Myafterhours
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is msi twin frozen cooler? because that doesn't make a noise.
Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)
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is msi twin frozen cooler? because that doesn't make a noise.
Ravijn
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Gigabizzle
Conkerkid11
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Like, seriously. Is Newegg going to ship my card to me on Friday whether I pay $1.99 for the cheapest delivery, or $25.16 for the one day delivery?
TMONSTER
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I'm not going to keep them very long because im jumping to big maxwell as soon as it drops, had a good experience with 3x titans so im playing with 4 of these just to see if quad is as fucked up as i hear. Had only a little time with them before work but the top card is idling at 70c and throttling in games, waiting on water blocks before I do serious benching.
Ravijn
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Depends on what warehouse it comes from. If there is one close then you can take a chance with the cheaper shipping.
If you REALLY, REALLY want it.... next day it.
I can live with noise and high temperatures as I'm pretty sure my EVGA 560Ti was quite guilty of both (also, what does "coil whine" sound like? is it different than the regular noise that you get under load?).
I'm just concerned about any possible issues with the hardware itself causing it to depreciate more rapidly (quite shocking to be talking about EVGA like that).
You won't be disappointed with either. MSI is dead silent even under load, gets a little hotter than Gigabyte with automatic fan curve at least. Easy to adjust yourself though, even 80% fan speed is still really quiet compared to most cards I've heard.
Finally I've installed my 970 Twin FROZR.
Very first impressions: HOLY. SHIT.
With the 670 in this map of TItanfall [or the damned Lagoon] I always suffered of severe stuttering, with texture on High. Now, texture on Insane:
http://i.imgur.com/tRWrmg2.jpg
Before shutting down the PC with the old card, I briefly load up Metro Redux. My last save was in this very corridor, where I had about 55 FPS. Now....
http://i.imgur.com/mIXG6Me.jpg
And everything runs with a peach-smooth feeling.
HOLY.SHIT.
Time to go after some serious tests!
Very first impressions: HOLY. SHIT.
With the 670 in this map of TItanfall [or the damned Lagoon] I always suffered of severe stuttering, with texture on High. Now, texture on Insane:
http://i.imgur.com/tRWrmg2.jpg
Before shutting down the PC with the old card, I briefly load up Metro Redux. My last save was in this very corridor, where I had about 55 FPS. Now....
http://i.imgur.com/mIXG6Me.jpg
And everything runs with a peach-smooth feeling.
HOLY.SHIT.
Time to go after some serious tests!
Got the card, panicked when it wasn't detected. Powered up fine though. Tried my old card and wasn't working too. Forgot my Z77 extreme 4 MOBO for some reason does not like me switching GPUs without a BIOS reset, which I had to do for the previous card too, and I think I spent the same amount of time panicking over it.
Probably time to write that down. Now to find the software that'll let me disable the distracting Windforce LED.
Probably time to write that down. Now to find the software that'll let me disable the distracting Windforce LED.
Yeah. It has a no fan idle mode. Same with the ASUS strix
CloudyTuba
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Just installed the EVGA GTX 970 ACX 1.0 in my rig. At the desktop it's not very noisy, about the same as my previous card (EVGA GTX 750ti), but once I start up a game it has audible coil whine and noise. Kinda regret not spending the extra $30 and picking up Gigabyte's release.
Ravijn
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I have one. It's dead quiet and it runs very fast.
Also, the build quality of this card is amazing.
*sigh* that's what I was afraid of, and I'm pretty sure I've got that model too (at least with the ACX 2.0 you might have a chance to avoid this). Gonna suck if I return it then I probably have to eat the restocking fee in addition to shipping and then the additional costs of a new model...
...oh well, no more EVGA loyalty that's for sure.
Fallout-NL
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Aw yiss:
Yes. Same threshold as ASUS' Strix series I think (65°C).
Yes.
CloudyTuba
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But wouldnt the MSI be even more dead quiet since its fans actually completely shut off? No fan has to be quieter than three fans.
Under stress the GB is about 10c cooler than the MSI. 70c vs 60c.
However the MSI is semi-passive and will actually completely shut off the fans when operating under a certain safe temperature.
Windom Earle
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I never expected to say this, but with these super high frame rates (100+) I am starting to become a fan of V-Sync off in fps games. Just feels better and the tearing is much reduced compared to lower frame rates.
Maybe, depends on your expectations. Go SLI if you want a real leap.
Maybe, depends on your expectations. Go SLI if you want a real leap.
Because there's almost no difference between them, and I've had a lot of great interactions with GB's customer service. Plus it looks better.
Adjust the voltage slightly. Coil whine should go away.
Ravijn
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I'm coming from a card that had a blower style cooler on it and when the temps on that hit 60-60c it sounded like my PC was going to take off.
I have a very open case(HAF 932) and even with 3 fans spinning I cannot hear it. When the load and temps hit 60c and I haven't seen the card go over that yet it's still quiet. I can't hear it over my case fans(230mm). The tower is about 5ft from me.
I personally wouldn't want a card that shut off it's fans to save power/noise. I'd get all paranoid that the card is failing or something.
I turned on the 'Quiet' fan profile and it's a little bit better. Still hear the coil whine though when running benchmarks at high load
Will do, thanks for the tip
CloudyTuba
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I'm coming from a card that had a blower style cooler on it and when the temps on that hit 60-60c it sounded like my PC was going to take off.
I have a very open case(HAF 932) and even with 3 fans spinning I cannot hear it. When the load and temps hit 60c and I haven't seen the card go over that yet it's still quiet. I can't hear it over my case fans(230mm). The tower is about 5ft from me.
I personally wouldn't want a card that shut off it's fans to save power/noise. I'd get all paranoid that the card is failing or something.
I'm just sort of playing devil's advocate since I've got a GB 970 on order with Amazon (but no stock yet so I still have time to change my mind).
Do gigabyte's fans have a history of becoming noisier or not working after a couple of years? A lot of room to go wrong with three fans. Meanwhile MSI will actually use its fans a lot less frequently. And my PC is only a couple feet from my face so I will be more sensitive to noise.
Is there really any danger from turning off the fans completely on the MSI or is that pure paranoia?
Got the EVGA SC ACX 1.0, and I'm not hearing any of the coil whine or noise that people have been complaining about. Noise is similar to my 750 ti. That is, I can't really hear anything significant. Dead Rising 3 runs almost like a champ at 1080p. Drops on occasion, but never below 50. Temps seem normal, about 50c on near-load. Very impressed. Crysis 1 is still dropping as low as 45 in super high vegetation areas. That's an exception though. Witcher 2 with ubersampling averages about 75 fps. Thief benchmark never drops below 75 fps. Confident that the card will last me the generation. Best purchase I've made all year with the EVGA warranty. Note that these are all at 1440x900. My 1080p monitor won't be hooked up until next week!
If you're sick of refreshing pages waiting for a particular card to come back into stock, this site is a lifesaver: http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx970/
Finally got my 970 ordered, upgrading from a 6950: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1061?vs=1351
lol
Finally got my 970 ordered, upgrading from a 6950: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1061?vs=1351
lol
Adjust the voltage.
What you're hearing might not be coil whine though. Every card makes noise when it's under full load. The reason why this seems more annoying now, is because cards as so quiet now that you can actually hear that stuff over the fan noise. That was not the case until the whole non-reference thing took off.
Coil whine is generally fixed by adjusting voltage or by swapping power cables from the wall->PSU or PSU->Card. Be sure it's actually the GPU making the whine and not the PSU, if it is a whine.
Since I started putting water blocks on my cards, every single one makes weird popping noises, almost like a wire is hitting a spinning fan, but electrified too.
EVGA Ref 690, 3x670 EVGA 4GB, 7970 Matrix, 7970 Lightning, Sapphire R9 290, Gigabyte 690, EVGA reference 780, 780 Ti Classified Kingpin.
The idea of spinning less to increase lifespan is negligible next to general failure rate. Both companies have history with fans failing after awhile, but so does everyone.
There is no danger from turning a fan completely off. Your system would shut down before it hit dangerous temps.
Ravijn
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This is my first Gigabyte card so I guess I will find out about the fans.
I'm just paranoid about no fans spinning.
Thanks for that. I'll definitely set aside some funds for it then. Performance is one thing, but the lower power draw for me is a huge plus.
Generally which manufacturer should I go for?
I usually hear Gigabyte or ASUS cards being the ones to get.
demigod
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Cant you just deny the shipment when it arrives to avoid restocking fee?
opticalmace
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Ooh, I'm using a 6950 right now too. What are your system specs? Running 1080p?
I kind of want a 970... ~_~
BoboBrazil
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What's the shortest gtx970 available? I need to fit this in a Dell case.
Zotac or Palit Jetstream.
Cool that they have a Canadian option. It's depressing to look at though.
BoboBrazil
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What are the measurements on these? I can't find them on the website under specs.
Smushroomed
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newegg all sold out when i was screwing around
I really want to get it from amazon, as it would be a little cheaper
Newegg said it would have been here tomorrow on any type shipping, is that usually true? I live about 45 minutes away from the warehouse
I really want to get it from amazon, as it would be a little cheaper
Newegg said it would have been here tomorrow on any type shipping, is that usually true? I live about 45 minutes away from the warehouse
Ravijn
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Yeah if you have a close warehouse you'll usually get it next day.
mrchampipi
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Great. MSI recognised my deceased 7870 as beeing faulty, and against all odds my online retailer isn't trying to f**k me, meaning I'll get a full refund of the original price I got it for a year and a half ago (220euros)...So I'll be able to upgrade to the 970 for something like 120 euros, yay!
Thank you for listening, I really needed to share my joy.
Thank you for listening, I really needed to share my joy.
Single 970 OC'ed to almost 980 performance.
But if you overclock the 980 as well?
Demigod Mac
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Must resist temptation... Keep thinking of a Maxwell based Titan II...!
I had someone already receive the card while I was at work before I started noticing and reading the reports at mid day.
However, these posts are alleviating some worry a bit:
Are changing fan profiles and voltage settings relatively easy?
A OC'ed 980 will be about 15% faster than stock 980 performance. If you can get a 970 OC'ed to almost stock 980 performance is where the value is.
So the question is, is that 980 worth the extra $200 to you for 15% performance.
I got a Gigabyte 970 , and figure if it starts to show signs of age later next year / early 2016, I'll just add a 2nd one , and SLI.
FYI, this is at 1080p. Where I plan to game at for the next 2-3 years.