imagine what a 250w Maxwell GPU on 20nm could do.
The world isn't quite ready for this, is it ?
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I just hope we don't have to wait till 2016 or 2017 to see that gpu

plagiarize said:
It really is looking like a great card. Those power numbers aren't going to be a matter of concern for some people (neither will decibels), but they're an important thing that usually get overlooked.

So perhaps 15% of a power bump over a 780Ti is a bit disappointing if you're looking for the next big jump forwards, but at a possibly cheaper price and using less power... well. That's impressive.

And for any confusion, the 970 that uses more power and runs cooler than the 980 in the leaked benchmarks is not using the stock cooler, so it actually makes fine sense that it would use more power and be cooler. No mysteries there.
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As a wise person said earlier in this thread 'there's no such thing as a bad card, as long as the price is right'
 
Hindl said:
Damn $299-$349 is great looks like that I'll be getting that. But I'm pretty lost with this stuff, what do you get with the extra $30-$50 on the custom GPUs? Better coolers?
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yeah i think so. the 980 is the reference model and the temps on that are pretty high. Apparently the 970 is nonrefernce models and the temps on that are insanely low on full load. which makes sense with the lower tdp.
 
Hindl said:
Damn $299-$349 is great looks like that I'll be getting that. But I'm pretty lost with this stuff, what do you get with the extra $30-$50 on the custom GPUs? Better coolers?
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Better cooler means lower temps, lower temps means less fan noise.

Faith said:
What does higher resolution even mean? Is 2560x1080 already problematic?
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2560x1440p*

And that's quite a bit more pixels than 1080p.
 
Faith said:
What does higher resolution even mean? Is 2560x1080 already problematic?
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As per usual that depends where you draw the line. If you want max settings and 60fps at 1440p in the most demanding games - present and future - then a 980 won't cut it.
 
According to the article the power draws on the 970 and 980 go way beyond the 148W and 165-175w that seem to be the final set numbers.

Is this because of the stress tests and benchmarks they are running? Will regular gaming draw that much power?

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how quickly do the top cards usually sell out after launch? i want to get the 980, but i won't be able to buy it until two weeks from now...
 
Kezen said:
980 and 970 performance benchmarks :
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-maxwell-geforce-gtx-980-geforce-gtx-970-performance-numbers-leaked-gtx-980-15-faster-r9-290x-gtx-970-10-faster-r9-290/

Impressive to say the least.
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They're comparing the 970 to the 780 GHz Edition specifically (yay, my card) and the 970 despite a ~150 MHz clock advantage is getting its ass handed to it by the 780 by 15/16% in 2560x1600 Batman and Heaven benchmarks. That is impressive... impressively weak.
 
So, at least something good seems to be coming out of this:

The 970 TDP/temperatures fit my silent PC-build pretty much perfectly. That means I'll get a faster card (than my current 660 Ti) without increasing temps and noise.

Still not happy about the GPU market in general, it's almost depressing.. But yeah..
 
2002whitegt said:
According to the article the power draws on the 970 and 980 go way beyond the 148W and 165-175w that seem to be the final set numbers.

Is this because of the stress tests and benchmarks they are running? Will regular gaming draw that much power?

http://cdn3.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-980-and-GTX-970-Power-Consumption-Total-System-573x1200.png[IMG][/QUOTE]

That's total system consumption and not just the GPU.
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