brotkasten
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The JetStream is the dual-fan version. It seems impossible to find reports of the regular edition.
Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)
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The JetStream is the dual-fan version. It seems impossible to find reports of the regular edition.
UnObtainium17
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I just hope they wont jack up the price of the card that I wanted (GB 970) once it goes back on stock. Also keeping an eye on what AMD is going to announce th 25th(?) there might be something that might interest me if in any case I still cant get a 970.
What a shock! There is only ONE DVI port on both cards, 970 and 980. That means I would be one monitor less of 2560x1600 resolution on my monitor unless I get another 980 card. PISSED!!!!! I don't want to get a 970 SLI as I really prefer the 980, but I don't want to spend over $1k on a graphics card!
PISSED!!!!! I wish ASUS or someone else can adjust the card to include another DVI or something... but I think they can't. DAMN!!!
PISSED!!!!! I wish ASUS or someone else can adjust the card to include another DVI or something... but I think they can't. DAMN!!!
Dictator93
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Pretty sure 970s and 980s released with two DVI-D. The Gigabyte g1 editions for example.
GHG
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Just get 2 overclocked 970's. You really wont be losing out on much in the way of performance.
icecold1983
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is the gigabyte g1 the only custom 980 available so far? i mean its sold out everywhere but i cant even find a listing for any other custom 980s
bought a launch zotac 580, to this day, it never failed on me. i think the brand is just unknown. Also mine is stock speeds and not overclocked like many other company's do.
mordecaii83
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Um... Did you miss the Gigabyte 970? 2x DVI, 3x Display Port, 1x HDMI.
MikeOfTheLivingDead
Grapetastic!
The gigabyte G1 980 has 3 display port outputs.
get a Display port - DVI-D adapter?
Guys. Come to Japan so I can buy you a drink. I'm so relieved as I have been waiting for a long time to upgrade my 680 DirectCU II Top to run on my 2560x1600 monitors and now I can do it thanks to you info.
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/2014/...rce-gtx-980-gtx-970-g1-gaming-graphics-cards/
Ok. So what is the likelihood of how quick we'll see an Ti version of the 980?
j0hnny_385
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I think I'll go for the Gigabyte 970 Windforce in the end.
After reading a ton of reviews, it does seems like the best. Quiet, cool and lots of headroom for quality OC.
After reading a ton of reviews, it does seems like the best. Quiet, cool and lots of headroom for quality OC.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I'd get it if it wasn't so dang long...
Swapped out my MSI R9 290 for an MSI 970 over the weekend.
Very happy with it overall and is easily the quitest card I've ever had. Seems to stay in fanless passive mode until it hits 60 degress so videos using heavy madVR settings and alot of older games I briefly tested don't even cause the fans to spin up which is incredible really.
There's been a couple of niggles though, first being that I couldn't get an HDMI signal until I installed the Nvidia drivers so I needed to dig out an HDMI-DVI adapter just to get a signal. And even now I only get an HDMI signal pop up when the desktop appears, can't view the bios using HDMI out. Is this a typical Nvidia thing as seems a bit odd?
Was also getting alot of stuttering, pixelation and A/V sync issues with video playback using MPC plus madVR. Switched over to default rendering which should use hardly any resources and wasn't any better so fiddled with a few settings in the Nvidia control panel and seemed to narrow it down to the power management mode. It's set to adapative globally by default but changing it so full power seemed to sort it so wonder whether the adaptive setting was being too agressive at lowering clocks and putting the card into a too low power state when using MPC?
Very happy with it overall and is easily the quitest card I've ever had. Seems to stay in fanless passive mode until it hits 60 degress so videos using heavy madVR settings and alot of older games I briefly tested don't even cause the fans to spin up which is incredible really.
There's been a couple of niggles though, first being that I couldn't get an HDMI signal until I installed the Nvidia drivers so I needed to dig out an HDMI-DVI adapter just to get a signal. And even now I only get an HDMI signal pop up when the desktop appears, can't view the bios using HDMI out. Is this a typical Nvidia thing as seems a bit odd?
Was also getting alot of stuttering, pixelation and A/V sync issues with video playback using MPC plus madVR. Switched over to default rendering which should use hardly any resources and wasn't any better so fiddled with a few settings in the Nvidia control panel and seemed to narrow it down to the power management mode. It's set to adapative globally by default but changing it so full power seemed to sort it so wonder whether the adaptive setting was being too agressive at lowering clocks and putting the card into a too low power state when using MPC?
diggmcbadass
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Place I ordered my gtx980 from pushed their expected stock date back from 23. to 24. And now the obsessive waiting begins...
CyanideFuse
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I have got a Zotac GTX 670 and it has performed admirably since July 2012 with no troubles at all.
brain_stew
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It's unlikely that there'll be a Ti version of the 980, it is the full chip.
Now a Titan 2 and/or 1080 later down the road? That's a different matter but that won't happen overnight.
mrchampipi
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Sooo my 7870 died about a month ago after a long agnony (I blame the infamous diode 201), and the shop I bought it from failed to get it repaired in time...wich should be good news: if I can get full refund (220 euros), I'll go for a 980.
In MPC, have you changed the harware acceleration settings (in LAV video decoder) to nvidia cuvid?
In MPC, have you changed the harware acceleration settings (in LAV video decoder) to nvidia cuvid?
There may not even be a product with that name. The GM204 used in the 980 has all components fully activated. There is nowhere else for GM204 to go, really.
The bigger GM200 is coming maybe Q1/Q2 2015 and will probably power their $1000 product.
there isn't any on the MSI 970. Fans don't even start up until around 50-60 depending on the card. Even at load they are bloody quiet. Might dig out a sound meter but honestly my case fan is louder - and that isn't 'loud'
If they're achieving these results with the 970/980, and the chips are so much more efficient than the 7xx family, the enthusiast-level products should be pretty incredible when they arrive.
The oc'd 970s being sold by the likes of EVGA, MSI etc., that compete with 780ti's and TItans, seem to be some of the best value for money in years. I'm even thinking of getting one and I don't need it!
how is doing it by Nvidia's control panel is not "official"?
CyanideFuse
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Perhaps they just meant that now it has an option in the control panel (Dynamic Super Resolution) as opposed to setting up the custom resolution.
To any one that has used this new feature: does it make the image look darker? When I set up a custom resolution to down sample (on a GTX670) my colours are a lot darker through the down sampled image.
This shouldn't happen at all using DSR, which is a driver-level solution and much better than using a custom resolution. Some displays would experience problems with brightness or colours when forced to run in modes they are not designed for. Using GeDoSaTo to down-sample should also avoid the issue you mention for similar reasons.
Because its never been officially recognized. Nvidia has never advertised the capability to downsample using Control Panel, probably because it depends on the monitor and the monitor manufacturers aren't going to particularly endorse Nvidia users pushing their monitors in ways that weren't intended, even if the risk to the user's equipment isn't high.
This is driver-level support and not dependent on your monitor anymore. Its not just the same thing we had before, but with a new convenient slider.
Yep, tried software, CUVID and DXVA2 in LAV. Software is least efficient with slightly higher render times and power draw, CUVID and DXVA2 are almost identical with DXVA being slightly more efficient. Performance is the same on all in practise.
Hopefully it was the power management setting in the control panel. Remember having an issue before with RadeonPro hooking onto MPC and screwing things up unless set to leave it alone.
I have a question guys, will there be waterblocks for the EVGA GeForce GTX 970 ACX 1.0 ?
Have there been waterblocks before for the custom designs of EVGA?
I'd love to get an EVGA card since everyone on GAF is so happy with theirs but I am thinking about adding a custom loop to my PC down the line so it'd be nice not having to buy a new GPU just for that.
Also, from what I have seen some of the short 970s (and the reference ones) fully support 670 waterblocks so if anyone wants to water cool them right now you can go with these:
http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/waterblock/3831109856482
Have there been waterblocks before for the custom designs of EVGA?
I'd love to get an EVGA card since everyone on GAF is so happy with theirs but I am thinking about adding a custom loop to my PC down the line so it'd be nice not having to buy a new GPU just for that.
Also, from what I have seen some of the short 970s (and the reference ones) fully support 670 waterblocks so if anyone wants to water cool them right now you can go with these:
http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/waterblock/3831109856482
Are you using a TV? I asked the same question and got the solution on the previous page.
CyanideFuse
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I just clicked back to read your comment. I am using an Asus VS278 monitor.
I doubt I will down sample much with my current card. I was just seeing what legs my 670 has when going from 1080p to 1440p.
Can anyone advise on the "one fan - funnel heat out the back" cards?
I've been a Twin Frozr fanboy, but I also changed cases from a multi fan Lian-Li monster to a Silverstone Sugo SG07 mini ITX.
The card runs along the side of the case, has a transparent window above it and is pretty much segmented away from the rest of the innards.
(not mine)
(also not mine, but effectively what I have)
(not mine, image if it all done up)
I have a suspicion (based on this thread) that it might be great at powering air around the card, but not so much at getting it out of the box.
There is a huge fan on top of the case, but I wouldn't say it runs overly fast.
Would one of those single fan and covered up cards work well, venting directly out the back? And would they be able to compete on a noise level aspect with the Frozr?
I've been a Twin Frozr fanboy, but I also changed cases from a multi fan Lian-Li monster to a Silverstone Sugo SG07 mini ITX.
The card runs along the side of the case, has a transparent window above it and is pretty much segmented away from the rest of the innards.
(not mine)
(also not mine, but effectively what I have)
(not mine, image if it all done up)
I have a suspicion (based on this thread) that it might be great at powering air around the card, but not so much at getting it out of the box.
There is a huge fan on top of the case, but I wouldn't say it runs overly fast.
Would one of those single fan and covered up cards work well, venting directly out the back? And would they be able to compete on a noise level aspect with the Frozr?
Dictator93
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the new DSR is monitor/refresh rate indepedent. Which is actually really awesome.
Windom Earle
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The great thing about DSR compared to the "old" Nvidia downsampling is that you can hit higher resolutions without fiddling around with refresh rate, etc. 4K, done! Could never reach that before. And you can adjust the amount of blur that the downsampling adds to reduce aliasing further. (Or remove all the blur if you like)
Deaf Spacker
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I may be building a PC shortly after I sell my current one, going from two EVGA 680 Classifieds to two 970's would be a big jump wouldn't it?
I have a Fractal Design Node 304 which looks to be pretty much the same size and shape case as that but with even less ventilation (no top exhaust, just a single rear 140mm fan) and it houses an i7 3770k at 4.5ghz and a newly installed MSI Twin Frozr V 970 with perfectly fine temps. Not seen the 970 go above 65 degrees yet.
The 970 replaced an R9 290 which are notoriously warm running cards and temps were well within acceptable limits as well.
Whoa, I hadn't thought of that. That's amazing news, can't wait until it rolls out to older cards.
Fallout-NL
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(serious question) What is the significance of it being refresh rate independent?
Mufausa The 3rd
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I think it's time to put down the GTX 570. I'm gunna put it up on Craigslist or Kijiji. PM me if you want me 570. $140 for the card.
Sometimes you'd be able to add a resolution at 30 or 50Hz, but not at 60 for example.
You can run 4K downsampling with 144Hz.
With the normal downsampling through adding resolutions manually I could only get 60Hz.
I've mainly been looking at the Asus/MSI 970s since I value a quiet card, but after reading that overclocking the Asus causes it's fan to act wonky I've pretty much settled on MSI's card. But seeing as all of these 970s are impossible to find at the moment, trying to nab a specific model just feels like a fool errand. So I'd love to have another model or two to keep an eye out for, why Gigabyte?
Fallout-NL
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You can use it at any resolution on any display. That's the draw.
So basically I can use any resolution that keeps my 16:10 aspect ratio? awesome.
Also the old downsampling method wouldn't work over HDMI to my plasma TV. I'd assume DSR will which should be nice.
This is really great news.
Do we need to still add resolutions by hand like now? I really hate it when I have to do it every time when I am changing drivers.Also I always must do it twice for different screens.
GTX 970 sounds amazing but availability as of now here in poland is very limited and I can't get MSI card anywhere
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