Canis lupus
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Lol and people thought 980 would be a lower end card than 780Ti because it's smaller.
Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)
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GHG
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Am I imagining things, but is Zotac GTX 970 noticeably shorter than other cards Maxwells?
This looks to be the case from the pictures.
Are there any reviews of this one yet or can anyone verify this?
Indeed, I'm expecting Maxwell to have all the 'SM6' features, making it properly dx12 compliant.
Many of the features advertised for Maxwell are known new features for DX12 as well.
Look on the CaseKing website for an proximate price.
That's not nearly as bad of a price I thought it would be. Nice.
Its unbelievable, almost. Really didn't see this coming.
That's the thing, isn't it? Much of the worry about how on earth people will be expected to run CV1 levels of performance has been alleviated. Not completely, obviously. Its still a mighty task, but this has brought it all into foreseeable reality.
Its just huge. An absolutely huge day.
I'll be getting one 970 now. And then probably another one later next year, near the time of CV1 release.
brain_stew
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It's impossible to say for definite but yes, this is my expectation as well.
Nope 970 is better.
Oh, then that's great! I'm looking at buying a PC and the 970 is about $80 cheaper here.
The 780Ti is better, the 780 is not.
Well I'm pleased with my card, that's for sure. So quiet and still performs like a boss. Not bad for 270 (price after I sell my old GPU).
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No, its not more powerful. 970 beats it everywhere(actually bests a Titan in most cases).
And the 970 is cheaper because Nvidia wanted to deliver a heavy blow to their competition, which seems to have landed right smack on the jaw.
SocksForWoks
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I thought we were due for the 800 series? Why 900?
As am I. Competition is great. Nvidia have hit it out of the park with the 970.
And only marginally better at that.
To keep in line with mobile GPU naming scheme.
So you already have the MSI one? How quiet is it? Thx
ashecitism
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There's already a 800m series out, which was a refresh of the 700m series. Nvidia or the OEMs wanted the namings between the two lines to be consistent, to not confuse people. The next mobile GPU line will be 900m.
brain_stew
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What response? There's nothing they can do with the 290 series that will make them attractive at this point save cutting them to a margin crippling $200/$250 which isn't going to happen.
The only silicon that they may have up their sleeve is a full fat Tonga but that isn't going to get close to the GTX 970 and at anything more than $200 it will look overpriced.
I'd love to be proven wrong but at this point I've lost complete faith in AMD. They've also got a likely GTX 960 to watch out for which could very quickly hoover up their bread and butter $200-$250 segment. If Nvidia launch that card with 4GB GDDR5 and price it at $200-$230 then AMD are completely fucked.
I am kinda disappointed that the reference design only has 4 GB Ram on board. I still use my 580 and that one has already 3 GB Ram for christs sake. That card is from 2011!!!
I will wait until some vendors put in 6 or 8 GB Ram until i upgrade, does anyone have an idea if such an announcement was made already?
I will wait until some vendors put in 6 or 8 GB Ram until i upgrade, does anyone have an idea if such an announcement was made already?
GHG
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I'm doubting this could be real and I'm thinking that the reality is that Zotac have selected the wrong picture.
brain_stew
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Reference 580s only had 1.5GB. 8GB cards will release later at a price premium.
Extremely quiet, even compared to my ASUS DCII Top. Don't even pass 70C with temp limit set to 91 in Afterburner.
Barely noticeable at full load in Firestrike.
AMD's best option now is to get a 20nm line out ASAP.
It's awesome. Really awesome.
That'll likely mean just sitting and waiting until it's ready which is gonna cause a lot of pain in the mean time. They need to cut prices and improve their Never Settle offering to compete.
GHG
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ashecitism
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But what can they do when TSMC isn't ready or prioritize other partners like Apple?
Nothing. Their hands are tied.
Well yea, that *have* to cut prices now. I feel bad for them, cuz I know that's gonna hurt. They had Nvidia beat for bang-for-buck for a while now and it didn't seem to make a huge dent in marketshare. They can still hold on with pricing, but in terms of actually taking it to Nvidia? There doesn't really seem a good way to do that without putting out a new line of better performing cards.
They'll have to wait, obviously. But release 20nm cards as soon as they can. Nvidia will probably sit on 28nm for a while now, leaving AMD a bit of wiggle room to outperform them for a time.
Yeah i know that the reference design didn't have 3GB...i am a bit worried that 4GB "only" wont last that long because the PS4 and XBO have 5+GB available for games and console -> PC porting is often sloppy when it comes to VRAM management.
Yeah if they can be first to market with 20nm it'd be a great win for them. Just depends on whether they can secure 20nm chips and guarantee them out a decent bit before Nvidia. All comes down to timing.
brain_stew
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Seeing OCed 970s comfortably beat out a stock 780ti or Titan Black is great to see.
Brerlappin
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Gat dang that 970 is tempting. Are there any european sites selling them yet? I see one on komplett.ie for 350, was hoping to pick one up a bit cheaper than that if possible. Got a 2GB 770 like 3 months ago, might flip that toward the cost of a 970
You'll be able to play every PS4/XBONE console port that's ever released just fine on a GTX 970. There. I said it.
Hip Hop
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I know it's not out yet, but do you guys think an upgrade from 670 to 970 would be good for GTA V? My 670 is a 2gb card. Don't know if that makes a big difference.
What sort of things do you have to do when removing and installing a different card to a system? No OS reinstall or anything like that, right?
I guess I'm gonna put my 670 on sale here on Gaf in the Buy/Sell thread later this year.
What sort of things do you have to do when removing and installing a different card to a system? No OS reinstall or anything like that, right?
I guess I'm gonna put my 670 on sale here on Gaf in the Buy/Sell thread later this year.
Taking a quick look Scan have an MSI GTX 970 instock as well as a Gigabyte GTX 970 (well UK, not specifically European like komplett
)brain_stew
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Nvidia are so far ahead in terms of efficiency now that a die shrink alone won't be enough to hit parity with Nvidia IMO. They need a die shrink and major architectural efficiency gains if they are to be competitive again. They're two full generations behind now.
The Janitor
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So is DSR and MFAA just for Maxwell?
GTAV will probably demanding on your CPU, so that's something to think about too, but yea, a 970 should be great for GTAV. For anything, really, if we're talking 1080p.
Installing a new card is pretty much as simple as taking the old one out and putting the new one in. And apparently its good to uninstall your current video driver before installing the new card, then just reinstalling the latest driver update. Pretty easy upgrade to do.
brain_stew
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As Nvidia ship around twice the volume of AMD (and now AMD don't have a high end that gap will only widen) why would TSMC give AMD priority over Nvidia anyway?
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