Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)

This supply and demand thing is getting a little out of hand xD
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So close to putting in an order for the stock Zotac, ugh. Not that Amazon have stock but at least they are taking orders.
 
This supply and demand thing is getting a little out of hand xD


So close to putting in an order for the stock Zotac, ugh. Not that Amazon have stock but at least they are taking orders.

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I just went by this and was able to get MSI one's.

EDIT: So after hours of stress testing. The highest clock I reached while maintaining stability throughout the entire Valley, FurMark, 3D mark, and Cinemark benchmarking was 1511 Mhz. My card never even reached 70c while doing the benchmarks and stress tests. The highest recoreded temp was 69c. Fans are quiet as heck too. could barely hear it at 1.8k rpms. Gonna run games just around 1300 Mhz clock sinec I dont want to push the card right at its limit of stability.
 
Would appreciate anybodies help on this. I just purchased an Asus GTX 970 Strix. Problem is my PSU only included a 6 pin to 6 pin connector, whereas the card needs a 6+2 or an 8.

Anyone have any recommendations on a 6 pin to 6+2 (or 8) cable. Links appreciated, especially from amazon so I can get two day shipping for free. Thanks GAF, I have no experience with these cables so I don't know what to look for.

Edit: Is this what I'm looking for?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002SZ45BU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 
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I just went by this and was able to get MSI one's.

What's wrong with the Zotac?

This supply and demand thing is getting a little out of hand xD
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So close to putting in an order for the stock Zotac, ugh. Not that Amazon have stock but at least they are taking orders.

You pass on the PNY but are considering the Zotac?

Sorry for the questions, but I'm just really curious. I sold my old HD6950 two hours ago and got a GTX260 replacement card in my PC now. I'm basically forced to buy a new card and still can't decide which model to get. There are no tests for the cheaper models and I'm not spending 350+ on a GTX 970.
 
What's wrong with the Zotac?



You pass on the PNY but are considering the Zotac?

Sorry for the questions, but I'm just really curious. I sold my old HD6950 two hours ago and got a GTX260 replacement card in my PC now. I'm basically forced to buy a new card and still can't decide which model to get. There are no tests for the cheaper models and I'm not spending 350+ on a GTX 970.

That Zotac cooler is probably better than the PNY, plus that 5 year warranty in the UK with UK based CS. I am only considering it because I only have Amazon voucher but I would much rather wait for a tried and tested card MSI, Gigabyte and the likes. If I had to buy the cheap 970s I would go for the Zotac for the warranty alone and the fact that they don't use the single fan cheap old style reference coolers helps. I don't know how the warranty is outside the UK.
 
PNY for $379 or Asus for $399? What do you guys think? They've jacked up the prices in Canada BTW. I'm leaning towards the PNY because it's a reference design and my system doesn't have much airflow (R4 + 140mm exhaust).
 
So I received my second Gigabyte G1 Gaming 970 this morning, fortunately it does not whine :)

But the new one does not hold the same overclock (+150 MHz GPU, +500 VRAM).

So now both cards are at +100 CPU and +250 VRAM.

3DMark scores :
- with one 970 @1530/3500, graphic score : 13296
- with two 970 @1480/3250, graphic score : 24828
- with my old two 680 : some 15000 points (graphic score)

Temps of the cards are 70°C for the top one and 60°C for the bottom one, was 55°C with one card.
 
That Zotac cooler is probably better than the PNY, plus that 5 year warranty in the UK with UK based CS. I am only considering it because I only have Amazon voucher but I would much rather wait for a tried and tested card MSI, Gigabyte and the likes. If I had to buy the cheap 970s I would go for the Zotac for the warranty alone and the fact that they don't use the single fan cheap old style reference coolers helps. I don't know how the warranty is outside the UK.

If you could hold out a little while longer, I will have the stock Zotac installed in my rig within the week. I'm going to test it out extensively. I love that it's such a small card. I'm not too worried about heat as my case (Antec 902) has excellent airflow. Hopefully I get a good board for overclocking.
 
A question.. how long do you guys think DDR3 1600 is still going to be good? I know DDR4 is on the way, but if I were to upgrade my cpu and motherboard in early 2015, I should be still okay with 12GB of it?
 
A question.. how long do you guys think DDR3 1600 is still going to be good? I know DDR4 is on the way, but if I were to upgrade my cpu and motherboard in early 2015, I should be still okay with 12GB of it?

I'm sure 1600mhz ddr3 will still be fine for a good while and 12gb is still more than enough ram. (assuming you use the rig for gaming and surfing the web)
 
Hmm, I may need new ram anyway unless I settle for 8GB. I just realized that LGA 1150 supports a maximum of 4 DIMMs whereas my crusty LGA 1366 motherboard has 6 (6x2GB).
 
Would appreciate anybodies help on this. I just purchased an Asus GTX 970 Strix. Problem is my PSU only included a 6 pin to 6 pin connector, whereas the card needs a 6+2 or an 8.

Anyone have any recommendations on a 6 pin to 6+2 (or 8) cable. Links appreciated, especially from amazon so I can get two day shipping for free. Thanks GAF, I have no experience with these cables so I don't know what to look for.

Edit: Is this what I'm looking for?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002SZ45BU/?tag=neogaf0e-20


You sure your PSU doesn't have any 2 cables at all? Mine had 1 8, but then a 6, but had a 2 as well, so that worked.



With the new nvidia thingy, I guess I'm downsampling for the first time, and holy god. I need to find a really graphics intensive thing to test things out.
 
Would appreciate anybodies help on this. I just purchased an Asus GTX 970 Strix. Problem is my PSU only included a 6 pin to 6 pin connector, whereas the card needs a 6+2 or an 8.

Anyone have any recommendations on a 6 pin to 6+2 (or 8) cable. Links appreciated, especially from amazon so I can get two day shipping for free. Thanks GAF, I have no experience with these cables so I don't know what to look for.

Edit: Is this what I'm looking for?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002SZ45BU/?tag=neogaf0e-20

No no no no no no no. Please for the love of god don't do this. At best you'll blow a fuse in your power supply as you try to pull 12 amps through a wire that's expecting a load of 6 when your GPU does something taxing. At worst you'll damage your video card and your power supply.

The only way you can do this safely is a 2x6 to 8 converter.
 
Not sure I understand why the GPU manufacturers are purposely limiting stock. It's not like they're the ones selling it above MSRP (aside from non-reference).
 
If you have an Nvidia GPU you can force the game to use all available CUDA cores for texture transcoding (vt_useCudaTranscode 2). This will lessen the burden on the CPU.
Sayyy whaaaaat? What magic is this?
Are there any benchmarks of this in action?
Are there any drawbacks to this?
 
That Zotac cooler is probably better than the PNY, plus that 5 year warranty in the UK with UK based CS. I am only considering it because I only have Amazon voucher but I would much rather wait for a tried and tested card MSI, Gigabyte and the likes. If I had to buy the cheap 970s I would go for the Zotac for the warranty alone and the fact that they don't use the single fan cheap old style reference coolers helps. I don't know how the warranty is outside the UK.

Thank you for your reply. If I want to buy a card now (and I need to, because my replacememt GTX 260 is only good to play indie games these days) I have the choice between the Palit (304€), Gainward Stock (318), Galax stock (319), Inno3D (319), Zotac stock (329), Palit JetStream (329) and the MSI (359).

If the Zotac was in stock at other retailers, I could get it for 308€ and it would be a no-brainer. But for 329 it's definitely too much. The fact that I never had a card break down on me doesn't let me appreciate the 5 year warranty either (of course I just jinxed that now). I can only hope they all get more cards on Monday, to drive the prices down again.
 
So I received my second Gigabyte G1 Gaming 970 this morning, fortunately it does not whine :)

But the new one does not hold the same overclock (+150 MHz GPU, +500 VRAM).

So now both cards are at +100 CPU and +250 VRAM.

3DMark scores :
- with one 970 @1530/3500, graphic score : 13296
- with two 970 @1480/3250, graphic score : 24828
- with my old two 680 : some 15000 points (graphic score)

Temps of the cards are 70°C for the top one and 60°C for the bottom one, was 55°C with one card.

How well do those cards fit in sli? I was considering it, but was worried there wouldn't be enough air flow for the top card.
 
Not sure I understand why the GPU manufacturers are purposely limiting stock. It's not like they're the ones selling it above MSRP (aside from non-reference).

They're not. The GM204 die is huge compared to GK104 and TSMC has been running out of 28nm capacity with the lead times for orders going up to four months.

Less dies per wafer, longer lead times per order, yield probably still ramping up. There's not going to be very many of these chips on the ground.
 
so when we can expect to see 6GB versions for 980 or 970? (they did put a 6gb version of the 780 not long ago so it'll be weird if they did not do this again)
 
so when we can expect to see 6GB versions for 980 or 970? (they did put a 6gb version of the 780 not long ago so it'll be weird if they did not do this again)

There won't be a 6GB version due to the 256-bit memory bus. It'll be 8GB. Apparently Nov-Dec going by rumors.
 
so when we can expect to see 6GB versions for 980 or 970? (they did put a 6gb version of the 780 not long ago so it'll be weird if they did not do this again)

I think people were saying there would never be a 6GB version of the 970 because it's got a 256-bit memory bus, so only 4GB/8GB would make sense; for 6GB/12GB you'd ideally have a 384-bit interface. But I'm not really up on the more technical aspects of video cards these days so I don't know if that's accurate or not.
 
There won't be a 6GB version due to the 256-bit memory bus. It'll be 8GB. Apparently Nov-Dec going by rumors.

I think people were saying there would never be a 6GB version of the 970 because it's got a 256-bit memory bus, so only 4GB/8GB would make sense; for 6GB/12GB you'd ideally have a 384-bit interface. But I'm not really up on the more technical aspects of video cards these days so I don't know if that's accurate or not.

thanks for the info.

so 8gb maybe dec even early 2015. that should be fine. I can wait.
 
There won't be a 6GB version due to the 256-bit memory bus. It'll be 8GB. Apparently Nov-Dec going by rumors.

I think people were saying there would never be a 6GB version of the 970 because it's got a 256-bit memory bus, so only 4GB/8GB would make sense; for 6GB/12GB you'd ideally have a 384-bit interface. But I'm not really up on the more technical aspects of video cards these days so I don't know if that's accurate or not.

The 8GB versions are only rumours. That being said, I would think they won't be more than 4-5 months away anyway.

Which makes me think if the wait will be worth it considering that the 1000 series could be unveiled next year around this time. And we're back to the never ending loop of always waiting for the next big thing, and looks like we'll be waiting forever lol. But it's interesting if there are going to be 8GB versions at all, how would the memory controllers work? I always thought 1 gig per 128 bit was standard and easier rather than having smaller memory controllers per memory lanes... so hmmm... I hope we see the 8GB by no later than November. Also the EVGA HydroCopper and Classified 980's are coming soon.
 
What's the price of the 980 going to be? I can't even begin to imagine the price of the 980 Classified... is that over-inflated price due to taxes and tariffs? Or is that just how it translates from USD to Chilean Pesos, or both?
 
What's the price of the 980 going to be? I can't even begin to imagine the price of the 980 Classified... is that over-inflated price due to taxes and tariffs? Or is that just how it translates from USD to Chilean Pesos, or both?

Wait, I think I used a wrong conversor, it should be around US$500, still expensive as hell. The 980 is around US$800.

The price is because of taxes and tarifes, yeah. I think that the stores that are selling it are buying it from Amazon and then selling it here, so maybe it will be cheaper next year.
 
You sure your PSU doesn't have any 2 cables at all? Mine had 1 8, but then a 6, but had a 2 as well, so that worked.



With the new nvidia thingy, I guess I'm downsampling for the first time, and holy god. I need to find a really graphics intensive thing to test things out.

Nope, my PSU is a Antec NeoPower 550 that is a actually about 8 years old and due to be replaced. I was hoping to milk another year or two out of it since it's been babied it's whole life and was a very well made unit. It only came with a couple 6 pin PCI-E connectors. I'm having difficulty finding an 8 pin or 6+2 pin on Amazon.

No no no no no no no. Please for the love of god don't do this. At best you'll blow a fuse in your power supply as you try to pull 12 amps through a wire that's expecting a load of 6 when your GPU does something taxing. At worst you'll damage your video card and your power supply.

The only way you can do this safely is a 2x6 to 8 converter.

I'm not well versed on power supplies, so pardon my ignorance, but isn't that what I posted a link too? Doesn't that cable convert my 6 pin PSU output on the Antec Neopower 550 to an 8 pin input on the GTX 970? Why would it blow a fuse? Is it a matter of shoddy wiring? It sucks that despite years of building pc's I know next to nothing about power supplies. I appreciate any input.
 
What's wrong with the Zotac?

Sorry for the late response. Was at work and gaf is blocked at the network. Anyways. Nothing wrong with the brand. Its just that I see these kind of things as an investment and he could possibly be attahced to the card for years. Might as well wait a little for the card he really wanted to be back in stock. Those MSI's and Gigabytes will be in stock soon.. I can feel it. Was just instock recently here in US, just monitor r/buildapcsales and that link i posted.
 
Damn I've been keeping an eye on all the new cards that are released and seeing them hit "out of stock" status on Newegg after I check back a few hours later.

I can't recall there being SO many brands of the same card and all of them being sold out at the same time. It would be really cool if we could get numbers on sales figures.
 
What's the best cooler for SLI?

I'd think blower, as it dumps the hot air outside the case instead of into the card above or below.

I've got a Corsair 200R. 3 intake 3 exhaust.
 
I'm not well versed on power supplies, so pardon my ignorance, but isn't that what I posted a link too? Doesn't that cable convert my 6 pin PSU output on the Antec Neopower 550 to an 8 pin input on the GTX 970? Why would it blow a fuse? Is it a matter of shoddy wiring? It sucks that despite years of building pc's I know next to nothing about power supplies. I appreciate any input.

That cable is a single 6 pin to 8 pin converter. A 6 pin PCI-E connector will usually have 18 AWG wiring capable of taking a couple of amps, enough for the 75W stated on the spec. The 8 pin PCI-E will usually use at least 16 AWG wire to be able to take the increased current safely (~4A per conductor or so). Sure in many cases they may overbuild the 6 pin to use a larger gauge of wire anyway and you end up fine which is why you have some jackass who chimes in with the "but I use molex to 6 pin to 8 pin on my R9 290X and it works fine". But trying to draw double the power of a spec's design is typically not a wise idea.

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^ This is the actual cable. Two 6-pin inputs, one 8 pin output.

You don't want to end up like this jackass although what he did was spectacularly fucking stupid.
 
Sigh, looking to replace my 2 6950s with 2 Gigabyte 970s (love me some 3x display ports).

I guess its the waiting game now =(
 
That cable is a single 6 pin to 8 pin converter. A 6 pin PCI-E connector will usually have 18 AWG wiring capable of taking a couple of amps, enough for the 75W stated on the spec. The 8 pin PCI-E will usually use at least 16 AWG wire to be able to take the increased current safely (~4A per conductor or so). Sure in many cases they may overbuild the 6 pin to use a larger gauge of wire anyway and you end up fine which is why you have some jackass who chimes in with the "but I use molex to 6 pin to 8 pin on my R9 290X and it works fine". But trying to draw double the power of a spec's design is typically not a wise idea.

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^ This is the actual cable. Two 6-pin inputs, one 8 pin output.

You don't want to end up like this jackass although what he did was spectacularly fucking stupid.

I got this power supply (first one was wrong) - is that suffice? Does it have the connectors?

http://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/249
 
Just installed my MSi 970, no coil whine issues so far.

loving how quiet it is, its even quieter than my 760 windforce.

is there a way to force Vsync in menus before I go to a games PC settings?
 
Just installed my MSi 970, no coil whine issues so far.

loving how quiet it is, its even quieter than my 760 windforce.

is there a way to force Vsync in menus before I go to a games PC settings?

Force it on through the nvidia control panel, set it on in the default tab, this way it wil apply on every game by default. This way you don't have to enable it in game.
 
Asked this in the I need a PC thread but I'll ask here too.

I'm trying to overclock my EVGA 970 SC ACX 2.0 card and I'm not seeing good results right off the bat. This is my first time overclocking a card and I'm using this guide, just with 3Dmark instead of heaven for stress testing.

First time out of the gate, I increase my core clockspeed by 10mhz from 1165 to 1175. I start up 3D Mark. I get some artifacting during the demo. The guide says once you get artificating you can increase your voltage by 10mV at a time or so. I increase my 10mV and keep the 10mhz overclock and it still gets artificating. Am I just unable to overclock this card or am I doing something wrong?

Looking at Afterburner, do I have to increase power level percentage in addition to increasing core voltage for it to affect anything?
 
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