lol. misterx levels of horse shit. MS doesn't have some magic superpowered version of Jaguar.
Assassin's Creed "Parity": Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One
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lol. misterx levels of horse shit. MS doesn't have some magic superpowered version of Jaguar.
scoobs
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what exactly are you quoting here? I've never seen this before... and considering they're the exact same CPU, I find it literally impossible to believe.
Edit: who is Yomar Hernandez exactly? Should I know who this guy is
Pathfinder
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Wow, some people really can't take a joke...
And are you seriously putting a negative spin on Microsoft sending engineers to Blizzard to help them get the most out of their console?
Optimizing is suddenly a bad thing?
Night Angel
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And that name is supposed to mean something to me...? Even Google doesn't know who that is.
With almost the same CPU and clock speed, I find that hard to believe.
cheezcake
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It is impossible. Same arcitechture, you're not gonna get a change in ops per cycle without changing some fundamental hardware in the pipelining process which would change the architecture.
They are offering up deal after deal in order to raise sales, and even tried to butt in on Sony's exclusive Destiny marketing deal.
Didn't Sony do the same thing with "retailer bundles" for FIFA?
Yoshi
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If something like what he posted leads to bans, then I'm really baffled. But since this will probably apply to my post above, too, I'll elaborate:
I doubt that you could just take the Xbone game, bump it to 60fps (this is being made clear from the comments anyway, the AI behaviour would probably be rather sloppy then, it already was at Gamescom and they didn't have too much time to improve on that) or 1080p without sacrificing consistency. 30fps locked is making for a better experience than a framerate flipping back and forth in the 30-60 range. Also, 900p @30fps is probably making for a better experience than 1080p @unstable 30fps. So, using the same specs can absolutely be good to avoid debates of the kind we already had with previous games where PS4 specs where better technically, but a more unstable performance was the result of bumped specs, too.
And I stand by the point: Independent of if a performance boost would be possible without much work / optimization issues, this superiority complex as of late is getting on my nerves considerably. In a case like Skyrim, where one version plays really badly, I can understand complaining and absolutely agree with this, but 900p @30fps are specs where a game like ACU can absolutely be a great experience. Not playing it, although you'd like the gameplay because of some theoretical minor technical improvement that could have been is a joke and if NeoGAF moderation is mad at me for rolling my eyes at such behaviour, then so be it.
StrongBlackVine
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They did it for Call Of Duty and Battlefield 4 last year. Every publisher isn't as crappy as Ubisoft. We will see how Inquisition, The Witcher 3 and Evolve turn out.
simplythebest
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/wegamehere/
It's from a post in that group discussing this very topic. Apparently he must of either seen a "real" the spec sheets or used some kind of fucking math to get to those numbers. I dunno, but I know it didn't seem right
EmptySpace
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cousins aren't reliable sources, just so you know.
I am not angry. But if we don't care we'll get parity for all Ubisoft and then maybe all 3rd party games.
I don't care about resolution or fps, but then at least use the power for something else.
boredandlazy
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Not as insignificant as your contribution to this thread.
Zombie James
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Like DRM.
EmptySpace
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Doctor_Thomas
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Sometimes I also misunderstand what the core issue is, but that's OK.
You mean like cod ghosts?
Night Angel
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Derpcrawler
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It's CPU performance, it's so weak, that even Intel Atoms will outperform them, Core i3 will run laps around current gen console CPUs. They don't even contribute 10% of total power of the console, the difference comes from GPUs, not CPUs. If what Ubisoft say is true, then reason is exactly this - game is CPU bound because of extremely weak netbooks/tablet CPU (even though I would see if it was regarding framerate, but resolution - I don't know).
TAJ
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Doesn't mean much. MS is more desperate now.
Well maybe Sony moneyhatted that game so ubisoft would gimp xbone version.. Harharhar...
Well they have kinda explained that in the previous games where the Animus comes built in with a translation software, and every time they slip in foreign language it's just the system being glitchy. Didn't Desmond also compliment on subtitles in the sequels since the first animus version (AC1) didn't have it?
SlowRevolution
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you're writing this on a website about video games
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You don't actually believe that, do you? That's rubbish.
SwiftDeath
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There are more sides to this thread and discussion then "parity? pre-order cancelled" and "900p versus 1080p is small anyways so what does it matter?"
Purposefully limiting your product on one platfrom to appease a different platform holder or its fans is objectively anti-consumer so while it is indeed likely a small concession however one wants to argue the change of resolution, it is entirely bad form on publishers and developers. Imagine if every developer/publisher wanted to seek parity across all PC/consoles ports and nerfed the PC port/limited options etc. It's just entirely in poor taste and benefits no one but a single platform holders image
So, it's preposterous to assume that a native current-gen game's resolution could match that of its cross-gen ancestor from last year? And yet, Xbox One was somehow able to do exactly that while PS4 was not? Come on.
That is something which was originated in a beyond 3D thread and then manipulated by fanboys at will, and made bullshit in the process.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1738476&postcount=3303
There's no architectural difference in the Jaguar CPUs between both consoles. At least not what's hugely implied.
Furthermore it was confirmed by devs that one can get MORE from PS4 CPU due to audio/networking having dedicated silicon and no kinect resource usage. I don't know if that still holds true.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=94264594
Bottom line PS4 is more powerful than XBox One in every area. There's no cloud magic, 6op/cycle magic,eSRAM magic. CPU is near parity. GPU on PS4 has 50% more raw power. End of story.
Yoshi
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That's not insignificant and if Microsoft or Sony offered me the chance to choose between an always-online console where every game runs at 60fps, 1080p with improved textures lighting and effects or a system where everything runs as it does on Xbone, I wouldn't even need to think a split second about which system I'd get. You cannot compare this, at all. And I find it really distracting that dissenting opinions are met with "Leave the thread". You're claiming you want to discuss this, but what kind of discussion is it, where only one side is allowed to speak?
Deserves to be banned for such a useless post.
Night Angel
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Like, why discuss video games at all? There are real people having real problems out there, y'know.
GayForMaster
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lol wow.
*Wake up and see this as top thread*
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*2:10 AM, about to go to sleep but want to read up some stuff and see this as top thread*
Parity is SERIOUS SHIT.
*Wake up and see this as top thread*
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*2:10 AM, about to go to sleep but want to read up some stuff and see this as top thread*
Parity is SERIOUS SHIT.
The Cretan
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It's possible that MS is behind this, but not surely. However, I believe they are behind them because for the reasons posted by Quadraphonic.
source?
Because i think i found out where you got this, but i want to give you the benefit of the doubt.
I guess I'll get the PC version then. Oh wait, they don't give a shit about their PC ports either.
I prefer 1080p obviously but I don't mind 900p for some games if it's absolutely needed, but to say it's for parity to avoid debate is enough to make me wait for a while. Resolution is extremely noticeable on open world games especially and the comparisons between Black Flag before and after the 1080p patch shows you why some people would be mad at this.
It's pretty obvious the issue here is WHY the said it's 900p.
I prefer 1080p obviously but I don't mind 900p for some games if it's absolutely needed, but to say it's for parity to avoid debate is enough to make me wait for a while. Resolution is extremely noticeable on open world games especially and the comparisons between Black Flag before and after the 1080p patch shows you why some people would be mad at this.
It's pretty obvious the issue here is WHY the said it's 900p.
I don't think it's outrage. It's just realizing, that the PS4 is not that powerful, as the internet is over hyping it.
People can't believe it, so they're bulding tales to realize (MS moneyhat...)
Next multi platform title somebody should start a thread about "not using azure technology to outsource and improve AI on MS console"...
Sony should start their business...
fastballspecial
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I bought the most powerful console on the market to get the best looking and playing games, not to avoid debates.
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Sucks. I love the series but I can't support this anti consumer bullshit.
StrongBlackVine
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I don't think it's outrage. It's just realizing, that the PS4 is not that powerful, as the internet is over hyping it.
People can't believe it, so they're bulding tales to realize (MS moneyhat...)
Next multi platform title somebody should start a thread about "not using azure technology to outsource and improve AI on MS console"...
Sony should start their business...
Interesting narrative you have concocted. Complete bullshit though!
Windom Earle
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Crossing Eden
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Predictable. Doing overtime for Ubisoft and DSP damage control.
I don't think it's outrage. It's just realizing, that the PS4 is not that powerful, as the internet is over hyping it.
People can't believe it, so they're bulding tales to realize (MS moneyhat...)
Next multi platform title somebody should start a thread about "not using azure technology to outsource and improve AI on MS console"...
Sony should start their business...
Except that isn't what has happened here.
But keep fucking that console war chicken. Or keep trolling, its indistinguishable between the two.
FinalStageBoss
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I'd be pissed if I actually gave a shit about a ubisift game 
. Sucks for you guys that do. They don't optimize for PC now they're not even doing it for consoles lol
. Sucks for you guys that do. They don't optimize for PC now they're not even doing it for consoles lolDoctor_Thomas
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It's not as bad as DRM, but still comparable. We have a situation here where a publisher has intentionally opted for parity to avoid a debate about parity rather than use both devices to the best of their ability, there's no reason a PS4 version of any game should be the same as the XB1 version EVER. So, that begs the question, why would Ubisoft opt for this? Why would this Microsoft advertisement led game opt for a resolution more common on the XB1 than PS4? Why would they be targetting 1080p/60fps 3 months ago, to end with 900p/30fps today? Why is this allowed to happen?
I don't think it's outrage. It's just realizing, that the PS4 is not that powerful, as the internet is over hyping it.
People can't believe it, so they're bulding tales to realize (MS moneyhat...)
Next multi platform title somebody should start a thread about "not using azure technology to outsource and improve AI on MS console"...
Sony should start their business...
Explain why PS4 wins DF face-offs 9.99/10 times?
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