TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Unfortunate, but expected.
Still just glad it's coming! Always remember, this game shouldn't be existing!
Still just glad it's coming! Always remember, this game shouldn't be existing!
Bayonetta 2 off to a slow start in Japan [Update: Week 2 sales]
- Thread starter SomewhatGroovy
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Every game has performed below expectations except for MGR I'm fairly sure. I think they'll somehow manage to continue to get funding. Even when they were Clover they had multiple bombas, and yet they got to release 4 games in a 2 year period when they started Platinum. (Infinite Space, Mad World, and Bayonetta were all released the same year and then Vanquish came out the year after.) Korra will probably perform well for them, and they already have Scalebound under contract with MS. MGR 2 is all but confirmed as well.
Stone Ocean
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Platinum's last non-Wii U game didn't bomb at all. I'm not worried about Platinum's output in the slightest for now.
Well Japan is more attracted to handhelds now so this isn't the best example for determining the Wii U userbase's interest in B2.
Let's wait for the sales in other regions.
Not that I'm expecting the game to sell great regardless.
Metal Gear?!
gigantor21
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I certainly hope so--I LOVED Revengeance--but it's that "somehow" that bothers me.
uncredited male
Member
Stop confusing me.
Does Bayonetta 2 have Mario in it? I am only allowed to buy 2 non-Mario Nintendo games a year. I would sure hate to buy this and inadvertently support bad Nintendo business decisions.
I'm sure NOA will get right on that. :/
This is the company that approached Nintendo with an idea for an all-stars character action game with Nintendo characters and they walked out of the meeting getting to make a brand new IP. They'll be fine. Worst case scenario, they just go full indie and start focusing on smaller downloadable titles and maybe a big budget title every 4 or 5 years. Korra is maybe an indication of their plans in the future. Maybe we'll get a handheld exclusive game out of them. Who fucking knows.
Ask your mom.
WhiskerFrisker
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No question about that. Unless... Microsoft is going to use it to move consoles in Japan?!
PensivePen
Member
Platinum seems like a bizarre choice of developer to try and move consoles in Japan.
Fun fact: As dead as it may be, it's still the best selling current generation home console in Japan. And quite possibly the second best selling worldwide. Think about that for a moment.
Meesh
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There's a Mario type outfit I think for Bayo...if that counts at all. Besides which, you shouldn't be listening to anyone who tries to dictate your purchases or tastes bro, you should be able to be you, an individual.
Mind = blown.
Monocle
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I couldn't agree more. Nintendo's support for Bayonetta 2 is a powerful statement of their values as a game company, and an extraordinary gift not just to action game fans but anyone who appreciates deep rich substantial gameplay over flashy but hollow spectacle.
Conrad Link
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a) It wouldn't have sold much better on other consoles anyway, how many Platinum games have to come out to prove this?
b) It wouldn't even exist if it weren't for Nintendo. Platinum knew it probably wouldn't sell billions, Nintendo probably knew, EVERYONE knew... yet here were are getting the game anyway. Whatever their reasons for making it are, we should be thanking Nintendo for donating a game to the 'I love Bayo I wish there was more charity'.
They saw an opportunity to give something to the hardcore audience and delivered, well done!
Buy a Wii U and have fun as a means of thanking them.
"GAWD DAMN IT WHY DIDN'T NINTENDO RELEASE THIS GAME ON MY SYSTEM OF CHOICE?"
"WII U? NO THANKS, IT HAS NO GAMES LOLOL - EXCEPT THIS ONE EXCLUSIVE GAME IT HAS I WANT THAT I'M REALLY UPSET ABOUT."
b) It wouldn't even exist if it weren't for Nintendo. Platinum knew it probably wouldn't sell billions, Nintendo probably knew, EVERYONE knew... yet here were are getting the game anyway. Whatever their reasons for making it are, we should be thanking Nintendo for donating a game to the 'I love Bayo I wish there was more charity'.
They saw an opportunity to give something to the hardcore audience and delivered, well done!
Buy a Wii U and have fun as a means of thanking them.
"GAWD DAMN IT WHY DIDN'T NINTENDO RELEASE THIS GAME ON MY SYSTEM OF CHOICE?"
"WII U? NO THANKS, IT HAS NO GAMES LOLOL - EXCEPT THIS ONE EXCLUSIVE GAME IT HAS I WANT THAT I'M REALLY UPSET ABOUT."
TheSpoiler
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a) It wouldn't have sold much better on other consoles anyway, how many Platinum games have to come out to prove this?
b) It wouldn't even exist if it weren't for Nintendo. Platinum knew it probably wouldn't sell billions, Nintendo probably knew, EVERYONE knew... yet here were are getting the game anyway. Whatever their reasons for making it are, we should be thanking Nintendo for donating a game to the 'I love Bayo I wish there was more charity'.
They saw an opportunity to give something to the hardcore audience and delivered, well done!
Buy a Wii U and have fun as a means of thanking them.
"GAWD DAMN IT WHY DIDN'T NINTENDO RELEASE THIS GAME ON MY SYSTEM OF CHOICE?"
"WII U? NO THANKS, IT HAS NO GAMES LOLOL - EXCEPT THIS ONE EXCLUSIVE GAME IT HAS I WANT THAT I'M REALLY UPSET ABOUT."
The original title sold far better in the first week (and so did Rising, I believe), but the second point still remains - it wouldn't be in existence if Nintendo hadn't stepped in. We can debate all day, but the fact remains that Bayo 2 exist because Nintendo deemed it so.
UncleLeo!?
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Bring out the list man (and the chalkboard while your at it, I haven't seen it a while).
SerTapTap
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I don't think there's a developer in the world who could make a Metal Gear game not sell on the two biggest console platforms + PC
Elfforkusu
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Those were before the death of consoles in Japan.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Lets not pretend a huge part of the appeal of Bayonetta(and Platinum games in general) isn't the flashy, hollow spectacle
demosthenes
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Relaxed Muscle
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I guess the Bayo IP is oficially dead.
At least we managed to get a sequel.
Is clearly not doing it....
At least we managed to get a sequel.
Is clearly not doing it....
The fact they took a license that has proven to be a dud and funded a sequel is a pretty good insight as to why this company is failing with their console.
I think there's an argument to be made MGR lost sales with platinum attached. I know of at least one person who didn't buy it, because they were sold on the original vision and were not fans of Platinum.
blast processed
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I'm buying it next month regardless of the sales data. Take that internet!
I think the audience for such retro/arcadey games in Japan is almost non-existent on any console but I was hoping for more sales since Japan is supposed to be the land of the killer app, meaning fans of the genre would have bought the console just to enjoy this one game.
Hopefully western sales fare a little better, atleast the RRP will keep it's price compared to other systems since most of the playerbase is accustomed to buying these type of games at bargain bin prices despite their cult status. (If this was on any other console it would be £10 bargain bin fodder within a month so launch sales are more important on other systems)
EDIT Whatever the sales I've nothing but respect for Nintendo, they've done more than enough.
Hopefully western sales fare a little better, atleast the RRP will keep it's price compared to other systems since most of the playerbase is accustomed to buying these type of games at bargain bin prices despite their cult status. (If this was on any other console it would be £10 bargain bin fodder within a month so launch sales are more important on other systems)
EDIT Whatever the sales I've nothing but respect for Nintendo, they've done more than enough.
PensivePen
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If Nintendo continuing to be bad at business meant I can get a few more awesome sequels I wouldn't mind too much.
Fund God Hand 2 Nintendo. It will surely save the Wii U.
Aquamarine
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Hyrule Warriors - 78,773 first week, 114,252 LTD
Bayonetta 1 + 2 - 33,114 first week
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Hunting exclusives to generate goodwill with the hardcore crowd is far from a bad thing on Nintendo's part, and if anything, they haven't been aggressive enough at it. They're failing with the Wii U for a lot of factors, but these sort of partnerships are in no way a detriment.
Meesh
Member
Same, two copies, one for my brother. I'm just happy this game lives to see the light of day, long live Platinum and Bayonetta!!!
Shhh, they're funding good games instead of crap
demosthenes
Member
This gif makes me want to watch HIMYM again...I don't know why.
Hope they continue, but if they keep backing duds I am not sure how much longer they can continue doing so.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Ask your mom.
There are tons of parts of the games where when gameplay would normally be taken away from someone it isn't. Like when you deal the finishing blow to the last two bosses of the first Bayonetta. The flashy spectacle is an appeal, but a lot of that flashy spectacle is controlled by you.Sure, they have QTEs and stuff, but they also have some of the best designed normal encounters and boss fights in the business. The entire point of the character action genre is to feel like you're fully in control of your character and you feel an immense sense of accomplishment when you get a Pure Platinum in Bayonetta or Wonderful 101.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Japan's console market is dead
WhiskerFrisker
Member
So what are the odds that Nintendo will give this game some marketing in the west? Good-slim-none?
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
makingmusic476
Member
I still don't get the Scalebound deal. Kamiya said he wants Scalebound to have more "mass appeal" than his previous titles, but what's the point of aiming for mass appeal if you're pre-emptively dooming its sales through choice of platform?
The Bayonetta deal makes sense because it's the only way the game would've been made, and it's still catering to their hardcore fanbase (though the fans haven't followed them in very large numbers =().
I've got this and Hyrule Warriors pre-ordered. Amazon shipped my copy of the latter today!
The Bayonetta deal makes sense because it's the only way the game would've been made, and it's still catering to their hardcore fanbase (though the fans haven't followed them in very large numbers =().
*high fives*
I've got this and Hyrule Warriors pre-ordered. Amazon shipped my copy of the latter today!
The Last Wizard
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Ahahahahahahahah I need to go on dow
Sammy Samusu
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I see a lot of vocal fans in this thread.
Let's hope y'all have Bayonetta 2 booked and fully paid.
Let's hope y'all have Bayonetta 2 booked and fully paid.
marvelharvey
Member
I wasn't even aware it'd been released here
I'll be adding one more to the sales figure later today.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I don't know.
My hunch is that they were going to do this game some justice in regards to exposure as the buzz around the game is pretty loud(even if it's a loud minority) but hopefully this doesn't dissuade them.
They seem like they want to just put all their eggs in "one" basket ala Kart and next Smash and have DLC for them to keep them afloat.
With Hyrule Warriors and Smash coming shortly before, they'll really need to remind the public that the game is coming out if they want any chance of it selling well. It got its own Direct...almost two months before actual release. It'll be overshadowed if NoA doesn't put marketing muscle into this, and you and me know they just won't do it.
Prove me wrong, NoA....