Destiny |OT5| New patch out Tues., Master Rahool reportedly crying into his robes

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Can someone explain to me why do we get jack and shit for doing missions on heroic? Truly, what is the point?

You should be running missions on the easiest difficulty now. Since it's been confirmed that even a legendary engram can drop from a level 1 there is no point to running heroic missions. Also since the new hotfix today, if you die - your chances of getting an engram drop is lesser. More kills per minute and no deaths = more chance at loot.
 
All these future updates sound well and good, but a part of me was hoping all these "fixes" would come in a more timely manner. Also, I do still hope that some actual free content will come other than the paid expansions. Heck, just add more enemy variety to the current Strikes so they don't feel like the same experiences every time or create some more patrol missions for us to engage in.
 
Because marks will only get you inferior gear. You already need to have all the gear that the marks give you to do the raid. It's pointless.

This is true. However, it would be like in MMOs where you get actual gear or you get marks/comms to trade in for gear that make you perform better in said raid until you get the drops you need.

Where this falls on its head I think is the fact that gear can be upgraded.
 
Abandoned all my Queen orders, good job on making a fun event completely useless. I actually had fun running through the difficult story mission and the reward was nice, but they brought the rewards of it in line with everything else in the game: crap.
 
On one side, I'm kinda annoyed that shard farming from queen's gear has been nerfed, but on the other, I am so fucking glad I don't have to attempt to do 18 bounties a day then the 18 missions split between all my characters.
 
Its cute that Bungie are making the same mistakes every MMO/Grindtastic game dev makes. Instead of improving the game and fixing real issues, they patch harmless exploits that are allowing people some small relief from the incessant grind.

I'm really glad I didn't get the season pass. Its looking more and more like I'm not gonna care by the time the first dlc releases.
 
Considering how crappy the drop rate and loot system actually is with the cave being gone, I honestly wouldn't mind paying a dollar or two for a guaranteed Exotic as DLC at this rate.
You're in luck, there's a tentacle-faced weirdo who literally sells you exotic weapons and armor every weekend. Public events and Weekly Strikes get you currency to buy, no irl wallets to open! :-D


I'm still going to play the Queen's bounty in hopes of getting that nifty sniper rifle, no just won't be racing to do it as much.
 
I don't understand this game. The only purples I have are from the Queen. Never even seen a yellow. I'm not sure what I should be doing. Strikes? Crucible? Missions? What do I do? I'm so lost

Keep doing strikes/story and crucible. The loot will come...might not like most of it but it will come.
 
I don't understand this game. The only purples I have are from the Queen. Never even seen a yellow. I'm not sure what I should be doing. Strikes? Crucible? Missions? What do I do? I'm so lost

To get legendaries efficiently, focus on either Vanguard (PVE) or Crucible (PVP). Do your bounties every day when you can. You will quickly earn marks and reputation that will let you buy gear to supplement your Queen's gear.
 
Honestly, if Bungie didn't want players dismantling the queens Wrath rewards, they should have made more variety. So far I have gotten 4 chest pieces, 7 head pieces, and one sniper rifle. I know there's also a ship possible, but that's it. I almost laugh at the thought that Bungie believes that will keep the player base interested for 2 weeks. I'll still do the bounties, hopefully reaching lvl. 3 unlocks the legendary weapons they advertised, but now there's no point at all in doing the missions after lvl. 24.

Oh well, 5 days 'til Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor. I can make do until then.

I was fed up after getting 3 chest pieces in a row. Those missions are recycled shit anyway. Now that Shards are out, I see zero reason to waste any time here. The things you can buy from her are useless anyway.
 
On one side, I'm kinda annoyed that shard farming from queen's gear has been nerfed, but on the other, I am so fucking glad I don't have to attempt to do 18 bounties a day then the 18 missions split between all my characters.

'have to'

Sometimes I think I'm playing a different Destiny than a lot of people
 
I don't understand this game. The only purples I have are from the Queen. Never even seen a yellow. I'm not sure what I should be doing. Strikes? Crucible? Missions? What do I do? I'm so lost

If you've got all your gear from Queen's, you should start running strikes and crucible for Vanguard and Crucible Marks. You can use those to buy more gear once you have level 2 with a given faction.

Outside of that...Yeah, just run stuff for fun and hope you get goodies to dismantle to upgrade gear to get to light 26 so you can raid?
 
Can someone explain to me why do we get jack and shit for doing missions on heroic? Truly, what is the point? Jesuschrist we should at least get more XP depending on the level of the enemies, even if it's a sliver more.

Yeah, admittedly this surprised me after my first heroic, strange coins are nice, but absolutely no loot other than the random drops, which in turn brought about the whole loot cave craze. There is no point to pushing yourself in anything other than nightfall or raiding for loot...very disappointing.
 
Can someone explain to me why do we get jack and shit for doing missions on heroic? Truly, what is the point? Jesuschrist we should at least get more XP depending on the level of the enemies, even if it's a sliver more.


You should be running missions on the easiest difficulty now. Since it's been confirmed that even a legendary engram can drop from a level 1 there is no point to running heroic missions. Also since the new hotfix today, if you die - your chances of getting an engram drop is lesser. More kills per minute = more chance at loot.

You get 2 Ascendants for completing daily heroic on level 28, right?

Am I misunderstanding?
 
Oh, so light increases as well? It's not like that with regular legendary and exotic gear is it? I definitely haven't noticed if it is.

It is. You get 2 Light per armor upgrade on a legendary, except for the first upgrade in the final column (which is 1 Light). The raid item you have has 3 base Light higher than any other legendary in that slot, on par with an exotic.
 
Hey guys, I'm looking into putting a team together to challenge the level 30 version of the raid. I'm level 29 and I got a friend who's 29 as well. We're looking for four other level 29 soldiers to join us. If possible we would like to try it in a couple of hours. Who's in?

PSN: Wretched_Walrus

PS: It would be awesome if you could also join my clan (BulletLove), so we all get the clan raider trophy.
 
I don't understand this game. The only purples I have are from the Queen. Never even seen a yellow. I'm not sure what I should be doing. Strikes? Crucible? Missions? What do I do? I'm so lost

What level are you? I'd recommend doing Vanguard bounties and patrols until you get your Vanguard faction to rank 2, then doing the daily Heroic mission and the level 20+ strike playlists to farm emblems to buy Vanguard gear with. You'll get a decent number of blues along the way that have an okay-ish chance of being upgrades. And of course, do the Queen's Wrath stuff for purples if you're able.

Not gonna lie, it's an uphill battle.
 
I don't understand this game. The only purples I have are from the Queen. Never even seen a yellow. I'm not sure what I should be doing. Strikes? Crucible? Missions? What do I do? I'm so lost

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Put down the controller and come back when they fix the loot system.

Or use the loot system in place. I found it to be a pretty steady advancement, at least until I started to need ascendant shards.
 
Greetings Guardian...

There was a time when caves were much more powerful...
Guardians from all around would gather there to seek out very powerful gear...
There must be a way to bring it back, we can not give up hope...
The Hotfix is coming, we will not survive it this time...

fixed
 
Honestly?
I loved doing the cave grind
It seems weird, but it was fun

it was great actually getting gear on the reg. If IM going to invest hours in your game:give me something to show for it-

I spent about 8 hours with the loot cave these past few days- my exotic and legendary's thank your for your service old friend-you will be missed.
 
You get 2 Ascendants for completing daily heroic on level 28, right?

Am I misunderstanding?

yeah

if i were to run a story mission on level 24 or whatever just because i happen to like that mission (or if its accompanied by a bounty), there's no reward at completion. at all.

why lol
 
People would still farm the cave because it's a glitch and easier then intended. It's dissapointing how everyone complains that they don't have a full maxed out character 2 after the game came out. Play the game and have fun and you will get gear. I enjoy PvP so from just doing bounties and queen missions I'm like 1 piece away from full legendary set. Not that hard.

I'm pretty sure I beat the story and hit level 20 without receiving a single blue drop, let alone a purple. I'm not looking to max out my character a week after release, but I would like to be able to make SOME progress without relying in exploits. I simply don't have hours every day to play this and make progress on my character.
 
Well, the one reliable way to get Ascendant Shards is now gone. Good job to everyone who got dozens of Shards already, then. Completely fucks everyone else out of progression for months potentially, depending on how RNGesus smiles upon you. I'm sure this is exactly what people wanted!

Not only that, but making loot harder to get? That's wonderful! I'm glad Bungie really has their finger on the pulse of their community. People were just BEGGING for an even more ridiculous grind!

So how long do we have to wait until the Cryptarch gets fixed? Loot is even more scarce now, and the Cryptarch is still completely broken, so the only option is to grind like a madman on alts for marks? FUN.

(Really, what the fuck is going on? How could anyone think that this was a good idea? Patching the cave is fine, but lowering drop rates on Engrams, not fixing the Cryptarch for god knows how long, and removing the only reliable way to get Shards? Absolutely ridiculous. People were frustrated with the maddeningly slow progression before, imagine how they'll feel now! There needs to be a way to get shards that doesn't rely on RNG, because as it is, I almost always get Energy from the Ascendant quests, which is useless for progression. Marks can't be the only way to get gear that isn't RNG. Some kind of barter system needs to be added to the raid and the Nightfall, maybe one token per boss, per week, that can be used at a vendor for Shards, Energy, or a selection of raid gear - just like every other MMO ever. Even if you limit progression to one piece a week (or even one piece every two weeks) it would be better than the RNG bullshit that's in place currently. It's very clear that Bungie has no fucking idea what they're doing here.)

Good to see balance changes, but that's not going to matter much when everyone quits the game out of frustration because of the horribly broken loot system.
 
Its cute that Bungie are making the same mistakes every MMO/Grindtastic game dev makes. Instead of improving the game and fixing real issues, they patch harmless exploits that are allowing people some small relief from the incessant grind.

If they're harmless, why do they matter that they're getting patched out again?
 
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