Destiny |OT5| New patch out Tues., Master Rahool reportedly crying into his robes
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Lol Bungie interviewed the first level 30 and he straight up admitted he rolled three hunters. They know about it.
Another thing to take into account for leveling is the effect of grimoire cards. I get more xp from using Auto Rifles for example.
I can see it now.
"This isn't what we imagined when we designed this game. You're now limited to one character per class."
theSlacker
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You mean Xyor? I'm on that as well, sent you an invite.
Guess if he hasn't gotten anyone else then he has a full party with us 2. If others did message him without posting on here then we can get it done together.
It's the main thing makes me come back
Doctor West
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So how do you trigger exotic weapon bounties? I'm a level 27 and haven't had a single one pop up yet. I complete regular bounties all the time.
theSlacker
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RNG. Got 4 of them so far, working on the last one for one of the choices.
Fushichou187
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I checked just now to be sure. Level 24 and 28 difficulty on the daily heroic story definitely has assmats as rewards.
TheCanisDirus
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It makes me REALLY miss Halo 1-3. It feels very out of balance and the control/movement doesn't seem anywhere near the tightness of Halo. Something about Destiny's (mechanics are epic, dont get me wrong) core movement bugs me. It's something with sprinting, and turning and quick movements. It feels slightly janky and then awkward at times online with people in the crucible. Overall it's a fun time every now and then.
The Librarian
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I love the loadout idea, damage icons, and return to Tower.
Blue Ninja
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Fushichou187
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anecdotal evidence, but I've only received exotic bounties after I turned in 5 bounties at once.
Doctor West
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That's pretty messed up if people can get 4+ before others get 1.
Never played Halo? So good.
Someone on Reddit posted some nice UI improvements for the game. Wish they would incorporate all of these into the game. All so simple yet effective. Although I can understand about not having the weapon swap out.
Loadout:
Common in other MMOs, this would let you select a different set of gear very quickly and easily. Items equipped whilst you have a given loadout selected are then associated with that loadout; switching loadout then changes gear appropriately.
Damage Type Icons:
Very simple, this one: show a small preview of the damage type icon on every weapon thumbnail. This makes swapping weapons around a lot more easy, since you no longer have to hover each thumbnail to bring up the tooltip with the full description to find that arc fusion rifle you're so desperately looking for
Quick Weapon Select:
Press and hold Square (PlayStation) or X (Xbox) in any context where square isn't already in use and it will bring up this interface. Pressing left and right on the directional pad will cycle between all weapons of this class in your inventory. Great for selecting special damage types during fights against majors/ultras.
Return to The Tower:
Does what it says on the tin; skip the loading screen for the director and go straight to the tower from the field.
http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hsp3k/destiny_ui_quality_of_life_improvements/
If Bungie can add anything, it's return to Tower. A lot of great ideas in there that hopefully get implemented.
Wow, you're right. I am such a dumb sometimes. I can just rent equipment between characters.
Someone on Reddit posted some nice UI improvements for the game. Wish they would incorporate all of these into the game. All so simple yet effective. Although I can understand about not having the weapon swap out.
Loadout:
Common in other MMOs, this would let you select a different set of gear very quickly and easily. Items equipped whilst you have a given loadout selected are then associated with that loadout; switching loadout then changes gear appropriately.
Damage Type Icons:
Very simple, this one: show a small preview of the damage type icon on every weapon thumbnail. This makes swapping weapons around a lot more easy, since you no longer have to hover each thumbnail to bring up the tooltip with the full description to find that arc fusion rifle you're so desperately looking for
Quick Weapon Select:
Press and hold Square (PlayStation) or X (Xbox) in any context where square isn't already in use and it will bring up this interface. Pressing left and right on the directional pad will cycle between all weapons of this class in your inventory. Great for selecting special damage types during fights against majors/ultras.
Return to The Tower:
Does what it says on the tin; skip the loading screen for the director and go straight to the tower from the field.
http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hsp3k/destiny_ui_quality_of_life_improvements/
YES. All of these. PLEASE!
figadapaura
Member
I suddenly feel like making a new Hunter.
Someone on Reddit posted some nice UI improvements for the game. Wish they would incorporate all of these into the game. All so simple yet effective. Although I can understand about not having the weapon swap out.
Loadout:
Common in other MMOs, this would let you select a different set of gear very quickly and easily. Items equipped whilst you have a given loadout selected are then associated with that loadout; switching loadout then changes gear appropriately.
Damage Type Icons:
Very simple, this one: show a small preview of the damage type icon on every weapon thumbnail. This makes swapping weapons around a lot more easy, since you no longer have to hover each thumbnail to bring up the tooltip with the full description to find that arc fusion rifle you're so desperately looking for
Quick Weapon Select:
Press and hold Square (PlayStation) or X (Xbox) in any context where square isn't already in use and it will bring up this interface. Pressing left and right on the directional pad will cycle between all weapons of this class in your inventory. Great for selecting special damage types during fights against majors/ultras.
Return to The Tower:
Does what it says on the tin; skip the loading screen for the director and go straight to the tower from the field.
http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hsp3k/destiny_ui_quality_of_life_improvements/
They should hire this guy. lol
The Librarian
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MagicWithEarvin
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Jest Chillin
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Quick Weapon Loadout isn't something I'd like to see but the others are nice. Bungie clearly means for you to plan your loadout ahead of time though, as seen by the penalty to ammo when you switch mid-game.
JetBlackPanda
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PepperedHam
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And the journey to 20 on my Warlock alt begins.
I would do this only if there were 2 other people who wanted to do this and run through the story missions (exp bonuses). I'm dead serious. Otherwise, it's boring by myself.
theSlacker
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Well that depends on what you mean by completing bounties all the time. I have done every single non weapon based crucible streak bounty every single day since like launch other then like 4 days.
I can't believe that this game went through internal testing and no one realized how useless emotes were/are during actual gameplay. The fact that i have to open up my menu to reload my ammo instead of having it a quick press away is just.. well, dumb.
The quick weapon select is the only thing that should never happen.
Everything else looks good.
Blue Ninja
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I started today. Already at level 10.
The Librarian
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Yeah, not a huge fan of that quick weapon select idea.
I'm really liking it. a lot more than I expected to
Those UI improvements all get my stamp of approval
edit: The quick weapon select shouldn't be allowed in PvP, anyway
KINGofCRA5H
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Disagree. I always forget to swap my weapons, so this would be an awesome feature. Opening a menu to do a simple task is redundant.
I'm very interested in figuring out how the Destiny damage/crit damage modifers are calculated in game so we can determine what the best spread of weapon statistics are for each weapon type.
Math is not my area of expertise, but I'm looking for some help with this. Basically, through the bungie.net profile area, I'm able to extract the exact values for a weapon's statistics as shown below. Knowing these values and what damage/crit damage I do to each enemy - I believe we can calculate a formula that will help us determine how Destiny is doing these calculations.
My MIDA Multi-Tool:
The EXACT weapon stats numbers (100 is the max on all of these):
I'm level 28. On level 28 enemies I crit them for 575 damage and body shots are 192 damage at close-mid range.
The full JSON dump of my weapon statistics from bungie.net: http://pastebin.com/BZju3Wsf
If you'd like me to extract your weapon statistics from bungie.net, just post your profile link in here and the name of the equipped weapon you want exact statistics for.
Here is what we need from you in-game to help calculate these numbers after I get your true weapon stats.
I believe there might be a global weapon type modifier that effects these calculations, something that makes sniper rifles, handcannons and scout rifles do more effective damage than ARs. Could it be tied to the rate of fire? Think the SUROS, when the RoF decreases, damage increases.
Here's a bit of information on "how the weapon stats work" from http://destiny.wiki.fextralife.com/Weapon+Stats (there's no telling if this is accurate or not, just a place to start):
Thanks to anyone who can help with this project, once we figure it out I could easily build a tool that would allow you to compare/contrast two weapons and easily see if/how they affect your DPS against certain types of mobs!
UPDATE: If you want to extract your own weapon statistics, here's a step-by-step. Note: if you're more experienced its easier to find the HTTP request by watching the Network tab in your browsers web debugger:
My PSN: bytestyle
Math is not my area of expertise, but I'm looking for some help with this. Basically, through the bungie.net profile area, I'm able to extract the exact values for a weapon's statistics as shown below. Knowing these values and what damage/crit damage I do to each enemy - I believe we can calculate a formula that will help us determine how Destiny is doing these calculations.
My MIDA Multi-Tool:
The EXACT weapon stats numbers (100 is the max on all of these):
- Rate of Fire: 42
- Impact: 36
- Range: 58
- Stability: 57
- Reload: 100
- Magazine: 21
I'm level 28. On level 28 enemies I crit them for 575 damage and body shots are 192 damage at close-mid range.
The full JSON dump of my weapon statistics from bungie.net: http://pastebin.com/BZju3Wsf
If you'd like me to extract your weapon statistics from bungie.net, just post your profile link in here and the name of the equipped weapon you want exact statistics for.
Here is what we need from you in-game to help calculate these numbers after I get your true weapon stats.
- Crit damage on mobs of lower level:
- Body damage on mobs of lower level:
- Crit damage on mobs of equal level (28):
- Body damage on mobs of equal level (28):
- Crit damage on mobs of higher level:
- Body damage on mobs of higher level:
I believe there might be a global weapon type modifier that effects these calculations, something that makes sniper rifles, handcannons and scout rifles do more effective damage than ARs. Could it be tied to the rate of fire? Think the SUROS, when the RoF decreases, damage increases.
Here's a bit of information on "how the weapon stats work" from http://destiny.wiki.fextralife.com/Weapon+Stats (there's no telling if this is accurate or not, just a place to start):
- ATTACK: Higher attack allows your weapons to damage higher-level opponents. This stat modifies the Impact stat when you are higher or lower level than your target (reducing or increasing damage). Some Crucible game modes use this stat to calculate damage, some don't.
- IMPACT - Increases the damage inflicted by each round. This stat is modified by your Attack and your character level vs. the level of the target you are shooting at.
- RANGE - Increase the effective range of the weapon. This stat determines the distance that your shots hit for 100% damage before they begin falling-off to 50% damage. Range also affects the minimum and maximum size of your “bloom” circle when hip-firing. This stat also effects the size of your circle bloom when firing. Fusion Rifles don't suffer damage fall-off, but instead Range determines the speed of the projectile fired from these guns. (Note: Sights play a vital role in determining damage by increasing the Range of your weapon while aiming. Each Sight has it's own Range multiplier)
Thanks to anyone who can help with this project, once we figure it out I could easily build a tool that would allow you to compare/contrast two weapons and easily see if/how they affect your DPS against certain types of mobs!
UPDATE: If you want to extract your own weapon statistics, here's a step-by-step. Note: if you're more experienced its easier to find the HTTP request by watching the Network tab in your browsers web debugger:
My PSN: bytestyle
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yeah, like I mentioned before it's stupid how RNG based everything Destiny does is. It takes out skill or dedication entirely, because a person who spends 5 minutes in Crucible can get an exotic compared to someone spending 500 minutes in Destiny and not getting anything.
Exotic bounties are just that much worse.
Disagree. Having to switch quickly in those strikes would be more fun. It's not like it gives you a huge advantage. It's just less tedious.
You'll get to on Tuesday!
yeah, i've been at level 28 for awhile and done tons and tons of bounties and the lack of my first is kinda frustrating.
GalacticToast
Member
Quick question. Since the Rahool patch is out tomorrow, should I leave any packages I get with the postmaster? If the engrams aren't in my inventory yet then they should be positively affected by the patch, right? Sorry if this has been asked before.
theSlacker
Member
I think the problem is that having a quick weapon switch option would imply that that is how bungie wants the game played, and not being prepared beforehand and having to change takes a bigger risk though the menu. Same with the ammo consumables, It seems like it was designed with the hassle of having to go in your menu to use them in mind.
The "go back to tower" option on the other hand is a great idea.
While I can understand the reasons that you would like such a feature to exist, it would be going completely against the three weapon design. Having access to ~20 weapons at the touch of a button instantly would break the game.
There's a reason why switching weapons comes with an ammo penalty as well as putting yourself at risk from enemy fire.
Yeah, I forgot about that one, but yeah....anything non-standard gear and has the chance to stand out, basically.
And won't be replaced.
It's going to get worse before it gets better.
NaturalHigh
Member
just came in here to ask this same thing.
theSlacker
Member
Cloaks are like the only good armor thing for hunters. Other then random special pieces hunter gear looks bad if not for the cloak.
JetBlackPanda
Member
that's the question isnt it.
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