Alcoholikaust
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with the tidal wave of games dropping within the next 2 months I'll come back to destiny after first DLC fixes the game. (hopefully)
Destiny |OT5| New patch out Tues., Master Rahool reportedly crying into his robes
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They kind of addressed that too
Reluctant-Hero
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Rose Gold:
Okay, that is really nice. Now I'm definitely motivated to keep up with the event. But is rose gold locked to rank 1 or 2 of the Queen's faction?
Please, you're talking about the company that described removing majors in moon missions as a means to putting a stop to glimmer farming as a "difficulty reduction". Bungie is full of themselves.
Jest Chillin
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If you had been paying attention to the forums and, well, the rest of the internet.. plenty of people were led to believe they would have better luck with their drops from the cave. In fact there were many posts that simply said "Got 3 Legendaries today from the cave" or "In my first 20 minutes at the cave I got a Legendary Engram and it turned into an Exotic!" Nobody expressly pointed out that the odds of decrypting were the same there as everywhere else, so there were plenty of people who went to the cave expecting it to ACTUALLY be this nirvana of engrams that would decrypt to high gear more often.
And yes, more kills per nets more engrams per on average by the nature of the game. But I absolutely know that people would still park in front of that cave regardless of how engaging the other content is because it's been proven over and over and over that given the choice, the majority of people will take the path of least resistance with all else being the same. This is pretty much a fact of human nature. This EXACT thing has happened with the Queens Wrath Missions where everyone would rather Return to Orbit and try to get Restoration again, than spend the time to do the harder and longer missions (some of which actually have pretty cool fights).
Happens every once in a while.
KINGofCRA5H
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I asked earlier and a few people have said 2am PST. Which is good.
FloatingDivider
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This might be my departing post because I just feel like I'm done. It's unrelated to the cave being closed because I stopped farming a good while ago, since that shit is just degrading to your soul. It being patched does bother me however because the underlying issue remains unadressed and the only news for the future consists of a vague "we're working on it".
They act like there is an economy that needs to be checked and balanced, but there isn't. Nobody is being hurt by me being able to reach lvl 28 because I managed to complete the queens quest several times. Nobody would be hurt by me finding a good legendary auto rifle since everything is theoretically supposed to be balanced. There is no reason for the game to be as pedantic about everything as it is. It's honestly the most frustrating game I've ever played. It feels like this game actively wants to make me think about why I'm playing it, and the more I do the more I realize I don't want to anymore.
Because I've spent 3 days 12 hours 15minutes and 36 seconds playing this game and I feel like I could have stopped at 20 hours and had the same experience. I don't know why I've played this game as obsessively as I have but I shouldn't have. It's not worth it. Maybe it's because it's the first shooter with very tight controls on the ps4 but fuck me I can't deal with this progression system. I've maxed out marks and gotten up to 27, I have the shards for 28(thanks queen) but I realized gathering the materials would mean atleast several more hours of running around shooting lvl 8 dregs and opening chests. I don't enjoy doing that at all but I've spent more hours than I'd like to admit on each of the planets doing exactly that. During that time I don't think I've interacted in a socially meaningful way at all. I guess I've spent 5 minutes in between chest runs shooting at a bulletsponge with some other guys, but I'm fairly sure none of us were really into it. I've done all of the farms, grinded all of the marks and hit every unnanounced cap this game has to offer. Including the 200 marks cap, which keeps counting your marks earned despite you being unable to earn more.
I enjoy playing the harder (more bullshitty content) but there is no reward for it, and it is actually less efficient then cranking down the difficulty and blowing through everything. As an added issue I've grown tired of most of it. I run past 80% of the encounters in the pve section of the game because they are a waste of time and end up only killing the enemy I have a bounty for or the boss so I can get my marks/rep. I've done every mission so many times that I know exactly where to stand to survive 95% of all encounters unscathed. I can finish most missions/strikes while watching episodes of star trek. I rarely get off of my hoverbike before the first press square to proceed moment of every strike. Honestly I feel like a drone going through motions, chasing some sort of machinated carrot that doesn't exist.
I enjoy the pvp, I want different weapons though but unfortunately I have to grind more rep to purchase them or hope the random loot gods comply. Meanwhile I've used this legendary scout rifle for 40+ hours, I've switched in some other stuff that's less efficient to level them up but it's been pretty much that scout rifle I got when I was level 18 two weeks ago from a random blue engram. I was going to get a purple gun from the crucible dude when I hit lvl 3, (initially 2 but the mark cap put a stop to that, because that would have been too ridiculous right) but I don't want to do this same punch twenty dudes bounty again. In fact I don't want to do anything again because it's the same shit in the same toilet like some fucking looney toons version of the end of tomorrow.
I don't want to do this again because I do feel entitled. I do feel like I deserve to enjoy myself and make meaningful progress towards a goal everytime I launch a game. I do feel like I should be able to get ascendant shards in an easy to understand controllable fashion, that is not overly time consuming or ridiculously specific like running around with 3 alts at specific times to complete a public event where the same walker I shot three times previously falls from the sky. I do feel like I deserve to have a sizeable arsenal of different guns to use should it strike my fancy to do so, where each offers a meaningful difference from the previous one. What I've gotten however is 20 Shingen-E's, 50 Sidewinder shotguns, and a bunch of stuff I honestly don't care about. If you make a loot game you need a variety, if you don't have variety your loot game is dead in the water. But this is besides the point.
I'll say this again, I've spent 3 days 12 hours 15minutes and 36 seconds playing this game in the short time it's been available. But I can't anymore, I'm just fucking done. This game is a treadmill, but the goal distances are set for some arbitrary point in spacetime and you may or may not get what you want when you get there. I have a 600+ game backlog, and I'm sure 80%+ of those games will treat my time with more respect than destiny will. I'm just going to go play some of those.
My final remark is that I don't understand why they'd do this. If I burned out because I got all the legendaries and got all of the exotics I wanted I would have quit a much happier man. I probably would have returned for some more when the DLC launched. As it stands I'm just so fucking done I'm probably never returning.
They act like there is an economy that needs to be checked and balanced, but there isn't. Nobody is being hurt by me being able to reach lvl 28 because I managed to complete the queens quest several times. Nobody would be hurt by me finding a good legendary auto rifle since everything is theoretically supposed to be balanced. There is no reason for the game to be as pedantic about everything as it is. It's honestly the most frustrating game I've ever played. It feels like this game actively wants to make me think about why I'm playing it, and the more I do the more I realize I don't want to anymore.
Because I've spent 3 days 12 hours 15minutes and 36 seconds playing this game and I feel like I could have stopped at 20 hours and had the same experience. I don't know why I've played this game as obsessively as I have but I shouldn't have. It's not worth it. Maybe it's because it's the first shooter with very tight controls on the ps4 but fuck me I can't deal with this progression system. I've maxed out marks and gotten up to 27, I have the shards for 28(thanks queen) but I realized gathering the materials would mean atleast several more hours of running around shooting lvl 8 dregs and opening chests. I don't enjoy doing that at all but I've spent more hours than I'd like to admit on each of the planets doing exactly that. During that time I don't think I've interacted in a socially meaningful way at all. I guess I've spent 5 minutes in between chest runs shooting at a bulletsponge with some other guys, but I'm fairly sure none of us were really into it. I've done all of the farms, grinded all of the marks and hit every unnanounced cap this game has to offer. Including the 200 marks cap, which keeps counting your marks earned despite you being unable to earn more.
I enjoy playing the harder (more bullshitty content) but there is no reward for it, and it is actually less efficient then cranking down the difficulty and blowing through everything. As an added issue I've grown tired of most of it. I run past 80% of the encounters in the pve section of the game because they are a waste of time and end up only killing the enemy I have a bounty for or the boss so I can get my marks/rep. I've done every mission so many times that I know exactly where to stand to survive 95% of all encounters unscathed. I can finish most missions/strikes while watching episodes of star trek. I rarely get off of my hoverbike before the first press square to proceed moment of every strike. Honestly I feel like a drone going through motions, chasing some sort of machinated carrot that doesn't exist.
I enjoy the pvp, I want different weapons though but unfortunately I have to grind more rep to purchase them or hope the random loot gods comply. Meanwhile I've used this legendary scout rifle for 40+ hours, I've switched in some other stuff that's less efficient to level them up but it's been pretty much that scout rifle I got when I was level 18 two weeks ago from a random blue engram. I was going to get a purple gun from the crucible dude when I hit lvl 3, (initially 2 but the mark cap put a stop to that, because that would have been too ridiculous right) but I don't want to do this same punch twenty dudes bounty again. In fact I don't want to do anything again because it's the same shit in the same toilet like some fucking looney toons version of the end of tomorrow.
I don't want to do this again because I do feel entitled. I do feel like I deserve to enjoy myself and make meaningful progress towards a goal everytime I launch a game. I do feel like I should be able to get ascendant shards in an easy to understand controllable fashion, that is not overly time consuming or ridiculously specific like running around with 3 alts at specific times to complete a public event where the same walker I shot three times previously falls from the sky. I do feel like I deserve to have a sizeable arsenal of different guns to use should it strike my fancy to do so, where each offers a meaningful difference from the previous one. What I've gotten however is 20 Shingen-E's, 50 Sidewinder shotguns, and a bunch of stuff I honestly don't care about. If you make a loot game you need a variety, if you don't have variety your loot game is dead in the water. But this is besides the point.
I'll say this again, I've spent 3 days 12 hours 15minutes and 36 seconds playing this game in the short time it's been available. But I can't anymore, I'm just fucking done. This game is a treadmill, but the goal distances are set for some arbitrary point in spacetime and you may or may not get what you want when you get there. I have a 600+ game backlog, and I'm sure 80%+ of those games will treat my time with more respect than destiny will. I'm just going to go play some of those.
My final remark is that I don't understand why they'd do this. If I burned out because I got all the legendaries and got all of the exotics I wanted I would have quit a much happier man. I probably would have returned for some more when the DLC launched. As it stands I'm just so fucking done I'm probably never returning.
thoseAREmySHOES
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I'm getting consistently booted with all sorts of error codes - monkey, centipede, etc.
computers putin'
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Even before the shotgun nerf, fusion rifles were starting to seem worse, so I definitely expect everyone to start running around with them now. For anyone who has played since the patch, do ar's feel useless or did bungie find a good middle ground with them?
Same. I think it's time to boot up Diablo 3...
Kun Aguero
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Pocket Infinity = acquired
Gunsmith selling 10 rare fusions last night is the only reason I was able to finish the bounty
I have it, it's sweet. Long charge, and no range but up close it destroys. Great in PVE at taking out higher level enemies. Just don't throw all your shards into it yet, Bungie are bound to nerf the fusion rifles, going by all the kids whining.
Persona RS
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krypt0nian
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As is the world.
GeordieMark
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Well this sucks. I was looking forward to a few games before bed but the servers seem to have other ideas.
KiefbladeMaster
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Those nerfs didn't go live today, that was in a future update. All they did today was cut out the loot cave and increase mobs spawning time in all of them.
Fushichou187
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Never had that much spinmetal or other mat in a chest like that, but once in a great while I'll pop a chest that has a bunch of glimmer and two blues.
Rank 1. And it didn't take long to reach that rank.
and they just released a list of future fixes including the communication.
The social experience of a cave farming run is amazing: the herding to get a team of Guardians all behind the line and firing in the right direction, the rush to grab the loot, the scramble when the panic wave starts, the beckoning glow from inside the cave. The speed at which the community organized around this activity was inspiring and humbling to us.
But shooting at a black hole for hours on end isn't our dream for how Destiny is played. Our hope is that social engagement in public spaces is only one part of the Destiny experience. Expect changes soon which decrease the efficiency of cave farming and correspondingly increase engram drops from completing activities. - Bungie
Pop
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Broadsword is the best shader, period.
elementalsin
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Well I guess thats a fair opinion. Mine on the other hand is its much easier to 1 shot people with the fusion rifle, and at multiple ranges, as it requires barely any aiming, and managing the charge is not nearly as crazy as some like to suggest. I've been killed far more by fusion rifle spammers than shotguns thus far.
SDCowboy
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computers putin'
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oh ok, thanks for letting me know.
Neither do I, but nor would I equate them.
I kinda missed the patch, from the scattered pieces in this thread, is it right to assume they nerfed the shotgun? Did they nerf anything else? Because the shotgun wasn't really a problem, it was maps that forced CQC and how common the ammo was. Nerfing it won't help anything. Auto-rifles do need nerfing however.
MADGAME
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Hopefully this shit clears up before I get home from work in a few hours
I do too Crash, so frustrating. Let's link up when you get on if Bungie allows us.
I know and you can also counter AR or Shotty through own gameplay so why to nerf them? Just play better
On serious note I play AR + Shotty and I know they need some tuning at places, but not sure about shotty range nerf. Also I think FR's do need be hit with nerf hammer because now they are way too good hard counter from so big range spread.
ForsakenLotus
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Is anybody else getting disconnected a lot today? My connection with Destiny has been stable until today and I can't play for more than a couple minutes. I'm getting the error code centipede, but I'm not on a campus or anything.
BMO = GOAT
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Unknown Soldier
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AR is broken in PvE as well, I quit using a Legendary Scout Rifle for a Hand Cannon because RNGesus has not seen fit to bless me with a Legendary AR and the Hand Cannon easily does double the DPS of the Scout Rifle yet is still weaker than spamming with an AR.
Like 6 hour if you dont know what you are doing and like2 if you do know what you are doing.
Are you fucking serious? The hells the point in doing those missions then?
1 shader and 1 emblem available at level 1
the thing is, level 2 requires 3000 rep - and without a way to really get faction points with the queen, there's no way to even grind it out.
We can roast a few marshmallows, have a few laughs!
I love visiting Xur before work in the morning!
lyrick
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Excellent thoughts on Game, You captured 99% of my issues perfectly
Gamer @ Heart
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The point is that their end game is poorly designed. That's the point. Not having interesting loot or a well designed progression system and end game ramp are all part of this flaw. The issue is they have done nothing to address this flaw besides empty words. In fact, they've spent their time fixing any "flaws" that could decrease the amount of time you have to spend grinding in their poorly designed and flawed end game. That's the issue. Stop acting like they're completely unrelated.
MMaRsu
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Good post and yeah this game really sucks and takes the fun out of it. Thank god shadows of mordor and driveclub are waiting just a few weeks away!!!
KINGofCRA5H
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For sure, man. One of these days I'll call in that favor
Have you done the raid yet? I've attempted different sections but haven't been able to complete it.KiefbladeMaster
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It's the exact opposite for me, particularly in Skirmish or Control. And at range, you can't one shot people unless they are standing completely still. Most of the time you can maybe take down a quarter/half portion of their shield. When shotguns have the perk that makes them fire at a longer range it is ridiculous.
geordiemp
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The strikes give you 25 experience you can get that for killing 20 level 6 enemies on a patrol.. and V marks is capped at 100, so there is little incentive to do the strikes as rewards are so poor.
Just did a 24 strike and got 1 blue engram.....whats the point ?
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