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[JetBlackPanda]

A lot of people here don't like to play video games and they are waiting for an excuse to avoid buying.

Their loss

So I should just buy whatever system I happen to see first on the shelf? some people buy a console for friends, some people buy a console because it has superior hardware.

I refuse to support a company downgrading a version just so that another version doesn't look bad.

if that kind of shit doesn't bother you that's fine. Don't tell me I'm some kind of game hating idiot because it bothers me.

 

[KOHIPEET]

WTF? So there's an amount of money for which a publisher/developer goes down?

Fuck UBI!

 

[Bessy67]

That was pretty much the most stupid thing that person could have said. If they simply revealed that both ran at 900/30 and didn't talk about why they probably would have been fine. I mean, Watch Dogs was 900/30 on both so it wouldn't have been too shocking. By saying they went for parity to avoid the debate I feel like they invited much more debate.

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

i thought sony used to pay them each time? MS paid more this time? MS must have paid a lot to get parity when Sony never used to get parity with the last gen ones?

 

[CoG]

This is a joke. I expect the same from CoD AW. Microsoft hit the parity panic button. It was obvious from Destiny. This is worse. AC gets a reso downgrade from last ten in PS4. Fuck MS.

 

[Owzers]

I applaud their honesty.

 

[malfcn]

Resolution isn't everything.
The PS4 will probably still have better details like shadow and processing effects.

Also locked solid versus some dips?

 

[DarthWalden]

Isnt that Phil Spencer guy great, isnt he? All he does and is spending money on is to subtract other peoples experience and not to add for his own user base.

And companies like EA, Square enix and Ubisoft are willing to play with him that dirty anti consumer game.

But but we need to support these guys because reasons.... Fuck off!

When Phil Spencer asks for parity, Phil Spencer gets parity. Like a boss!

Spoiler

Wait, What does this have to do with Phil Spencer?

 

[Kyoufu]

Why did Ubisoft even decide to use Xbone to market ACU when they've used Playstation since forever?

Because Sony didn't want to pay money for AC anymore.

 

[Eleventy_Million]

This is disappointing news that neither console will make it to 1080p but I'd rather them be honest about it then go through that whole bullshot/downgrade cycle like they did with Watchdogs.

 

[Toa TAK]

I do like that they went ahead and said "STUFF".

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Don't know what's dumber, the forced parity or thinking this move will result in less debate.

"Less debate" is just the dumb excuse they settled on since coming out and saying "MS paid us to make it worse on PS4" isn't a good marketing angle

 

[Alucrid]

A lot of people here don't like to play video games and they are waiting for an excuse to avoid buying.

Their loss

lol pls

 

[The Last Wizard]

The one ac I was really looking forward too, fuck off ubi.

 

[WaLlbaNg]

I always kind of liked Ubisoft as a Publisher, contrary to the general opinion, and I always loved AC (even after Ezio...), but I really disrespect this decision.

Just contacted their feedback mail adress, and attached my cancellation.

 

[CyberPunked]

This pretty much confirms >900p @ 30fps for The Division on consoles.

 

[BadAss2961]

As stated, I wonder if MS had something to do with this?

Would MS really sink that low?

I'm not a fan of MS, but if this is on them, I would be surprised.

Is the sun hot?

 

[That Wont Fit In There]

Really? Looking forward to another 1080p patch update.

 

[Cyriades]

Unbelievable.

 

[Chabbles]

Not cool Ubisoft. If i pick this up, it will be a used copy.

 

[c0de]

What happened to GPGPU compute? Not there yet or not something that could solve their AI issue? I thought It was supposed to be the coolest.

GPGPU compute is "only" a proper solution for dedicated "problems". There is a reason we still have CPUs.

 

[murgo]

Architect of the revolution

Just kidding, I know it won't affect anything, it's just a bit of fun.

You favorited my tweet. I feel famous now.

 

[TheBowen]

Thankfully im getting this for PC ( which will most likely be a shit port too) but this is just bullshit.

Ubi you have like a population of a country working on the game, make use of both sets of hardware.

 

[pager99]

I'm out Ubisoft

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

This is a load of bullshit. Here's Chaos Theory compared across the platforms from that generation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkHoDEh0FWc

I never said all games, and that doesn't even count since the OG Xbox was the lead platform, making the PS2 version a downport.

What i was getting at is that this isn't the first time devs/pubs release a compromised version of a game on the more powerful system with little work put into the version on the better system. Of course, many pointed out that this isn't the same situation given that the PS4 is clearly leading in sales vs the weaker XB1.

I'm with folks who are not happy that the PS4 version is getting hit with this parity stuff but i can also see how this makes it easier to market the game for the publishers and easier to develop the game for the devs. In the end, if you don't like their decision then vote with your dollars, because the odds are they aren't going to learn any other way.

 

[BetterWorldz]

Sure, clearly that's not creating any debate...

 

[Orniletter]

I was thinking Assassin's Creed Unity |OT| Parity in Paris.

Almost perfect. Assassin's Creed Unity |OT| Par(i)ty in Paris would be even better

Spoiler

imo of course

 

[Kezen]

The PC ports are being made by Ubisoft Kiev who are known for the crappy ports for example Splinter Cell Conviction, AC Black Flag etc

They ran very well on my system at the time, not worried at all.
PC is it for me, I have no doubt I'll achieve 50fps at 1080p with near max settings like I did on Watch Dogs, AC4.

The beauty of the PC is that you can brute force through more or less optimized code.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

That was pretty much the most stupid thing that person could have said. If they simply revealed that both ran at 900/30 and didn't talk about why they probably would have been fine. I mean, Watch Dogs was 900/30 on both so it wouldn't have been too shocking. By saying they went for parity to avoid the debate I feel like they invited much more debate.

if they had not said anything people would be flooding them for a reason on 900p on PS4 and asking for a patch. Well guess what because of Microsofts marketing deal we won't get one.

so there it is.

 

[Maintenance]

i thought sony used to pay them each time? MS paid more this time? MS must have paid a lot to get parity when Sony never used to get parity with the last gen ones?

Sony does not have a warchest, they're bleeding money everywhere. They're lucky that the PS4 is even selling well.

 

[Sciortino]

Incoming 1080p patch after this shitstorm. Watch.

 

[Duxxy3]

Because Sony didn't want to pay money for AC anymore.

They probably prioritized Destiny over everything else. The Destiny marketing deal must have been huge.

 

[OccamsLightsaber]

If the xbox one version was 720p this thread would be a lot different and everybody here knows it.

No shit. BF4 is 900p on PS4 and 720p on X1, but it was 60fps soooo.....

 

[OboroShogun]

Well that's great. Not that I've bought an Assassin's Creed in a while but this is a slippery slope being tread.

 

[stryke]

If they can't hold a locked 30fps at 900p, there's a good chance the framerate would be even worse at 1080p.

They don't have to go all the way to 1080 and they're blaming the framerate on the cpu (which really has no influence on the resolution anyway)

 

[Vire]

Oh fuck right off... I don't even know what to say to this.

 

[meanspartan]

Lets be honest- if this game reviews well most people on here claiming they won't buy it will probably buy it. They may even type out on the review thread "so conflicted guys! I want to play this game but also don't want to support forced parity!" as they are in line at Gamestop.

As for myself, forced parity is gross, but I was probably not going to get this anyway as Assassin's Creed hasn't felt fun to me in a while.

 

[EASTC0AST_GH05T]

The gap has closed.

this

 

[Pimpbaa]

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff,"

How fucking stupid are they? You don't admit this stuff. They have just created far more potential negative debates about this game than they would have just saying nothing about it being 900p.

 

[Auctopus]

Unless it comes to light that over-ambitious developers were the reason for 900p/30fps on PS4 and this is some bad marketing spin, then this has come off my buy list now.

 

[bananafactory]

Not sure why people are pissed at MS.

This is Ubisoft's decision, in the end.

 

[xbgamer]

Yes it would, because it would be due to technical limitations and developmental resources, which is disappointing but understandable.

Ubisoft is blatantly saying that they CAN reach a higher resolution on PS4 but CHOOSE not to because of parity. And on top of that, according to Videogamer, the framerate sucks.

If the framerate sucks at 900p then does that note mean it is a technical limitation? Would you rather they bump up the ps4 version to 1080p and have the framerate suffer even more?

 

[krypt0nian]

Sony does not have a warchest, they're bleeding money everywhere. They're lucky that the PS4 is even selling well.

Sony has the same amount of marketing deals as every year. So there goes that idea.

 

[twobear]

I don't know, I'm just talking out of my ass since I have no experience with this stuff. I just didn't know that something like a marketing/advertising deal could give a company sway over actual development of the game.

I thought it would only pertain to how they showed it off/talked about it in interviews etc.

Well, there is just no way that Ubisoft aren't being monetarily reimbursed for this. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever for them to do it otherwise.

It is distantly plausible, I guess, that the PS4 genuinely doesn't have the grunt for 1080p. But all else equal, if the Xbone can play the game at 900p then the PS4 should be able to do almost exactly the same thing at 1080p. That's more or less the gap in performance between them.

 

[theWB27]

Eh....I'll still be there. Not missing my fav franchise cause it's the same as the X1. It's stupid....but I want my creed.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

If the xbox one version was 720p this thread would be a lot different and everybody here knows it.

Well, yeah, it'd be a completely different topic. So, of course.

 

[silva1991]

so this time they went all out and admit it about the parity

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff,"

competition is good guys right?

 

[LTWood12]

On it's own it wouldn't be a big deal, but I don't like the precedent it sets. I'll buy it used if this is true.

 

[GeoramA]

LOL

The good news is I can cross it off my list of November games I was going to buy.

This is seriously complete bullshit. Fuck parity, fuck this series, and fuck Ubisoft.