Destiny |OT5| New patch out Tues., Master Rahool reportedly crying into his robes

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I don't really think it needs to be though. It still takes some skill to use it, you can't always just activate Bladedancer and run across the map to a group of people. You need to use it at the right time because you can still get taken out easily.

Dunno about that, I can't even tell you how many times I've shotgunned a Bladedancer to the face once or twice and they still didn't die.
 
I think the simplicity of these changes is VASTLY overrated.

Obviously Bungie has a design and a philosophy of how they want Destiny to play currently and over time. Fixes that they implement must fit into that design and that philosophy. They're not just going to engineer fixes that break the design or compromise that philosophy. Fixes need to be thought of in this greater context, not just completely by themselves and I'm sure it will take time and missteps and multiple fixes to engineer proper solutions.

It's fine that people speak from their own self-interests but at least we should acknowledge that Bungie have both their own set of interests and have to look towards the interests of gamers and sets of gamers outside of us. Just because fix X is great for Gaffers, doesn't mean it's what's best for the game, either now or in the long run.
please

the entire queen's wrath event and immediate nerf/fix just shows that bungie doesn't even know what THEY want lol
 
The more I read about the grind and experience the lack of content the more I want to sell the game and buy a better game.

I still like the multiplayer and I never sold a game before but there are some upcoming games that I wish I had spent my money on. Games were the main component isn't "do the same missions over and over again".
 
He wasn't talking about the Treasure Cave, unsure why you brought it up. What he said was completely right. Bungie awarded Legendaries for mission completion, Legendaries dismantle into Ascendants. The player just did it a lot, he didn't exploit. Honestly, people assumed it was intended by Bungie to help players out!

Although, because this is a discussion thread, even the Treasure Cave is borderline on exploit status. Compared to past MMO exploits, it's low tier in terms of the player breaking the game or the skill it took to figure it out. The Nexus and We've Woken the Hive ones are further up the ladder, but really, all of three are just taking advantage of the design of the game.

I compared it because the christmas cave is no glitch. It's the system working as intended. It's just that people assume Bungie didn't intend on people using it in that way so most people call it an exploit.

The Queens Wraith thing I now refer to as an exploit because it's just like the loot cave. Everything is working as programmed, but it's apparent now Bungie didn't intend on people using it to level up quick or else they would have kept it up.
 
Hosting weekly heroic strike right now! Want to do either lvl 26 or 28, depending on lvl of players. I'm lvl 28. Send a pm here or psn request to join.

9 strange coins, easy!

Psn: rogo
 
True, but how do you solve this "issue" when the loot after level 20 is directly tied to progress? Your level determines your access to endgame content, and your level is determined by your loot.

Right, but the raid/strike itself should be fun right?

Like, if you are having fun why does it matter if you level in a week or in 3 months?
 
The loot is real!

Just opened a chest while patrolling Venus

6X Spirit Bloom
1x Special Ammo Synthesis
2X Blue Engrams
400 Glimmer

Don't mind if I do :)

I got a similarly good chest on the Moon earlier today, 2 blue engrams, 8 helium filaments and a special ammo synthesis.
 
I'm throwing in the towel on this one. Going back to Warframe and Diablo. I don't care what anyone says, Warframe is superior in every way to do this game. I'll take my F2P game with actual progression that makes sense, unique arsenal of weapons, several unique classes, and best of all, skippable cut-scenes.

I don't even care they fixed the loot cave because I hardly ever used it, and have no reason to use at my current level, anyway, but by now they could have fixed some of the glaring issues plaguing this game that caused the loot cave to even be a thing in the first place. I'm convinced Bungie is a studio I should avoid now, they clearly don't know what to do, and they are deceitful.

Give it some time. Destiny is better than Warframe was in its first month.
 
Saw this on reddit, might be old, but I love it:

http://gfycat.com/OffbeatLoathsomeCricket

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perfect
 
"I'm leaving the thread" rants have been juvenile since forever. Don't encourage this nonsense.

Oh it didn't feel like a "I'm leaving the thread" at all, it doesn't say anything resembling that anywhere in it, it just explained the current endgame perfectly.

edit- oops i guess it does, i went back and reread the parts that didn't concern destiny
 
You have to do both. Making a gun work different in different modes will make for a huge mess.

Not true at all, but they'd have to do an overhaul.

For example, make it so that exotics cannot be used in PVP. Now you can do whatever the hell you want with them. Want them to have an upgrade that makes every shot a homing missle? Want to make each shot of a handcannon leave behind a pool of lava for a few seconds that deals damage over time? Want to make a sniper that has a lock-on? You can do it now.
 
Dunno about that, I can't even tell you how many times I've shotgunned a Bladedancer to the face once or twice and they still didn't die.

Well it depends how good they are at using it. If you activate it when you're right in the middle of a group or right around the corner from them, they're done.

But if you activate it from far away and have to run to them, usually that's enough to take them out. I've used Bladedancer quite a bit and it's really not as OP as people think.
 
Good, nerf the AR, I was destroying bads with the scout rifle already.

Kind of sad to see AR getting nerfed but it will allow me to use my only primary legendary weapon, a scout rifle. Not sure how much it's nerfed cause after the update I was still doing work with the shingen.

I'm a half circle away from rank 4 in the crucible and I'm still waiting for a legendary or exotic AR drop.
 
WHY THE HELL DID THEY STOP LEGENDARY ITEMS FROM DROPPING ASCENDANT SHARDS WHEN DISMANTLED. At least the Queens stuff, if not everything.

GNASADHOIRAKNAJDSJAPO.

Well I'm never hitting level 28. Was going to do a Queen's bounty later today to break down one more piece for the 3 shards that I need to upgrade my gear to the next level.
 
Yeah, this is pretty accurate, good post my friend. Especially the part about busting you ass on a heroic (non-nightfall) strike, just to get some coins. Give these bosses loot tables that are bound to them and people will run the instance. You can even make it to where you can only run a strike on heroic once a day for a chance at loot. That way people have a reason to log on and run a strike, but they don't feel like they HAVE to grind for it if it's only once a day you can run it.

Giving each raid bosses loot tables, and more importantly, loot tables that scale with difficulty, it'd give people more of a reason to run them. I know it sure as hell would give me a reason to go back to strikes I may not have wanted to run again.

If the drop chance is super low, but it's there then people will go. You'll learn new tricks, new tactics, new methods and it'll give the strikes more life.

At the minute, like you said, there isn't all that much of a reason to run them if you aren't super pumped to do it.

But I don't think it'd work without a wider variety of loot. Considering how much gear/loot factors into the game I hope Bungie make it a big priority to get more in there. Some of the exotics are a great example of awesome looking gear that I want more of.
 
The loot is real!

Just opened a chest while patrolling Venus

6X Spirit Bloom
1x Special Ammo Synthesis
2X Blue Engrams
400 Glimmer

Don't mind if I do :)

i've had similar once on Earth, 12x spinmetal, ammo synth, 200 glimmer and a blue engram. i randomly got 10 helium on the moon in one chest yesterday, no other bonuses.
 
WHY THE HELL DID THEY STOP LEGENDARY ITEMS FROM DROPPING ASCENDANT SHARDS WHEN DISMANTLED.

GNASADHOIRAKNAJDSJAPO.

Well I'm never hitting level 28. Was going to do a Queen's bounty later today to break down one more piece for the 3 shards that I need to upgrade my gear to the next level.
IT'S ONLY FUCKING QUEEN ITEMS
 
No shards from Queen Legendaries is straight up Bullshit. Hey Bungie maybe people wouldn't have resorted to dismantling them if upgrade mats were more reliable to get find. I've played for fifty hours and only got one shard that wasn't from the Queen's items. How the hell am I supposed to progress when the only thing that let's me progress is so rare?
 
This game has officially become a fucking mess. Level 27 Hunter with 45+ hours into the game, I have no idea what the hell I'm supposed to be doing now.

The people playing it have no idea what they want.
The people making the game have no idea what they want to make.


Been fun meeting with peeps from GAF though.
Let's see how this game shapes up throughout the last of 2014. So much potential but after the Sept 30 influx of games comes, Destiny will be put on the back burner. So many issues plaguing it right now.
 
please

the entire queen's wrath event and immediate nerf/fix just shows that bungie doesn't even know what THEY want lol
Personally, the Queen's Wrath nerf doesn't 100% make sense to me but neither you or I see all the data, the big picture. Just because we don't know the purpose, doesn't mean there isn't one. And, it doesn't mean there is one either but, whether it succeeds or not, I'm sure they had a goal in mind.
 
Right, but the raid/strike itself should be fun right?

Like, if you are having fun why does it matter if you level in a week or in 3 months?

I think some of the issues lie in that some of the strikes aren't all that fun in repetition. To say nothing of the fact that dungeons should prepare you for the raid. Throwing the kitchen sink at you is bad design when you aren't taught anything. Even Dark Souls teaches you organically through gameplay. Destiny doesn't.
 
it was already confirmed that it's for a "short period"

still people don't do weekly or nightfall strikes for engram drops and that's applies even more for the 24 playlist

The lower drop rate only lasts for a short period?

Also, I agree with you. No one is doing these things for engrams, but it's nice when they drop. It's always nice to pick them up, and end each raid with a few to see what I get and rank of the Cryptard. Making them drop less often in every strike after a wipe happens seems like a bad approach to fix a few farm spots.
 
Just checking this thread for the first time today and it seems like some shit went down. Can anyone fill me in? I'm on mobile and don't feel like going back like 6 pages.

Bungie changed the Queen's bounties, no more ascendent shards or anything dropping from legendaries acquired from Queen's Wrath missions.

Cave farming is nerfed.

They also put out an update saying they are working on fixing a lot of the things people are complaining about, i.e. Cryptfart and engrams, which is good.
 
So everyone who was able to play Tuesday, Wednesday, and this morning, and was able to do the Queen's bounties twice, finish the orders, and shard the gear was able to get, what, 72 to 108 shards? Enough for level 29, maybe even 30?

And those of us who haven't had a chance have lost it and need to grind for fucking weeks to get the same result? That's shitty Bungie. Put some foresight into your work. What the hell did you think people were going to do 6 missions a day for if not for the shards? What is the point? Why did it take three days to figure that out?

I really don't feel like getting on tonight seeing as I missed the one thing I was really looking forward to doing. Playing with people who I was the same level with last weekend and am now weeks behind doesn't sound like fun.

Welcome to MMOs, where the cardinal rule is Exploit Early and Exploit Often.

It's why experienced MMO developers know that WHEN you patch an exploit is even more important than the actual act of patching it.
 
This game has officially become a fucking mess. Not only because of the latest patch. Level 27 Hunter with 45+ hours into the game, I have no idea what the hell I'm supposed to be doing now.

The people playing it have no idea what they want.
The people making the game have no idea what they want to make.


Been fun meeting with peeps from GAF though.
Let's see how this game shapes up throughout the last of 2014. So much potential but after the Sept 30 influx of games comes, Destiny will be put on the back burner So many issues plaguing it right now.

Indeed, the launch has been rough, I'd say. Severe lack of content and rewards. Going to take a break and wait and see if things get better.
 
FYI I just hit 28 and the only thing I maxxed was my gauntlets. I spent some shards on my boots but haven't done any shard upgrades on my chest piece or helm.

Huh, really? It doesn't feel like leveling my helmet will push me very far but I haven't really looked at the number breakdowns.
 
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