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[Son of Godzilla]

I really can't believe it's all being handed to Obama on a silver plate. It's just too much. Too perfect. I need my wife's cynicism to take me down a notch. She's all about "I'll believe it when it happens" and ignores any and all poll numbers I throw at her. She's the anchor that keeps me from floating away to the heady skies of Hopium.

Dude what are you talking about. This election has been over for a long time. Ever since places started using electronic ballots.

 

[Stoney Mason]

Wow. That interviewer was terrible. Even some Fox News interviews are tame compared to the shilling here.

I like how she mentioned Sweden as if it was the greatest hell hole on Earth. I'm surprised she didn't go all in with Cuba.

 

[Tamanon]

Well that and Bush could have Bin Laden and be waiting for the right moment to show him to the world.

I think we're long past that working to McCain's advantage. For now it's better for him for there to be "threats" out there instead of captured/killed.

 

[JzeroT1437]

:lol "I don't know who's writing your questions..."

That's got to be one of the best political interviews I've ever watched.

 

[scorcho]

shouldnt we be testing them tho? i dont think that was too ballsey of a thing to say, not like obama saying he would bomb Pakistan lol *just a joke not flame bait, dont want my name changed again

What does 'testing' them mean? What type of policy results from an attempt to 'test' a state or NSA?

It's mindless xenophobic pandering that provides nothing constructive, like countless other McCain gabs. As to Obama's policy, while I'm not completely supportive of it, there is something to be said of attacking known locations where NSAs are and where the local government is either unable or unwilling to attack.

 

[Banjo Tango]

:lol "I don't know who's writing your questions..."

And when where does she get off bad-mouthing Sweden? Seriously, vad fan? Are there numbers any of these people would like to cite to show Sweden is some kind of hellish Stalinist distopia?

 

[artist]

Ten more days...

10 MORE

 

[Chichikov]

I was kidding but the current Bush in office ran on the promise of a more humble foreign policy where we didn't involve ourselves in other nation's affairs and nation-build. 9/11 changed everything of course is their new rationalization.

You may have been kidding, but you are actually half right.
The US engagements in Kosovo and Somalia were heavily criticized by members of the GOP.

 

[Tamanon]

You may have been kidding, but you are actually half right.
The US engagements in Kosovo and Somalia were heavily criticized by members of the GOP.

Yup, in fact McCain was one of the biggest foes, which makes his cheerleading for Iraq and Iran even more hilarious.

 

[syllogism]

I just watched Clinton's inauguration and now I can't wait to hear "I, Barack HUSSEIN Obama"

 

[JzeroT1437]

alot can be said for ignoring it until the problem becomes large enough to draw us in. You ignore a problem and its gonna get bigger. Its no doubt the middle east is a global issue, we should be discussing on how to handle it, and not whether or not to handle it.

You can "handle" an issue regarding international affairs without "testing" the country that's in question. There need be no hostility. If you believe the "middle east" to be the hostile ones in our current situation, perhaps you should look at who went to war with who, and what the goals of said war turned out to be.

 

[ZeroTolerance]

Here's the McCain interview by comparison.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/index.html

First question: "Why haven't you hit Obama on ACORN?"

http://www.wftv.com/video/17712615/index.html?rss=orlc&psp=news

correct link.

 

[MaddenNFL64]

Damn that interview with Biden was absurd. Only nutjobs think TAX CUTS amounts to Marxism. Complete whackjobs.

 

[Spire]

Omg the democrat's bar graph is only marginally bigger than the rebuplicans oh noe!

I guess you didn't take a look at the numbers on the left side of the graph.

 

[Slurpy]

Hostile local TV interview with Biden:

http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/index.html

Wow, what a stupid bitch. You can feel the condescending hate in her voice. Biden did swimmingly though, making it clear how absurd her questions/assertions were.

 

[ColdDeckEd]

Hostile local TV interview with Biden:

http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/index.html

Wow... one of the most biased interviews I have ever seen. EVER. What's worse, is that its a local channel for me

 

[Particle Physicist]

Hostile local TV interview with Biden:

http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/index.html

that video is not working for me.. any youtube links?

 

[reilo]

I guess you didn't take a look at the numbers on the left side of the graph.

The laffer curve in reverse?

 

[The Librarian]

For Mike Bloomberg as president.
:/

 

[dasein]

that video is not working for me.. any youtube links?

here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKGiOY72ru4

 

[ZeroTolerance]

here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKGiOY72ru4

lol

 

[MaddenNFL64]

I don't remember seeing these in this thread. Pretty pictures are pretty:

http://i37.tinypic.com/o5vr5d.png
http://i36.tinypic.com/2a0jd6p.png

Omg the democrat's bar graph is only marginally bigger than the rebuplicans oh noe!

*checks ballots cast measure*

I see...

 

[Frank the Great]

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102408/content/01125111.guest.html

What a warped fucking sense of reality this guy has.

Sure, keep spurning the GOP moderates, fundies. Doom the Republican party to minority status for another generation. We won't mind, really.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

War crazy Clinton?

What?

How about the obvious?

Damn your edit!

Where'd you read that Bartlet was based on Obama?

Not Bartlett... Matthew Santos

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/21/barackobama.uselections2008

 

[Macam]

Hostile local TV interview with Biden:

http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/index.html

:lol :lol

That was a riot, thanks for the link. I almost spit my coffee out when Biden asked, "Is that a real question...?"

 

[JzeroT1437]

Does anybody else see this election heading through this process:

Somewhat close election
Obama Wins
McCain raises ACORN grievances
ACORN investigation
Obama concedes out of modesty mid-investigation
4 more years of garbage

 

[AndyIsTheMoran]

You can "handle" an issue regarding international affairs without "testing" the country that's in question. There need be no hostility. If you believe the "middle east" to be the hostile ones in our current situation, perhaps you should look at who went to war with who, and what the goals of said war turned out to be.

There never needs to be hostility? i hope you don't believe that. World trade center bombings, embassy bombings, military base bombings all were around years before Iraq or Afghanistan. Even if we pulled out all our influence in these regions, our support of Israel is enough alone to harbor hatred and attacks for us.

 

[BrokenFiction]

Wow... one of the most biased interviews I have ever seen. EVER. What's worse, is that its a local channel for me

Me too, but I'm glad I never watch it now.

Barbara "Shill" West: "So Senator Biden, let's talk John McCain. Awesome maverick or awesomest maverick?"

JB: "Wait...what?" *laughs, then skewers alive*

 

[Chichikov]

I don't remember seeing these in this thread. Pretty pictures are pretty:

http://i37.tinypic.com/o5vr5d.png
http://i36.tinypic.com/2a0jd6p.png

Omg the democrat's bar graph is only marginally bigger than the rebuplicans oh noe!

Now with more unified y axis!

 

[Tamanon]

Does anybody else see this election heading through this process:

Somewhat close election
Obama Wins
McCain raises ACORN grievances
ACORN investigation
Obama concedes out of modesty mid-investigation
4 more years of garbage

:lol :lol Yes, that's exactly what will happen!

 

[crisdecuba]

Does anybody else see this election heading through this process:

Somewhat close election
Obama Wins
McCain raises ACORN grievances
ACORN investigation
Obama concedes out of modesty mid-investigation
4 more years of garbage

Nope. Disagree. Not likely. Not at all.

 

[The Librarian]

Does anybody else see this election heading through this process:

Somewhat close election
Obama Wins
McCain raises ACORN grievances
ACORN investigation
Obama concedes out of modesty mid-investigation
4 more years of garbage

What? Why would you? This makes no sense.:lol :lol

 

[TDG]

There never needs to be hostility? i hope you don't believe that. World trade center bombings, embassy bombings, military base bombings all were around years before Iraq or Afghanistan. Even if we pulled out all our influence in these regions, our support of Israel is enough alone to harbor hatred and attacks for us.

Of course, if we just minded our own goddamn business in the first place, then nobody would ever have had any motive to bomb us.

Does anybody else see this election heading through this process:

Somewhat close election
Obama Wins
McCain raises ACORN grievances
ACORN investigation
Obama concedes out of modesty mid-investigation
4 more years of garbage

...no.

 

[BrokenFiction]

Now with more unified y axis!

Who voted that was over 100 years old? I want to shake their hand.

 

[thekad]

WTF at McCain this morning:

McCain: "I'm not gonna let them test me, I'm gonna test them."

Why, yes, in this day and age, the smartest thing for us to do is to actually keep hitting the bee's nest.

They're making this way too easy. I can already see this quote feeding into the "erratic" meme in some ad.

 

[AndyIsTheMoran]

What does 'testing' them mean? What type of policy results from an attempt to 'test' a state or NSA?

It's mindless xenophobic pandering that provides nothing constructive, like countless other McCain gabs. As to Obama's policy, while I'm not completely supportive of it, there is something to be said of attacking known locations where NSAs are and where the local government is either unable or unwilling to attack.

Obama's policy is applicable to McCain also. Obama just has to be more vocal about it because hes perceived weaker on national security. How is it xenophobic to say we will test enemies or countries who outright support and aid them?

 

[The Librarian]

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Has Obama down by TWO PERCENT in GEORGIA

 

[reilo]

There never needs to be hostility? i hope you don't believe that. World trade center bombings, embassy bombings, military base bombings all were around years before Iraq or Afghanistan. Even if we pulled out all our influence in these regions, our support of Israel is enough alone to harbor hatred and attacks for us.

Those were all in response to actual attacks on this nation. The Iraq war, and what John McCain is proposing, is preemptive attacks on nations that we deem "hostile."

Fuck that policy. Fuck it in its stupid ass. This country did the same shit in Vietnam and now in Iraq. Nothing ever good comes from it.

 

[scorcho]

John Kerry or Bill Richardson as the Secretary of State?

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/10/obamas_cabinet/

The rumor is that McClatchy News is trying to report a story that should Barack Obama win the election, most of the key members of his Cabinet will be announced on Friday, November 7th.

And the two most likely candidates for the job of Secretary of State, according to the rumblings are. . . . .Senator John Kerry and New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson.

I'm not sure where this leaves Richard Holbrooke, Senator Chuck Hagel, Senator Richard Lugar, former Senator Sam Nunn and others with sights on that job. I like Senator Kerry and think he brings some real strengths -- but Hagel would bring nuance, no "false choices", energy and some legs on the political right. Richard Holbrooke would also be someone of progressive, cut-throat skill in the job -- and would be someone I'd want around twisting arms and delivering results. Richard Lugar is the hard core favorite of a lot of foreign policy veterans.

If it really is John Kerry or Bill Richardson and not a head fake -- Obama has to choose Kerry.

Seriously, RICHARDSON?!

Hagel would be a very, very interesting choice, and would cement Obama's pragmatics. It's also highly unlikely.

 

[hokahey]

Does anybody else see this election heading through this process:

Somewhat close election
Obama Wins
McCain raises ACORN grievances
ACORN investigation
Obama concedes out of modesty mid-investigation
4 more years of garbage

Not a fucking chance in hell.

This ACORN thing will simply be red meat for the right wing to gnash on when they lose.

Unless millions of Mickey Mouses vote for Obama, no one's going to freak out about it except the extreme right.

 

[Saint Gregory]

Nope. Disagree. Not likely. Not at all.

Did you see his tag though? The man (or woman) is Nostradamus. I'm scared now

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Has Obama down by TWO PERCENT in GEORGIA

Ha, Nevermind :lol

 

[AndyIsTheMoran]

Of course, if we just minded our own goddamn business in the first place, then nobody would ever have had any motive to bomb us.

minding your own business doesn't always mean you are left alone, in fact it usually weakens you in the long run by allowing the problem to strengthen, if there is a genuine problem in the first place. Which i cant see how anyone could disagree with.

 

[JzeroT1437]

There never needs to be hostility? i hope you don't believe that. World trade center bombings, embassy bombings, military base bombings all were around years before Iraq or Afghanistan. Even if we pulled out all our influence in these regions, our support of Israel is enough alone to harbor hatred and attacks for us.

Yes, but there's a difference between statehoods and militia groups, a difference which conservatives tend to forget about. You can't exterminate terrorist groups by razing various countries in a certain geographic location. This simply makes you look like an uninformed bully, especially to those whom have been fending off the very things you seek to eradicate much longer than yourself. You can't win a war on an idea--that's the beauty of ideas, and also why the war on drugs failed and the war on terror is failing. Violence cannot quell violence. The first step towards solving the problem would be diplomatic treatment of countries in the middle east to gain their help in solving this problem; not throwing our weight around militarily.

People who are not good with words rarely see the value of words, I suppose.

:lol :lol Yes, that's exactly what will happen!

I dunno...after Gore attempted a recount and the Supreme Court shut him down, Kerry conceded extremely early in the 04 election. And as we know, Gore technically won his. Just going off precedent.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Does anybody else see this election heading through this process:

Somewhat close election
Obama Wins
McCain raises ACORN grievances
ACORN investigation
Obama concedes out of modesty mid-investigation
4 more years of garbage

ACORN?

Seriously?!?!

You do know that there is a HUGE difference between Voter Registration fraud and Voter fraud, right?

Mickey Mouse may be REGISTERED but he sure as hell isn't showing up to vote on Nov.
4th.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Does anybody else see this election heading through this process:

Somewhat close election
Obama Wins
McCain raises ACORN grievances
ACORN investigation
Obama concedes out of modesty mid-investigation
4 more years of garbage

Uh no. Obama is modest, but no one is modest enough to concede the US presidency just to make losers feel better.

If he wins, he wins. I don't think McCain will challenge anything, despite his campaign's suggestions. Palin might though...

 

[Tamanon]

John Kerry or Bill Richardson as the Secretary of State?

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/10/obamas_cabinet/

Seriously, RICHARDSON?!

Hagel would be a very, very interesting choice, and would cement Obama's pragmatics. It's also highly unlikely.

I don't buy that article at all. It just seems to be throwing around people that support Obama. Plus no mention of my girl Susan Rice! Although there's some talk she might be considered for National Security Advisor instead.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Obama begins his closing ads. Two minute closer:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Obama_Defining_Moment.html?showall

Hits nearly every part of his platform, and ties them all together. What to do, how to pay for it, how to go about it.

We heard he was buying lots of two-minute ad blocks a couple weeks ago, looks like this is part of why.

 

[agrajag]

Does anybody else see this election heading through this process:

Somewhat close election
Obama Wins
McCain raises ACORN grievances
ACORN investigation
Obama concedes out of modesty mid-investigation
4 more years of garbage

Unless these nonexistent registered people show up to vote on November 4th, I don't see how this voter fraud hurt anyone but ACORN. Hopefully most sane people realize that ACORN is the victim in this situation.

 

[The Blue Jihad]

There never needs to be hostility? i hope you don't believe that. World trade center bombings, embassy bombings, military base bombings all were around years before Iraq or Afghanistan. Even if we pulled out all our influence in these regions, our support of Israel is enough alone to harbor hatred and attacks for us.

Killing your opponent is not testing your opponent.

 

[scorcho]

Yes, but there's a difference between statehoods and militia groups, a difference which conservatives tend to forget about. You can't exterminate terrorist groups by razing various countries in a certain geographic location. This simply makes you look like an uninformed bully, especially to those whom have been fending off the very things you seek to eradicate much longer than yourself. You can't win a war on an idea--that's the beauty of ideas, and also why the war on drugs failed and the war on terror is failing. Violence cannot quell violence. The first step towards solving the problem would be diplomatic treatment of countries in the middle east to gain their help in solving this problem; not throwing our weight around militarily.

People who are not good with words rarely see the value of words, I suppose.

Yep, I wonder how McCain, who confuses between Sunnis and Shias, would define the term 'them'.