Neuromancer
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Did someone say my name?
Assassin's Creed "Parity": Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One
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They have money and lots of it.
Chobel
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I don't see anything wrong here. Obviously the goal they want to reach is "whatever the hell Xbone can do"
The PS4 version of Diablo 3 runs at 1080p/60 with a solid frame rate.
I guess that before MS paid off Blizzard, it was running at 120fps... lol
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-diablo-3-ultimate-evil-face-off
But why would Ubisoft do that on purpose if there is nothing to gain? It's not like they are spending shit ton of resources to increase res by 180p.
WhiskerFrisker
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All I'm saying is that nothing is denied either.
SlowRevolution
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exactly, you'd think people would have learned to shut up after the xbox one killed used games and dominated in sales
theviolenthero
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This game was previewed by a ton of sites today and everyone has noted that the frame-rate is all over the place. This is from a game that releases in about 30 days and it was previously delayed by 2 weeks. If you read between the lines it's obvious that the choppy frame-rate is the issue for this game. This is all happening at 900p.
Your tweet is in Jason's story. Congrats, hehe.
CassidyIzABeast
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In regards to the 1080/60 thing...its Ubisoft. This is what they do. The target render/ bullshot champions of the world have yet again over-promised and under delivered.
The framerate looked pretty bad in the clips they were showing. All the clips were from the X1 version from what I could tell.
so they're holding back the PS4 version, but the idea that MS has anything to do with it is going off the deep end? it's the most logical explanation right now. they didn't wake up one day and decide randomly to hold back the PS4 version. there's a reason for things.
thelastcrusader
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Enough said.
Pathfinder
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I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you for proof of this "forced parity" that you speak of that you say has already taken place.
Chobel
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Framerate stabilization usually happens in latest stages of development, so framerate should be a lot better in the final build.
Impeccable
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I don't think Microsoft paid for parity.
I do think the marketing agreement is very carefully worded in the fact that even if there wasn't parity they couldn't have that information out before release. Ubisoft decided it was just easier to make them the same to be better safe than sorry.
The problem is, they admitted it.
Should have just shut up and let DF spill the beans.
I do think the marketing agreement is very carefully worded in the fact that even if there wasn't parity they couldn't have that information out before release. Ubisoft decided it was just easier to make them the same to be better safe than sorry.
The problem is, they admitted it.
Should have just shut up and let DF spill the beans.
mercenar1e
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yeah it should be a lot better now that it's running at 900p.
Enough said.
Good.
This is the best way to send a message to these clowns. More will undoubtedly follow.
That is what I'm hoping for. Perhaps it will have better image quality and more effects going on for it as well. Either way, I'm sticking with it because I do still want to play the game. No sense in denying myself that because of this mess.
Enough said.
So edgy.
Shin-Ra
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Who uses a lace doily to bandage their bleeding middle leg?I didn't read the article but man that looks like a penis.
Interficium
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Enough said.
You are so brave to cancel that zero dollars down preorder.
Death Metalist
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Exactly my thoughts. It seems to me they are doing too much, too fast and thus want to take the lazy route instead of working to the absolute best of both consoles. Is it even their best team working on Unity? I know AC has like a million teams assigned to the franchise.
I seriously doubt you would've had 1080p/60fps even if the XB1 had comparable power to the PS4.
The Shogun
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And its entirely possible MS had nothing tp do with holding back resolution. It could be sheer coincidence with the marketing deal I'm fine with accepting that.
But if this game runs the same on both consoles despite the hardware differences Ubisoft programmers have fucked up their engine development to insane bounds.
The resolution is being held back either way. Likely by Ubis own decision but from a dev standpoint how the hell does the engine perform the same despite the power gap.
SyenceLabb
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Enough said.
shit just got real.
Is this some parity policy over at Ubisoft? It was just recently Ubisoft who also brought up a desire for parity on the Crew where they said:
Death Metalist
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You and me both.
CitizenCope
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Holy 80 pages later and people like you still don't get that it's about much more than resolution.
corrosivefrost
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Parity in the resolution department.
I never said MS sabotaged the PS4 version, just that having a 60fps framerate at sub-1080p wasn't acceptable apparently.
In a way, it's like when Apple decided to move to Intel based processors instead of using Power. The Power processors they were using were arguably better, but they couldn't explain that to "Average Joe consumer"... so they needed to change their oranges to apples so consumers wouldn't think they were losing out because PCs had intel chips with higher clock speeds. If MS is seeing a ton of negative press about the Xbone not being able to match the 1080p resolution of the PS4 and they perceive that's what their customers are taking away (hey, it's not 1080p like on PS4), then they were willing to sacrifice the solid framerate (on Xbone; again, nothing here with the PS4 version) and force blizzard to put out a 1080p game for the sake of "parity".
Not exactly the same thing, but proof they don't mind getting their hands dirty over these things.
Gamespot | Xbox One's controversial indie "launch parity" clause will continue
CVG | Xbox parity clause shuns Titan Attacks, The Swapper and MouseCraft
Mentioning three games that this didn't occur with is probably as iron clad as my (and other's) pure speculation. It means nothing. Hell, mentioning three games, from three different developers, that all highlighted disparity in graphics between the two systems, conversely makes me wonder why Ubisoft wasn't able to do what seemingly everyone else could (including Ubisoft with AC4).
And you could easily argue, games like these, (two out of three being launch games) were the cause for the infamous "resolutiongate" debate, and games like AC:U are the effect. Microsoft's response, having tested the waters at first by doing nothing and seeing the negative press garnered from previous games, may be to take a more proactive approach in ensuring parity and dissuading "debate" going forward.
A. I don't see how it gains them nothing. It gains them finally being able to say the Xbox version is right on par with PS4, something they haven't been able to say with many third party games prior.
B. They're clearly not too upset about generating negative buzz. The Tombraider exclusivity and Minecraft buyout both weren't exactly unanimously lauded.
Plus, I imagine if they did pay, there's some NDA in place, and no one will ever definitively know about it.
Look, I'd love to be assured Ubisoft is just being lazy (it's entirely possible), but this reeks of Microsoft interference. Since before the console race even took off, there was rumors of Microsoft paying for parity. I don't recall what became of those rumors, but given Microsoft's very public deals as of late, it's hard for me to see this as a completely innocuous coincidence.
So you getting the xbone version now?
Enough said.
What is it about then?
travisbickle
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I don't believe money changes hands specifically for this, but I'm sure the $20 million* co-marketing deal had an influence. All it takes is one person in one meeting saying "I think there's an issue if we release at different spec" for the idea to be set that parity is the best course of action.
*That's a guess, marketing is big money though?
They forced blizzard to drop the framerate to 60fps? What are you smoking?
Muffdraul
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Seriously, for me the most shocking and jaw dropping thing is that the idiot opened his mouth in the first place.
Yeah, that's the thing that I don't get at all (as I said in my previous posts). They should have simply said the game is 900p on both systems and left it at that. There would have been a bit of controversy but many people would have assumed that the PS4 version was better in some other ways outside of resolution.
So stupid. Still trying to understand how they thought this wouldn't be the reaction. Simply amazing.
Pathfinder
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That's not even the same thing as forcing performance parity. They are two completely different things.
What's bravery got to do with anything?
^ ugh.
30fps makes sense if they're CPU limited, and these console CPUs are limited. Resolution less so maybe, but there could be other slight differences.
A few more frames on average doesn't always allow for any significant res bump, if the lows are still low. There's not much between the consoles, differences will differ.
30fps makes sense if they're CPU limited, and these console CPUs are limited. Resolution less so maybe, but there could be other slight differences.
A few more frames on average doesn't always allow for any significant res bump, if the lows are still low. There's not much between the consoles, differences will differ.
Was just about to bring up CBOAT
The reward is that they have a better system and unless a publisher/developer/platform holder forces parity, you're almost guaranteed to have a superior console version of games.
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