First iPhone 6/6 Plus Reviews

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Completely agree.

this is the argument with the wife.. get a phone that's a phone and a tablet that's a tablet.. not one device that is too big to be convenient as a phone and too small to be a decent tablet.

I mean if someone was adamantly opposed to getting a tablet I guess..
 
I'm torn at the moment. I really hope some detailed performance reviews/videos of the phones in action are put out before tomorrow night.

I really want the larger size of the 6 Plus, but the decreased performance in certain tests has me worried. I did see a test where it actually beat the 6 in GPU performance, though. Not sure what to think!

not really.

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the difference is still better than iPhone 5S which was already fast to begin with. and it is faster than iPad Air. Performance is nearly the same, don't worry
 
Even though I'm getting the 6 on Friday it was hard to decide between it and the 6+ in such a short time as I wanted a phone on launch day.

I own an iPad 4 and was thinking about getting the Mini in the future. If I chose the 6+ I wouldnt need a Mini but I wasn't convinced on carrying a bigger phone.

Hope I don't regret my decision.

Yes you will, I have a Note 3 and I still use my Nexus 7 for most things when I'm home. It's not really a tablet replacement as much as you think it is.

Maybe my decision was correct :)
 
this is the argument with the wife.. get a phone that's a phone and a tablet that's a tablet.. not one device that is too big to be convenient as a phone and too small to be a decent tablet.

I mean if someone was adamantly opposed to getting a tablet I guess..


I love my opo that has a 5.5" screen, and loved my Note 2. It just doesn't replace my iPad at home. The iPad is better for home use by far.
 
ulterior motive is cost. I mean seriously. As noble as you want to make it sounds that they are trying to "keep development efficient"... no.. It's because the entirety of the UI and OS (outside of tabbed browsing) can run perfectly fine and fluid inside of 1GB. When that isn't true, like currently for top tier android (Moto X, S5, G3, Note 4, etc) they will bump it up likewise. Until then we are just forced to deal with it, so they can hit their margins (same with storage).

Hopefully they move from Cyclone next year, and make enough QOL upgrades to iOS that it forces them to move to 2GB. But that's about the best we can hope for right now.

I had two thoughts colliding when I wrote that. I didn't mean to make Apple sound THAT noble. Sure. Lowballing storage is a way of maintaining margins. Agreed. 1gb is a crunch on users and developers. I don't know what I'm saying sometimes.
 
I love my opo that has a 5.5" screen, and loved my Note 2. It just doesn't replace my iPad at home. The iPad is better for home use by far.

well yeah.. I mean obviously my post was "imho".. I just know she's going to get to the Apple Store on Friday and be like "HOLY BALLS THAT'S HUGE!!!!"

Gruber really said it best. If you want a bigger iphone, get the 6. If you want a device that is bigger than an iphone/phone, get the 6 Plus.. really good way of putting it.

Agreed. 1gb is a crunch on users and developers. I don't know what I'm saying sometimes.

we haven't really seen any official statements or offhand comments from devs stating that 1GB is a problem.. yet. So it's tough to actually say that. Granted that might just mean that they are forced to fit their app inside of what's left of the 1GB. We'll see.. at this point I'm not confident that this year's iPads will ship with 2GB either.. however next year will likely see all 512MB devices drop from iOS9.. so maybe at that point apple will provide enough new features to really need 2GB on the new devices to provide the "apple UX"
 
well yeah.. I mean obviously my post was "imho".. I just know she's going to get to the Apple Store on Friday and be like "HOLY BALLS THAT'S HUGE!!!!"

Gruber really said it best. If you want a bigger iphone, get the 6. If you want a device that is bigger than an iphone/phone, get the 6 Plus.. really good way of putting it.


On the other hand, if you get a 6plus and decide you don't like it, you can return it for a 6 and be sure that is the right decision.

But if you start with a 6 and think you might possibly prefer the bigger phone, you could return it and get the 6 plus but discover you actually preferred the 6 after all, creating a slightly more pain in the ass situation.

I personally would err on the side of the plus.
 
On the other hand, if you get a 6plus and decide you don't like it, you can return it for a 6 and be sure that is the right decision.

But if you start with a 6 and think you might possibly prefer the bigger phone, you could return it and get the 6 plus but discover you actually preferred the 6 after all, creating a slightly more pain in the ass situation.

I personally would err on the side of the plus.

Very sound advice.


Personally I think a 4.7/4.8" device is perfect for a phone but if your needs support a bigger screen being more productive than obviously the 6+ will be better for you.
 
from the engadget review... could not be happier.. as someone who abhors digital zoom, the megapixel wars are nearly meaningless (my 8Mp Canon Rebel XT still kills virtually all smartphones)

I also pitted the Plus head to head against several other flagships. It bested the HTC One M8 in sharpness and white balance, though it didn't get quite as much light; it had more natural colors and less noise than the LG G3; it got more light, better colors and clearer focus than the Galaxy S5; and although the Lumia 1020 brought in the most light, it also did so at the expense of unnatural colors and noise.

So the iPhone 6 Plus held its own against nearly every major flagship in terms of low-light images, but how did it (and its 4.7-inch twin) fare in the daylight? Shots taken by the Lumia 1020 were far more detailed and had a slightly more accurate white balance and color representation outside; but while it did a fantastic job capturing the shadows, the highlights were typically more blown out than they were on the iPhone. The GS5 is a respectable contender in the daylight as well, offering more detail, but the iPhone generally produced more accurate colors. The G3 appears to be overexposed by default and the dynamic range is not as wide, so shadows are incredibly dark and whites are slightly blown out. Finally, the iPhone bested the HTC One in dynamic range, detail and color.

The iPhone camera may not always be the best in every circumstance, but it's consistently near the top in almost every scenario. The autofocus locks quickly; each shot contains all of the detail you'll need (unless you have to zoom in incredibly far); dynamic range is great; and color representation is sound. And although there weren't a lot of drastic improvements to the new iPhone cameras over the 5s, I know that if I need to snap a quick picture, it's going to turn out well.
 
from the engadget review... could not be happier.. as someone who abhors digital zoom, the megapixel wars are nearly meaningless (my 8Mp Canon Rebel XT still kills virtually all smartphones)

So basically it sits firmly in the "as good as everyone else, dies some things better" category. With the exception of the HTC One M8,which has a pretty bad camera anyway.
 
So basically it sits firmly in the "as good as everyone else, dies some things better" category. With the exception of the HTC One M8,which has a pretty bad camera anyway.

lol.. well yeah.. when you want to stay with iOS, it's nice to know that the camera is still competitive being as it's your only option :D

still wish the 6 would have gotten OIS... bah...

HTC One situation is weird being they were the first phone camera with larger pixels... the camera just ended up being way too situational.
 
lol.. well yeah.. when you want to stay with iOS, it's nice to know that the camera is still competitive being as it's your only option :D

still wish the 6 would have gotten OIS... bah...

HTC One situation is weird being they were the first phone camera with larger pixels... the camera just ended up being way too situational.

Yeah, it's great every once and awhile, terrible at all other times. Also I definitely understand people locked into one OS. Really thinking about switching to Apple, but I need a good enough reason too.
 
Yeah, it's great every once and awhile, terrible at all other times. Also I definitely understand people locked into one OS. Really thinking about switching to Apple, but I need a good enough reason too.
why not just do it and see how it is. At the very least you won't be disappointed unless you have a closed mind like a lot of internet nerds.

I'm someone that constantly goes between android and ios. I'm going from nexus 5 to iphone 6 as my latest move. It's different. It's amazing in its own way and you won't come to see that until you try it. And if you try it and you hate it...well iphones have immense value. Just sell it and go back. Don't let anyone persuade you. The reviews speak for themselves. Only thing left is for you to try it and see if it's your cup of tea.

You might like the ecosystem, which is the whole reason to switch over. The hardware is just the bonus. If not, you'll be fineeeee.
 
Yeah, it's great every once and awhile, terrible at all other times. Also I definitely understand people locked into one OS. Really thinking about switching to Apple, but I need a good enough reason too.

Buy a iPod touch, then you can give it a spin and see how you like it.
 
Yeah, it's great every once and awhile, terrible at all other times. Also I definitely understand people locked into one OS. Really thinking about switching to Apple, but I need a good enough reason too.

It is a big pill to swallow to move from an OS you have been using for x amount of years. I haven't spent a ton of money on the play store, but it is still a pretty significant amount. Knowing that I will have to start fresh on iOS is one of the main reasons why I am so hesitant to switch. The iPhone 6+ looks really nice though.
 
Is the off contract TMobile version and the AT&T version exactly the same?

supposedly it's weird..... IF you buy it from Apple, apple INSISTS it is unlocked (even though on Apple's site it says T-Mobile)

IF you buy it from T-Mobile, reports vary.. some reports are that it will ship unlocked, some say that T-Mobile is saying they will only unlock it after 45 days.

I would assume that it's unlocked if you pay upfront, and locked if you do installments.. I guess we'll find out on Friday.

As for the phones... supposedly this year FINALLY Apple is releasing only one modem config, which means that all phones worldwide should be identical in that regard. Last year's was close, but apparently AT&T and Sprint had slightly different modem configs artificially locking out certain LTE bands (VZW?).

Your other option for an "unlocked" phone is Verizon.. Verizon by agreement with the FCC is not allowed to sell locked LTE devices.
 
Damn, looks like the 6+ is completely out of the running as my next phone now. I was convinced they'd beef up the specs of that model and make it sing, but it sounds like they may have screwed the pooch.

No way am I going back to smaller phones, so it's between the Z3/4 (in 6 months) and a possible Droid MAXX that's rumored.
 
Damn, looks like the 6+ is completely out of the running as my next phone now. I was convinced they'd beef up the specs of that model and make it sing, but it sounds like they may have screwed the pooch.
Frankly this is over reaching IMHO. Some statements have been made that on occasion it "feels" like there's some small hitches. However we know iPads run smooth at higher resolutions with slower processors. More than likely any perceived differences will be patched. Admittedly the single handed mode doesn't sound mind blowing like people were hoping for, but it doesn't sound unusable either. Just that people were hoping for something more "Apple".

The 6+ honestly sounds like what people wanted. Just missing that "Apple"-like one handed mode.
 
1 GB vs 2/3 GB argument does not make any sense at all. It would make sense if iphone was actually cheaper due to less RAM.

Instead, you will pay a lot more for iPhone with 1 GB of RAM than for 3 GB Android flagship.

BTW, my Moto G works great with 1 GB of RAM. And my 3GS worked great for quite a while despite low ram.. of course, i also had task killers to help me out in 3GS.

I am sure iPhone 6 is a good phone. But who thinks what would either of them be rated if they had Sony, HTC or Samsung on the front? Since hardware wise, it is inferior phone and inferior packaging.

I bet it would not get 90's.
 
I am sure iPhone 6 is a good phone. But who thinks what would either of them be rated if they had Sony, HTC or Samsung on the front? Since hardware wise, it is inferior phone and inferior packaging.

I bet it would not get 90's.

Heh really?

I'm sure iOS has nothing to do with it. : |
 
I am sure iPhone 6 is a good phone. But who thinks what would either of them be rated if they had Sony, HTC or Samsung on the front? Since hardware wise, it is inferior phone and inferior packaging.

I bet it would not get 90's.

I'm not inclined to think reviewers decide what score a phone gets based on its spec sheets.
 
How much better is the battery life on i6 vs i4S?

iPhone 4S

Talk Time (3G): 8 hours
Battery Life (Web - 3G): 6 hours
Battery Life (Web - Wi-Fi): 9 hours
Battery Life (Music): 40 hours
Battery Life (Video): 10 hours
Standby Time: 8 days

iPhone 6

Talk Time (3G): 14 hours
Battery Life (Web - 3G/LTE): 10 hours
Battery Life (Web - Wi-Fi): 11 hours
Battery Life (Music): 50 hours
Battery Life (Video): 11 hours
Standby Time: 10 days

iPhone 6 Plus

Talk Time (3G): 24 hours
Battery Life (Web - 3G/LTE): 12 hours
Battery Life (Web - Wi-Fi): 12 hours
Battery Life (Music): 80 hours
Battery Life (Video): 14 hours
Standby Time: 16 days
 
from the engadget review... could not be happier.. as someone who abhors digital zoom, the megapixel wars are nearly meaningless (my 8Mp Canon Rebel XT still kills virtually all smartphones)
1020 says no.


Digital zoom can be used effectively. It just rarely is, and is obviously only a small part of what makes a camera good.
 
Don't I dare? This is getting weird... I'll just see myself out. Phone wars are weird. Also, Android owns like 80% of the market so... Apple ain't leading anything anymore.
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Except Apple still does lead in terms of App/Game development, and still is looked to for feature adoption.
 
The iPhone 6 can still compete for best in class, but the 6 Plus just looks bad compared to already released or soon to come Android phones. First "iPhone" you could ever say that about.
 
1020 says no.


Digital zoom can be used effectively. It just rarely is, and is obviously only a small part of what makes a camera good.

Lumia is an exception, not the rule.. Where they actually increased the physical sensor size. I mean Nokia's flagships are the shit as far as cameras go.

With that being said and among everyone else, if they are going to stick at a 1/3 camera sensor size, I am much more in favor of Apple's (and HTC's, despite their issues) approach than everyone else just cramming more pixels into the same 1/3" sensor.
 
Question for no one in particular:

If I didn't preorder and am not standing out on line on launch day, what's the earliest I can realistically expect to walk into an Apple store and buy a regular 6? I haven't been following the preorder/shipping numbers closely at all, but I thought I read that the phones are effectively sold out until November?
 
Question for no one in particular:

If I didn't preorder and am not standing out on line on launch day, what's the earliest I can realistically expect to walk into an Apple store and buy a regular 6? I haven't been following the preorder/shipping numbers closely at all, but I thought I read that the phones are effectively sold out until November?

6 Plus is the one you are reading about. 6 is showing on apple.com as shipping in 7-10 days. So presumably you should be able to walk into a store within like a week or two at worst for the 6. Reportedly Apple is well underway of hitting 80M manufactured through CY14.. So it "should" be relatively available pretty quickly.
 
Lumia is an exception, not the rule.. Where they actually increased the physical sensor size. I mean Nokia's flagships are the shit as far as cameras go.

With that being said and among everyone else, if they are going to stick at a 1/3 camera sensor size, I am much more in favor of Apple's (and HTC's, despite their issues) approach than everyone else just cramming more pixels into the same 1/3" sensor.

Agreed, hence the italics.

It's just sad no one else seems to get it. I'd go so far as to say more megapixels isn't just pointless, it's actually bad if the sensor remains small. You end up with really noisy images, particularly in low light. Hell even with Lumia's larger sensor ... it still results in a noisy image if used at full size. That's why their normal mode is to down sample the image in order to compensate for noise. Smart move IMO. The 930/Icon is a really nice balance.
 
Agreed. 1gb is a crunch on users and developers. I don't know what I'm saying sometimes.

Not this developer. Maybe game developers, but they also just got Metal, and the performance gains there seem to be huge.

App I'm building right now on it's most resource heavy screen
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I am very curious to user experiences on the 6+, im still heavy in doubt.

I've never had a subpar user experience with Apple. I think chances of anything other than a tiny quirk being wrong with 6+ usability is quite low. Unless you're referring to the size, in which case I'd just go to Best Buy and try some large phones out.
 
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