Destiny |OT5| New patch out Tues., Master Rahool reportedly crying into his robes

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I'm sitting at 11 strange coins, I keep getting ascendant stuff from my first event of the day and I have the feeling I won't get 2 more for Xur's next visit.

Oh well, at least I have no incentive to spend all night doing queen shit anymore, so I can roll the equally shitty dice at strikes or something. l e l
 
So if we have a set of Vanguard armor, and the Queens gear won't dismantle into shards, then what's the point of doing the Queens bounty?
 
People that are complaining just don't understand how this game works. Bear with me. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason to go past level 28 unless you plan to do hard mode raid. Level 28 can get had with 28 ascendant shards, 3 mark armors, and 1 exotic from Xur. This can be done in 2 weeks. Hell, the only reason to go from 26 to 28 is the lvl 28 daily / nightfall / and heroic weekly.

The real problem is the loot is boring crapola. There is no reason to grind for anything because its all the same. Nothing does anything. In Diablo theres reasons to try to get perfect rolled items, complete sets, etc. There is zero meaningful difference between anyone level 28-30 doing any content as they all have the same tier of gear. When people hit level 28 they are ALL going to quit because there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LEFT to do after this except hard mode raid. There is no upgrade you can get outside of it, nothing you can buy with marks/rep/coins/motes. Game is 100% over. They removed the queen breakdowns because literally everyone was going to hit this point in 2 more days if they left it in and there is no content they have available for those players. This extends that deadline a week or two max, but the same problem is there regardless.
 
Don't come with just problems, come with solutions. What's your solution? Triple the amount of content in 3 weeks with a hotfix?

Not a game developer, sorry. Not my job. Perhaps Bungie shouldn't have aimed to release the game with light content in the first place? They're vets of the industry. Foresight is always good, especially when it's your job to read market trends and anticipate player reaction. Making a game notably light on both story and playable content will be noticed, noted, and harangued. Rightfully.

Many of the game's systems make me feel like this game was developed in a alternate universe where Vanilla WoW was somehow still relevant to modern design.
 
Long ago during development, the Cryptarch decoded engrams of a given color into gear of that same color. Early in 2014 we added randomness, both for better and worse, to the decrypting process. The result was that end-of-session engram decoding got a lot more exciting and the Cryptarch himself suddenly acquired a personality. Both of these experiences were positive additions to the game.
LOL @ bolded

Literally, always worse. 100% of the time.

Today, for instance, found a legendary engram... probably the first in ~4-5 days. Maybe longer... and probably the 25th overall.

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Blue titan level 16 butt towel.

LOL It actually is kind of funny...
 
so they fucking lowered engram drop rates ? what does that accomplish ? they closed the cave AND lowered drop rates

wtf is going on
 
Have you done the raid?

Have you received Ascendant Energy for every single drop except one?

Good luck getting to level 30 - I hope you're good at prayer, because now leveling to cap is 100% luck-based. No reliable way to get shards means it could take unlucky players MONTHS before they hit 30. Have fun!!!

Welp, my interest keeps going down. So instead of fixing their loot system, they made it even worse. Good job Bungie.
 
So is there some kind of wonky delay/lag when meleeing in the crucible. I keep using melee only to have the person not die until like 2 seconds after i knife them which usually ends up with them getting a hit in on me before they die sometimes killing me.

I noted this, was told been this way since Halo.
 
So if we have a set of Vanguard armor, and the Queens gear won't dismantle into shards, then what's the point of doing the Queens bounty?

None.

But I think its useful for players who don't have anything Legendary yet. Though they're likely on level or lower and need to party up. Or abuse Restoration but Bungie will address that too I guess.
 
I can't say I'm surprised they nerfed the cave. I used it twice for fifteen minutes or so but I was far too impatient. Hopefully the distribution of loot improves.

Bit disappointed that they've stopped the shards from discarding those legendary weapons though.
 
I have never seen a Strike drop a legendary or exotic and I have done dozens of them, many at 24. 1 in 20 or 30 Crucible matches may drop a legendary or exotic, and it will most likely go to someone else. You don't get gear rewards period for redoing high difficulty story missions. You are sending this guy on a wild goose chase.

Well, hold on there, your math is all messed up.

You're comparing what you see in a group of 3, to what you see in a group of 12. Even with just those numbers right there, you've already increased your chances of just SEEING an item by 300%.

The drops rates are the same, you're just seeing more rewards across a larger base.
 
I'm glad I have another place to farm which I enjoy more anyway. Can't take it away from me if I don't say where it is!
 
I don't understand. what exact is a hard reset

We believe a hard-reset to be whenever you die and have to respawn at an earlier checkpoint.

This happened a lot during loot farming runs, so now the game will reduce your chances of drops for a "short while" after you respawn, in an attempt to thwart farming.
 
We need two more players for the last boss of the raid.

We're all level 28.
3 Titans and a Hunter.

Please be 27+ and know the tactics.

Add me if you'd like to join us.
Psn: astropoff
 
Have you done the raid?

Have you received Ascendant Energy for every single drop except one?

Good luck getting to level 30 - I hope you're good at prayer, because now leveling to cap is 100% luck-based. No reliable way to get shards means it could take unlucky players MONTHS before they hit 30. Have fun!!!

Also, raids only give you stuff once a week right? So if you run through it twice in the same week, the chests will be empty? Is that correct, I remember reading that somewhere.
 
LOL @ bolded

Literally, always worse. 100% of the time.

Today, for instance, found a legendary engram... probably the first in ~4-5 days. Maybe longer... and probably the 25th overall.

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...


Blue titan level 16 butt towel.

LOL It actually is kind of funny...

Biggest load of horse shit I've ever read.
 
How are Vanguard/Crucible marks luck based...?

Well yeah, but if you ignore all the non luck based ways to do it, it's totally luck based. We'll never see another 30 again, at least not until January or February of next yet at the earliest.

sarcasm
 
Bungie even nerfed the Earth location for the Queens missions. I can't get it anymore, tried 8 times now. Yesterday it was taking me two restarts max.
 
I'm actually kind of glad they patched the easy shards out of the Queen's event. I found this really boring but I felt like I had to do it or I was missing out on something really valuable. Still might do a couple more to try to get a helmet with better stats, but it won't be a priority.
 
I gotta ask: Where are people reading that they lowered engram drop rates game-wide apart from the temporary decrease following a wipe? It's not in the patch notes, so are people thinking that it's an undocumented change based on playing normal stuff after the patch?
 
so they fucking lowered engram drop rates ? what does that accomplish ? they closed the cave AND lowered drop rates

wtf is going on

no.

they made it so drop rates on engrams are lower if you get hard wiped for a short time so people don't farm areas in strikes. The reward screen at the end is not affected.
 
I'd just like to point out that in the video listed under VIP Patrols the guy gets a Thunderlord at the end of the boss battle...

Bungie... that
s now how your game turned out.
 
So 2 of us are looking to do the raid tonight, starting around 7 EDT. One of us has experience up to the last boss and the other one hasn't run it yet. If anyone is interested in joining or showing us how its done PM me here or send me a message on PSN (saveweyard there too).
 
so they fucking lowered engram drop rates ? what does that accomplish ? they closed the cave AND lowered drop rates

wtf is going on

A developer new to loot systems making amateurish mistakes. It's pretty common honestly. I'm sure in a few months they'll wake up and realize the loot system needs an overhaul. Maybe sooner if people start abandoning the game.
 
Bungie even nerfed the Earth location for the Queens missions. I can't get it anymore, tried 8 times now. Yesterday it was taking me two restarts max.

It's just that shitty RNG, I've tried about 16 times over the last 2 nights and have yet to get it.
 
I gave loot cave a week, it took three days from then. Shoulda taken the under.

I've enjoyed strikes but generally hated the bosses, due to how grindy they are. So I hope the damage fix is a substantial one. Bosses should be a burst of challenge, not a sustained exercise in patience. Glad to see the voice communication issues being addressed in some way as well. It REALLY needs it in the Tower, though.

Overall good patch notes and I'm impressed with the pace; this is the second hotfix this week. Hopefully it keeps up.

Not addressed is their selective matchmaking choices, but hopefully that gets some discussion later on.
 
When people hit level 28 they are ALL going to quit because there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LEFT to do after this except hard mode raid.

I'm level 28, I'm playing daily. I guess I'm not people?

You're hilariously wrong about the loot too, but I'm not going to bother arguing with you about it. Either you enjoy playing the game or you don't.
 
I'm still pumped to play this later today and this weekend, but I'll admit the Queen's stuff being nerfed is disappointing, I haven't been able to play since the weekend and was excited for it.

I'm glad they recognize the flaws in the game, but I don't think they recognize the correct solutions for them, as well as which ones to prioritize. That may sound harsh, and it is considering the game isn't even 3 weeks old, but my god some of the design decisions are truly baffling.
 
Bungie even nerfed the Earth location for the Queens missions. I can't get it anymore, tried 8 times now. Yesterday it was taking me two restarts max.

I have tried 10 times over the last few days and never got the Earth mission. Don't post stuff like "bungie nerfed this" unless you know its true.
 
So they get shit for saying nothing and get shit for admitting they fucked up a few things and are fixing it.

Nice paradigm you got there.

Sorry, what? They're not being shit on for admitting they messed up. They're being shit on for messing up. The MMO thing isn't new and they're, technically, in competition with people who've been around for awhile and have already learned how to do things. In other words, they could've looked at other games and learned this.

Why are you twisting it?
 
so they fucking lowered engram drop rates ? what does that accomplish ? they closed the cave AND lowered drop rates

wtf is going on

Don't worry my friend, it will only hurt for a little while... improvements are coming "soon"... you don't need any loot until then.
 
Seconded - sitting at level 20. WAT DO?

Just work on your rep and marks for Vanguard and Crucible. Strikes, patrols, or PvP. At rank 2 in either faction you can buy their armor. Save up some coins for Xur who will show up in ~14 hours and potentially buy an exotic armor slot. You can be 3 purple + 1 exotic armor slot in less than a week if he has a helm you can use. Otherwise you'll need a minimum of 8 days to roll over on the weekly marks caps.
 
I'm glad I have another place to farm which I enjoy more anyway. Can't take it away from me if I don't say where it is!

Take my purps, take my land
nerf the cave I where used to stand
I don't mind, I'm still free
you can't take the farm from meeeee
 
Funny enough I'll probably still play today for a bit to level up my scout with bountie and do one public event. After that I'm probably done for the day unless somebody specifically wants to play with me.
 
Yea, it's that way with all light gear.
Is there a way to tell what the upgrade to armor will be once it's leveled, kinda like weapons? For instance, what the light level starts at, compared to what it would be with defense fully leveled?

Disappointed in thread title, should've been

Cave-in, bought Legendary
It was something similar, the Bungie update prompted a title change. :-(
 
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