Coulomb_Barrier
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What the hell why did the Xbone version sell so poor?
The only thing I can think of is that the Xbone's install base in UK is more core gamers whereas PS4 has more casual gamers, more likely to buy FIFA?
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What the hell why did the Xbone version sell so poor?
The only thing I can think of is that the Xbone's install base in UK is more core gamers whereas PS4 has more casual gamers, more likely to buy FIFA?
Jimmyfenix
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Wow.
Graphics Horse
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So that means roughly it sold 1 million copies across all formats, right?
PS4 ~320k
360 ~300k
XB1 ~220k
PS3 ~150k
The split for next-gen FIFA is fairly close to the hw split between the PS4 and XB1.
Numbers on the first page: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=132115097&postcount=4
Graphics Horse
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A thanks, hadn't seen that post.
XBone sales are consistent with the user base: the attach rate is identical between PS4 and XBone. It's just there are 1.5 times more PS4s in the UK.
PS4 has a lead about 1.5:1 and the Fifa sales are about 1.6:1 in favour of PS4 so that seems about right.
No the PS4 merely has more of both : right from launch the PS4 has maintained a 1.5 to 1 install base advantage that mostly aligns to SW sales.
More recently it seems Destiny and now FIFA have both favoured PS 4 a bit more (I.e. more than 1.5 to 1 ratio) so it seems over time PS4 might have a shot of increasing above that ratio.it's just more popular, sells more and therefore sells more SW. No need to imagine XB1 has some odd demographic spilt holding it back it just has a smaller install base hiding it back .
Graphics Horse
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Fifa 15 is a bit less than 1.5:1 ratio, no?
Coulomb_Barrier
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Right does match up well then but I thought FIFA deal with Xbox would make the sales more even.
Some people were even saying that with the Xbone bundle, that system would sell the most copies. I guess the price-matched PS4 Fifa deal put paid to that somewhat.
It will break top 20, it's fairly easy to do (all-formats wise).
They did come out a week earlier than FIFA last year and it debuted and number 2 behind a small-known game called GTA V. I don't think this is Konami being stupid, I think it's them not being ready to release until November.
PS4 has a higher install base. It's as simple as that.
Fifa sells better on 360 because that's the mainstream console in the UK. Same thing applies to PS4.
Graphics Horse
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Bundles don't really mean a great deal to game sales, there's well over 1.5m people who can already play new gen Fifa without having to buy anything. Unfortunately we rarely get hardware sales, as that's what the bundles are designed to shift.
Last year FIFA even came out on the PS2, but not WiiU
Sammy Samusu
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Please be the new Tomodachi, please be the new Tomodachi...
GO UK!
Please be the new Tomodachi, please be the new Tomodachi...
GO UK!
Interesting, seems hardware was very close last week in the UK but with Xbone ahead. So I guess the fifa deal worked after all...kind of?
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/xbox...n-uk-after-fifa-15-and-price-cut-sales-spike/
MSFT is slowly clawing their way back up the sales charts. It took a bundle with the biggest title of them all just to draw even with PS4.
And another price cut.
If EA is serious about making money (and I think they are), they picked the economically better option between porting FIFA 15 Wii U or not. They should have enough sales data for a decent prognosis.
Look at the Twitter conversation earlier this page.
SolidSnakex
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Would Wii U owners buy FIFA 12 rebranded as FIFA 15? Because that's all EA would do if they did port it to the Wii U. They aren't going to put the updated version of the game on it.
They'd probably buy comparably to the other Legacy versions (Wii, Vita, 3DS). They already have the engine there, just seems weird not the flip the roster update switch each year. Maybe they think it'd be too much negative publicity versus doing it for Wii and handhelds?
I'm sure the publishers have data on console ownership and they know how many people have another console in addition to the Wii U. I'm suspecting it's the natural "second console" for a lot of people. If you also have any Xbox or PS, the Wii U version will have a hard time finding an audience. It'd be inferior to the Xbox One or PS4 versions and a case could be made why even the 360 or PS3 versions would be more desireable (larger online player base, usually more friends online). That's if EA decided to port all features in the first place, if they left out UT again, the Wii U version wouldn't stand a chance to begin with.
theprodigy
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Too bad we don't have any sort of a baseline to compare this 155% and 80% increase to....
This week we didn't even get Destiny's third week. The comparison with Watch Dogs is over
PROFOUND SADNESS
SwiftDeath
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Yeah this week is kind of disappointing with the information we got
Ah well
Ah well
theprodigy
Member
what's so disappointing, I mean the top 7 is FIFA 15 FIFA 15 FIFA 15 FIFA 15 DESTINY DESTINY DESTINY, so diverse
(can't wait to see the total software # for this week)
that's....probably expected though isn't it
(can't wait to see the total software # for this week)
that's....probably expected though isn't it
Well, at least that tells us that the PS4:XB1 ratio last week was slightly under 1.5.
Oh wow, that's pretty telling, N-Gage territory. In comparison NDS had a Top 50 at the same point in it's life. I've tried to work out Chart-Track's cut off point for Top 5/10/20/30/40/50 before and if I recall correctly it seemed to be a prolonged spell below ~1000 units, although that was when the market was close to it's peak, so it may vary depending upon the market size.
theprodigy
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KainXVIII
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I've seen similar for another platform near the end of it's life before (I can't remember which right now). I'd guess there's only that many titles stocked in stores still selling significant numbers above whatever the current threshold is.
I saw the twitter conversation, but the arguments made are inadequate. EA hasn't had a presence on the console since launch. They don't know how their new titles would perform. Theoretically porting the 360 version over to the Wii U should be low cost. Selling 100k copies over the course of a year would recoup those cost, and bring in profit.
This argument has been made ad nauseam on this forum, but at this point I doubt that economics are solely the cause and such it's confusing.
theprodigy
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Don't think this has been posted yet in this thread, so Italy chart (week 38):
Week 38? So that's Hyrule's FW. Hm, couldn't displace any of the bigs and if I could venture a guess, it'll probably fall behind Tomodachi Beast next week. It'll really need unexpected legs to get 1 million. And a big performance in NA
I realize the conversation has moved on, but I wanted to just highlight this phrase. I think "new multiplatform console" is just delightfully paradoxical.
(To be clear, I'm not insulting. I just love the idea and how it was expressed.)
exactly. hopefully we will see XB ONE hitting 1 million by the end of the holiday season and we will get updated hardware numbers. Probably.
theprodigy
Member
I think that's the problem, given the rumblings of EA when they supported the WiiU and other 3rd party devs we're looking at 10k sales in week 1 and then tanking below that in subsequent weeks, If that kept being the status quo 2 years later I'm not sure a Fifa would even hit 100k before the new one releases.
Yoshi
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I can understand this, a game like Fifa just lowers the value of the console.
A bit more seriously: That's really often the case for Amazon.de, always look through all the bundles, because often a bundle is cheaper than a standalone console. Of course, shoddy download codes are much less easily resold than proper game-pack-ins.
Portugal 2014 YTD through August (GfK Portugal):
Console Software Units: 700,000
Console Software Value: 20,000,000 (-5%)
Console Hardware Units: 69,000
Console Hardware Value: £18,000,000 (+39%)
PS4 LTD: 45,000
Iberian (Spain/Portugal) FY (Apr 14 - Mar 15) Hardware Unit Forecasts (SCEE Southern Europe):
PS4: 550,000
PS3: 160,000 (21-22% Portugal)
Console Software Units: 700,000
Console Software Value: 20,000,000 (-5%)
Console Hardware Units: 69,000
Console Hardware Value: £18,000,000 (+39%)
PS4 LTD: 45,000
Iberian (Spain/Portugal) FY (Apr 14 - Mar 15) Hardware Unit Forecasts (SCEE Southern Europe):
PS4: 550,000
PS3: 160,000 (21-22% Portugal)
SwiftDeath
Member
Nice find BKK
Ah the PS4 number is LTD, not YTD. My mistake
Ah the PS4 number is LTD, not YTD. My mistake
theprodigy
Member
I bet most of that 45k is PS3
edit: uh, why is the hardware revenue in pounds not euros
Typo. The article says 18M.
SwiftDeath
Member
Rough Google Translation said:
That's just PR fluff right? I mean UK, Germany, and France are all ahead of Spain most likely right in PS4 sales? Perhaps he just means by marketshare or something?