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[Village]

It can easily be argued that Bolin saw that speech with the bandits as her trying to reform them. To the audience, the implication is obvious. But to those on the inside, who see the good she's doing for an entire nation of starving and scared people, it's not that simple.

They see her as a leader who will bring the Earth Kingdom back from the brink of destruction, not the powerhungry villain we all see her as.

The old man, just mentioned that he suspects some type of manipulation, and thats fore hear.

Surely , Surely, someone who has been with them, someone who has been in the command room to some degree has to have noticed an unusual amount of meetings and then bandit things happening around resistant territories

I'm not saying this dude has to be going through an extreme moral delemma, or has been a double agent or something. But if in a future episode it seems like he thought about for like two seconds, I will be fine.

 

[Atraveller]

-wall of pics-

god why ;_;

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Kuvira hasn't shown her powerlevel?

She doesn't have too, two seconds of thought would have brought anyone to that conclusion.

" Uh.. Commander maam sir, isn't odd that every time we try to unite a territory epically one that's been resisting, it conveniently gets attacked before and/or after our arrival followed by compliance from said territory. "

" Eat your peas bolin "

" I have to go to a meeting with these nice people"

" those people look like bandits"

" They are , we are about to give them work, make them better people "

" what kind of work"

"odd... jobs "

Again you're entirely seeing this from the point of view of the audience member, which isn't much of an argument as to why a character in the show doesn't see it. "Why didn't anybody see that X character is evil? I mean we're seeing specific scenes in their entire lives that display their evil so they must see it too"

Similar to watching a movie with a huge twist that you have already seen. You'll see all the context and symbolism that make it obvious, but an audience member that is watching it for the first time doesn't see it because they're not looking for it. Example: Bruce Willis in 6th sense.

To be fair, Bolin is kind of an idiot.

It's also not clear how long this has been going on. The straightforward protection racket she presents herself as running seems pretty uncontroversial (only Opal objects, that we see) and may have been working pretty well as she consolidated 90% of the Earth Kingdom territories. Maybe she only recently decided that the remaining holdouts needed an extra incentive beyond that provided by independent bandits.

But yes, the scheme would be pretty obvious if she was consistently offering to wait at the border for just one day, and then the place always gets attacked that day.

Even if he is an idiot, more specifically the puppy character, it can't be blamed on him that he doesn't see this when nobody else, not even police officers and political figures see it. He's too distracted thinking of all the good he's doing and he doesn't see the evil in people until it's really obvious.

The old man, just mentioned that he suspects some type of manipulation, and thats fore hear.

Surely , Surely, someone who has been with them, someone who has been in the command room to some degree has to have noticed an unusual amount of meetings and then bandit things happening around resistant territories

I'm not saying this dude has to be going through an extreme moral delemma, or has been a double agent or something. But if in a future episode it seems like he thought about for like two seconds, I will be fine.

He doesn't have to think about it because following basic writing she'll give it away or he'll see it first hand and then leave her side. Again I'll say this, even Kai who has seen first hand her tactics and hangs around Opal who I'm sure complains about their tactics, doesn't see the issue with it. So it's not like it's blatantly obvious.

 

[Village]

To be fair, Bolin is kind of an idiot.

It's also not clear how long this has been going on. The straightforward protection racket she presents herself as running seems pretty uncontroversial (only Opal objects, that we see) and may have been working pretty well as she consolidated 90% of the Earth Kingdom territories. Maybe she only recently decided that the remaining holdouts needed an extra incentive beyond that provided by independent bandits.

But yes, the scheme would be pretty obvious if she was consistently offering to wait at the border for just one day, and then the place always gets attacked that day.

I kind of understand, I'm sure she probably had fans or some people don't like the old system of government so there wasn't resistance , but I don't believe that's the first time that has happened.

 

[Icyflamez96]

Anyone else noticed the Kuriva's design is more pronounced now that she is a central character? Even though Kuriva's look did always stand out to me among the very minor characters, I went back to look at shots of her in S3 and she seems like.... blander or something.

 

[NoTacos]

Damn, this episode set up a lot for this season. Kuvira is a mastermind and idk what is going on with Korra. In the preview trailer it looked like she was doing underground mma style fighting but I didn't think they would actually go that route, a definite shocker.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Spoiler

I wonder when Kuvira says that she will reunite the Earth kingdom, she includes Republic city in that. Maybe that what causes problems with Korra.

 

[Trey]

Spoiler

I wonder when Kuvira says that she will reunite the Earth kingdom, she includes Republic city in that. Maybe that what causes problems with Korra.

Based on

Spoiler

a translation from a banner in the trailer, the odds are good that Republic city will be a target.

 

[Htown]

noooooooooo

my emotions

 

[Satch]

im going to change my name to Kuvira on steam and play Legion Commander in dota for like 3 games

wish me luck

 

[Icyflamez96]

im going to change my name to Kuvira on steam and play Legion Commander in dota for like 3 games

wish me luck

good luck

 

[Trey]

im going to change my name to Kuvira on steam and play Legion Commander in dota for like 3 games

wish me luck

This is perhaps the female equivalent to the "what video game should I show on my first date?"

God speed, friend.

 

[bearythebear]

I don't really buy that Kuvira is evil. She's ambitious, but working in a gray area.

I also thought the same thing about Zaheer though....

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I don't really buy that Kuvira is evil. She's ambitious, but working in a gray area.

I also thought the same thing about Zaheer though....

these writers can't write morally grey, and to be fair it'd be confusing for children I guess. Zaheer had to go and kill the queen and try to outright kill people. They never really went in depth to explain his philosophy which is a shame.

 

[Satch]

theres an Alchemist on the other team

Kuvira is about to lose

 

[RedSwirl]

Anybody seeing any similarity between Earth Kingdom Prince and this dude?

That last Earth Queen was quite obviously based on the Empress Dowager. You think they'd take it one step further? Maybe even draw on a little bit of China's civil war history?

 

[Savitar]

Kuvira is so Magneto.

 

[NoTacos]

noooooooooo

my emotions

Damn. That literally sums up her situation.

 

[Satch]

legion commander is literally the worst hero in the game

this is shit

 

[shira]

Kuvira is so Magneto.

Gambit

 

[SparksterMeta0]

I knew Korra was still in a dark place after the mess from Book 3 but even after 3 years... wow.

How far has an Avatar fallen?

 

[shira]

I knew Korra was still in a dark place after the mess from Book 3 but even after 3 years... wow.

How far has an Avatar fallen?

Srsly, I mean it's one thing to wrestle Bonesaw to get money to impress maryjane, but she's just wrestling to get her shit kicked in. So fucking dark and sadistic - I'm actually pretty impressed they went this dark.

Also sad they didn't get Mick Foley didn't reprise a role as Boulder Jr. or something.

 

[Satch]

im going to do ember spirit instead

legion commander is aids

 

[Azerare]

Also sad they didn't get Mick Foley didn't reprise a role as Boulder Jr. or something.

Someone like Boulder Jr. would be in the highest champion circuit.
Korra is currently a scrub being knocked around in bar-backroom fights.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Someone like Boulder Jr. would be in the highest champion circuit.
Korra is currently a scrub being knocked around in bar-backroom fights.

to be fair she has only left the safety of her family 6 months before the first episode, so she probably hasn't done any serious fighting and has been recuperating for 2 years and a half, so yeah. Probably needs to train her body again, she won't stand a chance against fighters.

 

[Nyanmaruz]

I hope Kuvira plans to take over Republic City (which seems likely), means that Iroh jr. will be back again. =D

 

[shira]

im going to do ember spirit instead

legion commander is aids

Wrong thread, reported

Someone like Boulder Jr. would be in the highest champion circuit.
Korra is currently a scrub being knocked around in bar-backroom fights.

Well do you really think they are doing more wrestling circuit matches. I do hope we get Mick though

to be fair she has only left the safety of her family 6 months before the first episode, so she probably hasn't done any serious fighting and has been recuperating for 2 years and a half, so yeah. Probably needs to train her body again, she won't stand a chance against fighters.

To me it looked like she was fighting to get beaten up.

 

[-Deimos]

Wrong thread, reported

Satch can only venture out of the Korra thread so many times.

 

[NoTacos]

Srsly, I mean it's one thing to wrestle Bonesaw to get money to impress maryjane, but she's just wrestling to get her shit kicked in. So fucking dark and sadistic - I'm actually pretty impressed they went this dark.

Also sad they didn't get Mick Foley didn't reprise a role as Boulder Jr. or something.

How the hell did I not realize this was Mick Foley?? He's obviously the only person worthy of this role. Rock n' Sock Connection was perfection.

 

[-Deimos]

How the hell did I not realize this was Mick Foley?? He's obviously the only person worthy of this role. Rock n' Sock Connection was perfection.

Mick Foley? No wonder the Boulder was so awesome.

 

[Savitar]

Gambit

She redirects things and controls them.

Not make them explode.

She's Magneto!

She also knows the riddle of steel.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

To me it looked like she was fighting to get beaten up.

She's always felt at home when fighting and being angry.

Seems to me that she feels unneeded and emotionally crushed and that fighting is her last escape. Too early to tell in either case though.

 

[Chariot]

She redirects things and controls them.

Not make them explode.

She's Magneto!

She also knows the riddle of steel.

EXPLOSION BENDING!

 

[shira]

She redirects things and controls them.

Not make them explode.

She's Magneto!

She also knows the riddle of steel.

I know, but it looks like cards

 

[Kangi]

So when do we get to see Bumi in one of those skintight lemur outfits?

 

[Moaradin]

legion commander is literally the worst hero in the game

this is shit

Legion Commander is amazing.

Get gud.

 

[shira]

How the hell did I not realize this was Mick Foley?? He's obviously the only person worthy of this role. Rock n' Sock Connection was perfection.

Maybe the Rock or Randy Poffo RIP

 

[Hamlet]

So when do we get to see Bumi in one of those skintight lemur outfits?

Hopefully soon I want to see how advanced Bumi's airbending has gotten since the three year time skip.

 

[Toa TAK]

stuff

Never stop posting this stuff. These were excellent.

 

[Hamlet]

I'm tearbending here.

 

[Verelios]

Man, I think this is the first time I've seen Korra get legitimately wrecked by an average joe. Either she's still not over the poison, which to be fair looked like some grade A lethal stuff, mercury lethal, or she's trying to forge her bending to become a better avatar. Korra was only using earth bending during the bout so these 6 months could have been spent training.

But backroom fights? Damn.

 

[Chariot]

Man, I think this is the first time I've seen Korra get legitimately wrecked by an average joe. Either she's still not over the poison, which to be fair looked like some grade A lethal stuff, mercury lethal, or she's trying to forge her bending to become a better avatar. Korra was only using earth bending during the bout so these 6 months could have been spent training.

But backroom fights? Damn.

Some fighter isn't an average Joe. Korra is decent with all elements, but by no means master. That ringfighter is a specialist and most likely more skilled than Korra when it comes to earthbending. Since her recovery just ended months ago she probably getting back in shape. And fighting people who are skilled in fighting but won't kill her is a good way, she may also learn a thing or two. Or maybe she just want to feel and dish out pain.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

lol

 

[Hamlet]

The Earth Rumble sure has changed quite a bit since Book 2.
Lot safer to actually watch it now without the fear of flying boulders hitting the stands.

 

[Moral Panic]

It is almost universally the case that the wider world is on the side of the secessionists (when secessionists are in the clear majority in the territory) on almost every occasion where the secessionists don't clearly want to secede just so that they can do something horrible.

I think the issue with comparisons to the modern world is the fact that Avatar picks and chooses which modern values it wants. There were no elections to choose Zuko to be fire lord and I highly doubt they choose his daughter either. The earth queen was a tyrant who Korra helped take tax money and impoverish the people. Half of season 2 Korra spends shouting that Unaloq isn't the real chief as if there is a inherent righteousness in the order of succession. Now Unaloq's kids rule the north, still without a single hint that any elections or form of democracy took place. This episode we have another unelected prince being paraded and helped to succeed the throne. If they are fine with these feudal systems then when the show looks at a completely bloodless reunification of a country and tries to tell me that the methods are wrong?

It doesn't take much look at history to see how secessions and rebellions have led to ridiculous amount of bloodshed and destruction, Even today we have Ukraine, where the internationally supported government is fighting to keep their country whole. Georgia too with the US giving it "full support" towards it's "territorial integrity". So while I agree that the layman is all for secession, political reality shows that countries that are on the "good side" regularly fight and kill to keep parts of their territory and this is not denounced.

 

[Hamlet]

Ha this is pretty good "The Blind Bandit vs Korra"

 

[zeemumu]

I always found it a little weird that she never uses her native element that often. I guess her personality would cause her to lean more towards firebending, though.

 

[WhereAreMahDragonz]

STOP.

 

[Atraveller]

Ha this is pretty good "The Blind Bandit vs Korra"

Maybe...Toph will appear and train Korra in future episodes.

 

[Neoxon]

Finally watched episode 1. How will Korra defeat Shang Tsung if she can't get through the first round of the tournament?

Also, I had no idea that Zelda Williams voiced Kuvira.

Zelda voices kuvira?

I was wondering

Yeah, I thought this was common knowledge after last season. If I recall, Zelda even tweeted about it.