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[markedbravado]

Right. Blame Microsoft for Ubi being lazy.

If u think MS wasn't behind this, then u really don't know MS. This was my biggest fear after the console specs were confirmed this gen. MS doesn't have as big a hand this gen at forcing this issue because it lags in sales, but it will surface every now and then for some big titles. Whatever interest I had in this title is gone now, just on principle. So weak mann. Last gen saw all kinds of 3rd party games running and looking better on 360. Parity was not issue because Sony wasn't giving out those money bags.

 

[omonimo]

I agree with you but the problem with that is some PS4 owners tend overblow their machines capabilites.



And will be till...? I don't ever think Sony imposed a mandatory resolution for games.

I don't think expect 1080p for a ps4 game when on xone it's 900p, it's overblow the machine. I suspect some people feel a sort of mystic pleasure to underplay this hardware

 

[ComputerBlue]

GamersGlobal.de says the E3-version of the game (PC) was considerably more impressive than the X1-version at the preview event in Paris.

Of course it was. It's Ubisoft, if a console can't handle it then that's fine, just make a great game, but don't lie. Seinfelds speech last night is a perfect example of what we should expect from Ubisoft.

 

[Masquerader]

0/10 not buying pre-order cancelled no 1080p no sell no good no definitely not getting thanks ubi

Honestly, I couldn't care less. I'll just see if the game's good or not.

 

[JimPanzer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WVDgPN_Gkk#t=3m

It's real

woah, what the actual fuck.

 

[Kuni]

Man. This is just disappointing. I have Farcry 4 on preorder and it sucks to think that this company just makes anti consumer decisions like this. I always try to support companies that clearly have the right focus: the consumer (I know all are evil, etc... but at least companies that actually show some thought about the consumer as well as their bottom line).

 

[Mass_Pincup]

People don't really think MS paid money to lower the resolution on PS4 do they?

Why not? It makes sense.

 

[secretanchitman]

This is very disappointing. I wasn't planning on buying Assasins Creeed Unity, but i can understand the frustration for those who are. Let's hope this is not going to be Ubisoft's policy moving forward.

Yep agreed. This is total nonsense - don't artificially hold back the PS4 version if it's clearly capable of more at Microsoft's request.

 

[Welfare]

Fixed

Well of course.

 

[Fortuneelsewhere]

That producer should’ve just kept his mouth shut. seriously. If both versions were 900p and with no statement behind it, then so be it. might disappoint a few, but it’s not unprecedented

but having this line out there about locking the res just to avoid debate about parity… man. that’s a dumb statement to make out loud. Now there’s all sorts of negative reactions that could have been easily avoided, otherwise.

Yeah shame on him for telling the truth... We like to be treated like a bunch of fools.. Take my money Ubisoft..

 

[Skilletor]

Watchdogs?

Wasn't the XB1 version 792p? There is zero reason for the versions to be sub 1080p at the same resolution when one console is demonstrably more powerful.

 

[Pathfinder]

People don't really think MS paid money to lower the resolution on PS4 do they?

I wouldn't be surprised if some people really think that. There's lots of conspiracy theories being thrown around this thread because of this news and emotions are running high.

 

[eso76]

What?

Source?

Source for this "obvious" fact?

Someone didn't read the OP.

Source ?

So you guys really believe devs came and said:
"We intentionally made the PS4 version look worse so that Xbone owners wouldn't complain"
Or rather:
"We worked our collective ass to ensure Xbone version would have the same specs as PS4's" ?

That statement may not have come across as intended, but it's incredible you people choose to read this as
"WE DOWNGRADED THE PS4 VERSION !!" when it's obviously "WE UPGRADED THE XBONE VERSION !" in their intentions.

They didn't lower PS4 specs to match Xbone's (at least this is not what they're saying: what dev in their right mind would even think about publicly making such claims ???)
What they mean is they raised XBone's to match PS4's.

And i guess you'll see for yourself when X1 version is shown to perform much worse.

Unless it has perfect or comparable framerate, in which case yeah, i guess that would be the proof PS4 version was gimped intentionally.

But with all the pressure from Microsoft (devs reported being approached by MS representatives who asked them to get the game on X1 running at the same res as PS4's) it's not hard to imagine someone from MS just told Ubi "look, we need to write the same figure as the PS4 under 'resolution' in the back of the box, we don't care if that makes the game run worse".

I don't believe they'd go as far as paying money to make the other version look worse, but like i said, performances will tell us.

 

[Flo_Evans]

I actually listen to this podcast. You can sometimes hear a bit bias but this was ... really weird for them to say... I was convinced devs would keep doing 720p cos power and it didn't matter but then I saw the difference day one and I was sold (on both a 32" and 47" tv).

I dunno what possessed them to say this...

Its not hard to guess. Most of these guys final career move is not to work at IGN. They want to work at MS or a big software dev.

The amount of free PR spin from the press around the X-one release was truly enlightening.

DRM for physical discs was a good move, 720p is good enough, kinect is amazing!

 

[Bold One]

A bit? A bit!? Ryan McCaffrey is the last person from partial when it comes to anything xbox related. Lest we forget:

And Mitch Dyer is nothing more than a mouth piece for anything xbox. He's the moron that thinks you can't tell the difference between resolutions. Hes even worse on Rebel FM when he has Arthur Gies around

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=707247

there is no way that is real

 

[Donthizz#]

knew this was going to happen when Ubisoft announced that it signed a promotional deal with MS for this game, sigh....

 

[hawk2025]

People don't really think MS paid money to lower the resolution on PS4 do they?

Do you know what a Most Favored Nation clause is in a contract?

there is no way that is real

I would hardly say that's the worst of it. Gies literally revealed information that we now know pertains to Sony directly to their competitor. He then proceeded to delete the tweet:

 

[Huggers]

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff,"

or

"We decided to lock them at the same specs because MS gave us a fuckton of money"

The second one seems like it makes more sense, no? I mean just look at this fucking thread :lol

I agree it makes more sense. It's just such shocking behaviour I'd like to put it down to Ubisoft laziness rather than more cash getting unnecessarily thrown about

 

[The Silver]

Ubisoft must be run by Vince McMahon.

 

[Patroclos]

What the fuck is this?

Dem "workingman's graphics".

 

[KOHIPEET]

Assasin's Creed Unity |OT| In eye-popping parity

 

[Xion_Stellar]

Sorry but I don't support this kinda of nonsense about Parity. It wasn't done to Black Flag so I don't see why it has to be done to Unity. Oh well I'm no longer picking this one up on release day so I will wait until it hits the used bargain bin.

 

[Orniletter]

Assassin's Creed Unity |OT| Liberty, Fraternity, Parity

Thats damn good ! Liberté, égalité, fraternité.....parité....

I still like the (slightly modified) idea of a fellow gaffer" Par(i)ty in Paris "

 

[Toki767]

Source ?

So you guys really believe devs came and said:
"We intentionally made the PS4 version look worse so that Xbone owners wouldn't complain"
Or rather:
"We worked our collective ass to ensure Xbone version would have the same specs as PS4's" ?

That statement may not have come across as intended, but it's incredible you people choose to read this as
"WE DOWNGRADED THE PS4 VERSION !!" when it's obviously "WE UPGRADED THE XBONE VERSION !" in their intentions.

They didn't lower PS4 specs to match Xbone's (at least this is not what they're saying: what dev in their right mind would even think about publicly making such claims ???)
What they mean is they raised XBone's to match PS4's.

And i guess you'll see for yourself when X1 version is shown to perform much worse.

Unless it has perfect or comparable framerate, in which case yeah, i guess that would be the proof PS4 version was gimped intentionally.

But with all the pressure from Microsoft (devs reported being approached by MS representatives who asked them to get the game on X1 running at the same res as PS4's) it's not hard to imagine someone from MS just told Ubi "look, we need to write the same figure as the PS4 under 'resolution' in the back of the box, we don't care if that makes the game run worse".

I don't believe they'd go as far as paying money to make the other version look worse, but like i said, performances will tell us.

Well the preview said the build ran kind of crappy on an Xbox One, but they also said the PS4 version was the same. So obviously you can draw your own conclusions as to which one it was.

 

[Jobbs]

People don't really think MS paid money to lower the resolution on PS4 do they?

yes.

what other reason is there? to avoid discussion....?

people don't do things without reasons.

 

[Sean*O]

Source ?

So you guys really believe devs came and said:
"We intentionally made the PS4 version look worse so that Xbone owners wouldn't complain"
Or rather:
"We worked our collective ass to ensure Xbone version would have the same specs as PS4's" ?

That statement may not have come across as intended, but it's incredible you people choose to read this as
"WE DOWNGRADED THE PS4 VERSION !!" when it's obviously "WE UPGRADED THE XBONE VERSION !" in their intentions.

They didn't lower PS4 specs to match Xbone's (at least this is not what they're saying: what dev in their right mind would even think about publicly making such claims ???)
What they mean is they raised XBone's to match PS4's.

And i guess you'll see for yourself when X1 version is shown to perform much worse.

Unless it has perfect or comparable framerate, in which case yeah, i guess that would be the proof PS4 version was gimped intentionally.

But with all the pressure from Microsoft (devs reported being approached by MS representatives who asked them to get the game on X1 running at the same res as PS4's) it's not hard to imagine someone from MS just told Ubi "look, we need to write the same figure as the PS4 under 'resolution' in the back of the box, we don't care if that makes the game run worse".

I don't believe they'd go as far as paying money to make the other version look worse, but like i said, performances will tell us.

Not sure if serious

 

[impact]

I agree it makes more sense. It's just such shocking behaviour I'd like to put it down to Ubisoft laziness rather than more cash getting unnecessarily thrown about

Ubisoft laziness MIGHT make sense if Assassins Creed PS4 and Watch Dogs PS4 didn't completely mop up the XB1 versions in sales. Why would they put in extra effort on the version that will 100% sell worse? It sucks, but moneyhats is really the only way something like this could happen.

 

[teknix]

I sense a release date delay announcement for Unity is upon us real soon.

 

[stew]

People don't really think MS paid money to lower the resolution on PS4 do they?

Yes, like the game was perfectly running at 1080p and then they decided to drop it to 900p because they received money from MS.

 

[Kuni]

A bit? A bit!? Ryan McCaffrey is the last person from partial when it comes to anything xbox related. Lest we forget:

And Mitch Dyer is nothing more than a mouth piece for anything xbox. He's the moron that thinks you can't tell the difference between resolutions. Hes even worse on Rebel FM when he has Arthur Gies around

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=707247

Mitch can be bad yeah. Ryan can be... taken by his fanboyism shall we say. But then again so can I with Sony so I guess I let him slide a little. Guess I just find it interesting to listen to a different bias?

Don't get me wrong though I disagree with many a thing they say. Especially regarding Kinect and all of the Xbone defense nonsense. I just like to try and understand where they come from. I'm much more of a Moriarty\Miller guy *hides*

 

[prateeko]

This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read

 

[Muppet of a Man]

yes but, the very previous ubisoft game, the one that sony had the marketing deal on,
it was ....guess what..... 900p on ps4. and 30fps too.

this one is more demanding, their problem is cpu -as they say in the same article that is discussed here- the xbone does not have a disadvantage on cpu, but the opposite,
yet its xbox that is holding back the ps4. once again....

does not compute very much, but whatever...

This is not necessarily true...at least according to a post by Matt sometime back.

 

[meanspartan]

A bit? A bit!? Ryan McCaffrey is the last person from partial when it comes to anything xbox related. Lest we forget:

And Mitch Dyer is nothing more than a mouth piece for anything xbox. He's the moron that thinks you can't tell the difference between resolutions. Hes even worse on Rebel FM when he has Arthur Gies around

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=707247

WOW at those tweets. Is there any other industry where supposed journalists get away with that?

 

[Hugstable]

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff,"

or

"We decided to lock them at the same specs because MS gave us a fuckton of money"

The second one seems like it makes more sense, no? I mean just look at this fucking thread :lol

Or the engine is running like shit and instead of telling you that they had no idea what to say and got we heard today. Everyone is jumping on Microsoft with no evidence that they actually did something so shady. I don't even give a crap about Microsoft consoles, but it's getting a bit crazy that everyone is attacking each other like this and damning Microsoft like they are sure this is what really happened. I say we wait and see what comes from this, I expect the game to be delayed as I feel they really got incompentant with this engine and are rushing the game out way too early.

 

[HowZatOZ]

Resolution discussion brings out the immaturity in everyone, hilarious times. For me I'm not too bothered as I'll be picking it up on PC, however I'm hoping it doesn't limit anything on that side.

 

[Seventy70]

Source ?

So you guys really believe devs came and said:
"We intentionally made the PS4 version look worse so that Xbone owners wouldn't complain"
Or rather:
"We worked our collective ass to ensure Xbone version would have the same specs as PS4's" ?

That statement may not have come across as intended, but it's incredible you people choose to read this as
"WE DOWNGRADED THE PS4 VERSION !!" when it's obviously "WE UPGRADED THE XBONE VERSION !" in their intentions.

They didn't lower PS4 specs to match Xbone's (at least this is not what they're saying: what dev in their right mind would even think about publicly making such claims ???)
What they mean is they raised XBone's to match PS4's.

And i guess you'll see for yourself when X1 version is shown to perform much worse.

Unless it has perfect or comparable framerate, in which case yeah, i guess that would be the proof PS4 version was gimped intentionally.

But with all the pressure from Microsoft (devs reported being approached by MS representatives who asked them to get the game on X1 running at the same res as PS4's) it's not hard to imagine someone from MS just told Ubi "look, we need to write the same figure as the PS4 under 'resolution' in the back of the box, we don't care if that makes the game run worse".

I don't believe they'd go as far as paying money to make the other version look worse, but like i said, performances will tell us.

It would be impossible for them to get the same performance as the PS4 because it's simply just more powerful. They cant just pull that extra power out of their ass.

 

[Robot Pants]

I can't wait for a 25+ page thread

You're in one

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Far Cry 4 will be fine since Sony is doing some of the marketing for that. I really doubt both versions will be the same.

 

[Daviii]

Right. Blame Microsoft for Ubi being lazy.

Yeah. Lazy. Because they actively hold back PS4 version because lazyne$$

 

[Lord of Castamere]

Ubisoft must be run by Vince McMahon.

Nah even Vince MacMahon sees the Ps4 as the horse to back. Last gen it was 100% 360 marketing for the dub dub games this year 100% PS4.

 

[itsgreen]

I am sorry but this is bull-fucking-shit Not buying it, and not buying it...

 

[thelastword]

Not buying anything below 1080p for my PS4!

I haven't bought a sub-truehd game either, I've passed too many 1920*1200 monitors years ago and my tv has been 1080p for almost a decade. I just can't do it closing in on 2015. Lower details if you have too, there are too many great looking 1080p open world games out there for me to believe I have to lower my standards.

 

[DigitalDevil]

I'll still be buying it, but the flames in this thread are positively SCORCHING. If you don't like don't buy etc..

 

[MeshuggahMan]

Conspiracy theory! Lets go deeper.....

What if... Ubi received money hat... Skimmed over "must be parity" clause... And intentionally said this to cause a giant uproar!! =p

I do not support tactics like this. I work hard at my job to make money to afford games that I trust developers/companies put the same amount of effort in to. Saying something like that.... I'm out. Pass.

 

[NickFire]

I wouldn't be surprised. There's lots of conspiracy theories being thrown around this thread because of this news.

Isn't just this news. MS has a history of shady practices this generation, and is desperate to do anything it can to avoid a full holiday season being outsold 2-1 or worse. And do you really think a publisher would really risk pissing off 2/3 of the current generation install base without some sort of concession from MS?

 

[QuantumZebra]

People don't really think MS paid money to lower the resolution on PS4 do they?

You're kidding right? Do you REALLY think Ubisoft sat there and said "You know what, we are going to make both consoles the same, because that would avoid any kind of debate on why one is more powerful than the other."

And if you really do think that - you must in turn believe that Ubisoft is run by a bunch of incompetent crab-people.


.... ok maybe that's not so far off.

 

[Onaco]

This is literally the first game I will ever cancel a preorder over. I thought it was fully co-op and wanted to play with my roommate, but it wasn't. I thought it was going to be amazing on the PS4 but it wasn't. Will wait for Steam sale. Not putting up with this shit, Ubisoft. Preorder canceled.

 

[K.Jack]

Then again we do get exclusive features.

Yeah they fooled me with those, when Watch_Dogs was coming, and we see how that turned out.

Never again.

 

[OneEyeTwoHead]

Source ?

So you guys really believe devs came and said:
"We intentionally made the PS4 version look worse so that Xbone owners wouldn't complain"
Or rather:
"We worked our collective ass to ensure Xbone version would have the same specs as PS4's" ?

That statement may not have come across as intended, but it's incredible you people choose to read this as
"WE DOWNGRADED THE PS4 VERSION !!" when it's obviously "WE UPGRADED THE XBONE VERSION !" in their intentions.

They didn't lower PS4 specs to match Xbone's (at least this is not what they're saying: what dev in their right mind would even think about publicly making such claims ???)
What they mean is they raised XBone's to match PS4's.

And i guess you'll see for yourself when X1 version is shown to perform much worse.

Unless it has perfect or comparable framerate, in which case yeah, i guess that would be the proof PS4 version was gimped intentionally.

But with all the pressure from Microsoft (devs reported being approached by MS representatives who asked them to get the game on X1 running at the same res as PS4's) it's not hard to imagine someone from MS just told Ubi "look, we need to write the same figure as the PS4 under 'resolution' in the back of the box, we don't care if that makes the game run worse".

I don't believe they'd go as far as paying money to make the other version look worse, but like i said, performances will tell us.

All of this would make sense if the PS4 wasn't more powerful. If the differences between the 2 systems were a LOT closer, sure.

And the only "debate" the producer is referring to is the one we've been constantly having with the PS4 > Xbone in multiplatforms. There's no other debate to refernece.

 

[Pathfinder]

I haven't bought a sub-truehd game either, I've passed too many 1920*1200 monitors years ago and my tv has been 1080p for almost a decade. I just can't do it closing in on 2015. Lower details if you have too, there are too many great looking 1080p open world games out there for me to believe I have to lower my standards.

Have you ever heard the phrase "Don't judge a book by its cover"?