Oh sorry, I probably should have explained, everyone who is 30 right now leveled 3 of the same class in order to run the raid multiple times and just swap all the gear to the main character to level him up.
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Oh sorry, I probably should have explained, everyone who is 30 right now leveled 3 of the same class in order to run the raid multiple times and just swap all the gear to the main character to level him up.
RNG = random number generator, he's describing how many outcomes of the game (such as loot) are based on "random" numbers in general
TheCanisDirus
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THIS. Oh god, why doesn't this piss more people off? Playing the same damn missions over and over for different "events" and such?! Fucking serious!? And they even include the same cut-scenes and dialog? Lazy lazy lazy.
BreezyLimbo
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Yeah, RNG is definitely a make or break for alot of people.
I've told this story before, but I remember saving 3 legendary engrams from doing something(Forgot what it was, PvP I think?), and turning them all in with my eyes closed. I got 2 exotics out of that and a blue.
It sucks to think that there's someone out there who's played this game fervently but hasn't had the same luck. It makes me feel bad for them.
That would be all well and good if you didn't have a 50% chance to get Energy, which is completely useless for progression.
I have gotten Energy for three of the past four daily missions, which means that on average, a week, I'm getting around 4 Shards for dailies. It costs SEVEN for a two-light upgrade on the raid gear. Four light PER MONTH. That's one level EVERY THREE MONTHS.
That doesn't strike you as completely ridiculous?
The Librarian
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I set you up for a joke with a .gif response and you failed me
CloudyTuba
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Everyone complains about lack of loot. Bungie reduced drop rate of engrams.
People say buy your own and dont rely on engrams. Bungie eliminates ascendant materials from Queen's wrath.
Game is supposed to be social. Bungie patches out the most social location in the game.
People complain about not having enough wild encounters. Bungie reduces the respawn rate at the few places who have plentiful encounters.
Was anyone really complaining about the Loot Cave? Or the drop rates? Or about getting materials from Queen's wrath? Were these things that anyone actually wanted "fixed"? Who are these fixes meant to please? Is this making the game more enjoyable for anyone?
And yet all the fixes people are actually almost unanimously begging for are ignored. Bungie needs to stop yelling "youre not playing it right!" and analyze why people arent playing it "right."
Basically.
cpp_is_king
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I actually will have fun, no need to worry about that. Welcome to every MMO ever, where what drops you get is random.
There are only two reasons to be above 28 really; hard mode raid and Iron Banner (and I don't know how Light damage penalty applies in PvP anyway).
HAHA I was just thinking the same thing!
Queen's Wrath mission a minute ago. Me and my friend do the whole thing from start to finish (quite difficult considering he's level 22), another friend pops in a minute before completion and kills literally zero enemies. We get the standard issue gear from the Queen, late guy gets that and a great Legendary Sniper Rifle. This game man...
ethomaz
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I got maybe 10-12 shards and a Legendary weapon in maybe 2 hours.
ComputerBlue
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Yeah might be to be honest. Next time I run through it I don't want to be doing any of the shield business. I think I'm missing out on a lot of potential drops because half the time I'm not killing anything.
First time around I got 2 blues and some greens, second time was one blue and some greens. Is that low?
I think lowering the amount of shards you received for breaking down the Queen's gear would have been better than stopping it entirely. Ultimately, we're just doing harder missions and getting the same 3 items over and over again. Why would anyone continue doing these bounties? I already have legendary and exotic equipped and the one chest that I liked the stats for was just really ugly. Like1980s ugly. I couldn't do that to my Titan. I did get the Queen's sniper which I decided to keep.
They could have removed the 5 minute Restoration mission from the rotation and offered more random items from doing these bounties. I was enjoying them and the rewards (shards) were totally worth it. But now I have no reason to keep doing them and I won't. I'm sure this will still help out others so I won't get pissy about it but for me, I'm done with the Queen's Wrath and that's unfortunate.
Yeah, a part of me wants proximity chat since I do strikes with randoms, but I'm also not looking forward to the inevitable trash.
cpp_is_king
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the highest one, so I got all the coins. I know there's other ways to get coins (non guaranteed), does anyone have any idea which is the most likely to yield coins? Like the most efficient over time?
This is a MMO made by people who have no clue what a MMO is.
Admiral Woofington
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This relationship of ours has been in the rocks for a while anyways. It's not you it's me. The abusive insults haven't been coming as consistently and that really bothers me.
But hey. Well always have that crouch fight in the tower.
ethomaz
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Disagree !!!
Warlock, Sunsinger is the best one !
It's a suggestion for the OT6
I admit that is fun :
Destiny |OT6| Praise the Sun
KiefbladeMaster
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I've heard they drop pretty steadily in the Vault of Glass. A combination of methods would probably work best. Raiding, Nightfall, heroics + dismantling stuff.
The Librarian
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They have a clue, albeit not a good one. One of the design leads is a Vanilla WoW fanboy, which explains a lot of the progression decisions in this game.
Their news update today sounded like they had a pretty good idea of what's wrong and how to potentially fix it.
That said, it's really unfortunate that they decided to roll out the frustrating nerfs right away and leave the badly needed improvements for "the near future." Bungie should either leave us with our loopholes until they're prepared to offer something better, or give us some kind of band-aid until then.
We have no idea when the nerf is coming and there is a cap of 200 marks. Just buy the AR
.AmateurHour212
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Man, you are so pessimistic about everything. You ok? You come in here to bitch and moan consistently and talk down about the game and Bungie. Hopefully it's making you feel better or something, but damn, quit bitching all the time. If you really feel as you say you do, stop coming here, stop playing the game, and sell it.
You want to be a productive contributor, talk solutions.
blazeuk
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So I got a golden bounty for the first time. Had to finish a strike without dying for five times, did that. Now I have to kill 25 enemys and not die on the crucible or something. today I looked up online what the end reward is... a shotgun. I wanted an auto rifle.
I don't think any of the exotic bounties give an auto rifle, so it wouldn't really matter what one you chose. The Invective shotgun is decent enough though, I'm not entirely convinced on the auto mode with it but I guess it just takes some getting used to. It was a fairly easy bounty to do as well, it was only the 5 strikes thing which was boring more than anything.
MADGAME
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Wrong. Iron Banner.
You mean you don't like random adolescent males telling you what they did/will do to your mother/sister? Can't imagine why...
Diablohead
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I've read the notes in full, what's this about engram wipes?
Smart. Crafty bastards. I had a hunch this would work but I decided to wait.
From the raid? What did you get from completeing bosses/encounters?
NullPointer
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All I know is my usual fireteam group has been making steady progress at leveling, and the Queen's Bounty legendaries helped all of us - but we haven't been rushing or farming - just playing strikes and the dailies and doing bounties - because dammit the game is still fun ;p
I'm not sure what Bungie intends as far as gathering materials though - so we've just made a point of picking up what we can whenever we run a strike - when we move between the landing zone and the start of the mission.
I'm not sure what Bungie intends as far as gathering materials though - so we've just made a point of picking up what we can whenever we run a strike - when we move between the landing zone and the start of the mission.
Gotcha, thanks.
They're trying to control the content drip. I guess if people are still going too quickly, slow down the drip even more.
So everyone who was able to play Tuesday, Wednesday, and this morning, and was able to do the Queen's bounties twice, finish the orders, and shard the gear was able to get, what, 72 to 108 shards? Enough for level 29, maybe even 30?
And those of us who haven't had a chance have lost it and need to grind for fucking weeks to get the same result? That's shitty Bungie. Put some foresight into your work. What the hell did you think people were going to do 6 missions a day for if not for the shards? What is the point? Why did it take three days to figure that out?
I really don't feel like getting on tonight seeing as I missed the one thing I was really looking forward to doing. Playing with people who I was the same level with last weekend and am now weeks behind doesn't sound like fun.
And those of us who haven't had a chance have lost it and need to grind for fucking weeks to get the same result? That's shitty Bungie. Put some foresight into your work. What the hell did you think people were going to do 6 missions a day for if not for the shards? What is the point? Why did it take three days to figure that out?
I really don't feel like getting on tonight seeing as I missed the one thing I was really looking forward to doing. Playing with people who I was the same level with last weekend and am now weeks behind doesn't sound like fun.
everyday math
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I got 4 ascendant energy 2 shards and a shader. The rng was not with me at all that day. Happy I beat the raid tho.
Why am I singled out in a thread full of people bitching again? Oh, right. You have an axe to grind with me. Go yell at someone else with your petty garbage.
The Shogun
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So anyone else thinking Mercury will be coming in an expansion? They have that Multi player map so have already put some design thought into the setting.
you're no mmrasu
This reminds me of a lot of the early PSO rage when Sega went in and cleaned out everyone's duped items.
Sega had implemented a check for duped weapons and people figured out if you stashed them away in storage you could take them out once you were in an instanced game and use duped weapons.
They hot-patched a fix and deleted all of them and the PSO community went nuts because everyone had these killer weapons and then didn't (Spread Needle was only a prize in a Japan only tournament IIRC, yet everyone was rocking one).
In the long run, it makes for a better game to clear these quick fix cheats. The game that is destiny is based on a long grind to get there, finding a way to exploit it to get stuff quicker isn't in any ones best interest. It might mean the game wasn't for you to begin with, but it's better for the health and economy of Destiny as a whole moving forward.
3 months from now no one would be playing a game where you shot at a cave for 5 hours straight.
Sega had implemented a check for duped weapons and people figured out if you stashed them away in storage you could take them out once you were in an instanced game and use duped weapons.
They hot-patched a fix and deleted all of them and the PSO community went nuts because everyone had these killer weapons and then didn't (Spread Needle was only a prize in a Japan only tournament IIRC, yet everyone was rocking one).
In the long run, it makes for a better game to clear these quick fix cheats. The game that is destiny is based on a long grind to get there, finding a way to exploit it to get stuff quicker isn't in any ones best interest. It might mean the game wasn't for you to begin with, but it's better for the health and economy of Destiny as a whole moving forward.
3 months from now no one would be playing a game where you shot at a cave for 5 hours straight.
ComputerBlue
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Same as everyone else, shader, shards, a weapon etc.
I'm talking about engram drops though.
ethomaz
Banned
I forgot the shader... I'm using it because it is a beautiful color.
Yeah, this game has done a lot for people who caught things before they are fixed. People bought a load of strange coins from Xur before they quickly removed it, and now people who either didn't/couldn't play much and were waiting for the weekend got massively screwed over on the Queen event.
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