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[chrominance]

Hit next tweet literally says that is not the reason they don't cover it.

From a journalistic standpoint it is just incredibly difficult to cover a subject which does not know what it is about itself. So you will end up with a dozen or so disjointed articles about everything which add nothing of value to the discussion and are not informative to your readers.

Clearly he thinks it's part of Gamespot's thought process on the issue, else why bring it up?

And like I said, I don't understand what would be so incredibly difficult about writing an editorial about Gamergate when many outlets, both in the gaming industry and elsewhere, have written comprehensive articles about same. Gawker. The New York Times. The Verge. Is there some writer kryptonite that specifically afflicts the gaming press when it comes to Gamergate? Do you feel the above articles are too vague, jumbled or disjointed to paint a reasonable picture of what Gamergate is about?

I'm trying not to be someone who demands gaming websites print articles sufficiently damning of things I don't like, because that's essentially Gamergate's response to feminism. But it's hard to look at, say, Giant Bomb, and realize that outside of some videos with Patrick and Alex that were premium-only when aired live, there's basically been no comment about anything to do with Gamergate. Jeff wrote a letter from the editor after some people criticized Giant Bomb's most recent hires for being white men, and then those people got attacked in turn by people calling themselves Giant Bomb fans.

Gamergate has, thankfully, not intruded so obviously onto Giant Bomb's turf, but it also means it's easier for them to pretend it doesn't exist. As someone who sees this bullshit dragging down a hobby I enjoy, something that forces perfectly good people to leave the industry or seek protection from the police, it's hard to feel like no one else really gives a shit to the point where it's not even worth commenting on.

 

[ClosingADoor]

I'm loathe to speculate here (because outrageous conspiracy speculation is what the GamerGate trolls excel at) but is it possible that a lot of these sites are gun-shy after the appearance that they had all worked together to support Zoe Quinn after that vile blog post and subsequent doxxing and harassment?

It might be true that some websites don't want to be seen 'taking sides' since no matter what you do, you'll end up pissing of a large group of people.

Other then that, it is weekend, so there is less news going online anyway. Maybe on monday more will cover it.

Clearly he thinks it's part of Gamespot's thought process on the issue, else why bring it up?

And like I said, I don't understand what would be so incredibly difficult about writing an editorial about Gamergate when many outlets, both in the gaming industry and elsewhere, have written comprehensive articles about same. Gawker. The New York Times. The Verge. Is there some writer kryptonite that specifically afflicts the gaming press when it comes to Gamergate? Do you feel the above articles are too vague, jumbled or disjointed to paint a reasonable picture of what Gamergate is about?

I'm trying not to be someone who demands gaming websites print articles sufficiently damning of things I don't like, because that's essentially Gamergate's response to feminism. But it's hard to look at, say, Giant Bomb, and realize that outside of some videos with Patrick and Alex that were premium-only when aired live, there's basically been no comment about anything to do with Gamergate. Jeff wrote a letter from the editor after some people criticized Giant Bomb's most recent hires for being white men, and then those people got attacked in turn by people calling themselves Giant Bomb fans.

Gamergate has, thankfully, not intruded so obviously onto Giant Bomb's turf, so it's easier for them to pretend it doesn't exist. But as someone who sees this bullshit dragging down a hobby I enjoy, something that forces perfectly good people to leave the industry or seek protection from the police, it's hard to feel like no one else really gives a shit to the point where it's not even worth commenting on.

I understand that gaming media can cover it, but it is a difficult subject since you can't so much cover Gamersgate as a whole. GameSpot has covered the Intel incident: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/intel-pulls-ads-under-pressure-from-gamergate-but-/1100-6422743/

I don't think they are opposed to posting these kind of incidents about gamergate. But I can see why they don't do an article that composes all of it, since there is not a single gamergate issue, so you don't have a good subject to write about. And writing about it will come of as passing judgement, and I think a side like GameSpot is a bit different in dealing with opinions then Kotaku or The Verge in that way. But I might be wrong, since I'm not a daily visitor there.

I must say I don't visit Giant Bomb, so I am not familiar with their type of content that much these days and if serious discussion about a subject as gamergate will fit in that.

 

[tchocky]

But you can't change a community when you're shaming it from the outside. I don't support Gamergate at all. But neither do I support that article she wrote.

Leigh is not trying to change the community she is trying to move beyond it. It is similar to hair metal and alternative music in the early 90s. Bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam didn't try to appeal to Motley Crue fans they made music for people who were not served by hair metal and by doing this helped to kill off hair metal. Leigh is attempting to do the same in her article telling game developers to ignore the traditional "gamer" and appeal to a new audience who are out there but are not served by the current triple A games.and want something different.

 

[Mman235]

I know he was talking about Twitter's abysmal anti-harassment policies last night.

I might be mistaken here, but this seems like he's unhappy with what people (anti-GamerGater people) have been tweeting at Owen Good (who I assume is the person he cares about)

Oh I misread it a little and interpreted it as something about why he's not writing about GG for Polygon, but what you've posted makes a lot more sense.

 

[Kris Pistofferson]

From a journalistic standpoint it is just incredibly difficult to cover a subject which does not know what it is about itself. So you will end up with a dozen or so disjointed articles about everything which add nothing of value to the discussion and are not informative to your readers.

I find it hard to even consider it a subject with a political point. The only actual topic I've seen in the whole thing is the Sarkeesian videos demonstrating how often women are misrepresented in games. The rest is just a mishmash of both direct antisocial abuse and covert emotional manipulation.

I've recently been reading books on psychopathy and manipulative personalities and I think they describe the current climate far better than any misapplied labels. People often think these personalities are one-in-a -million when the rarest of them (full-blown clinical psychopaths) are 1% of the population. Just this one thread has a thousand posters so far.

 

[captainnapalm]

No, what Ms Alexander did is culture-shame most of our community with statements like:





She mistakingly (or intentionally) conflated the appearance, culture, and habits of gaming enthusiasts with a subset of people (many of which are probably not even very active in the gaming community, just serial misogynists and bigots who latched onto Gamergate) who are engaging in abusive behavior. You can feel the disdain in her words. She would make a great character in an 80s movie, rolling her eyes at the nerd outcasts in the school. She certainly isn't advocating, as you say, that games are for everyone. They should just be for well-dressed, hip, social-conformist people like her.

I get it. She wants to go upmarket. It's the same as the people working at AAA studios who clamor for more 'immersive' and 'cinematic' experiences because they really wanted to be a film director. She certainly has the right to say what she wants to say, and Gamasutra has given her a platform on which to do so. But you can't change a community when you're shaming it from the outside. I don't support Gamergate at all. But neither do I support that article she wrote..

And then you look into her history and you realise she's been a pretty awful character for a long time. Some of her tweets are just absolute gold, because you cannot believe someone can be such a colossal asshole.

She talks about how it's funny that she can kill people's dreams if they send her stuff to look at, she warns people to be careful of what they say or she will ruin them, she tells one female journalist that she's sorry, but she's going have to end her career.

I mean just this power tripped douchebaggery of the worst kind. Yet we're supposed to see her as a victim.

And you realise within their own little cliques these people never seem to look at themselves critically, only others, constantly, while preaching to them. They just slap each other on the back over everything. It's the kind of hypocrisy I just can't stand.

 

[More_Badass]

And then you look into her history and you realise she's been a pretty awful character for a long time. Some of her tweets are just absolute gold, because you cannot believe someone can be such a colossal asshole.

She talks about how it's funny that she can kill people's dreams if they send her stuff to look at, she warns people to be careful of what they say or she will ruin them, she tells one female journalist that she's sorry, but she's going have to end her career.

I mean just this power tripped douchebaggery of the worst kind. Yet we're supposed to see her as a victim.

And you realise within their own little cliques these people never seem to look at themselves critically, only others, constantly, while preaching to them. They just slap each other on the back over everything. It's the kind of hypocrisy I just can't stand.

That doesn't condone the harassment and attacks that invade someone's personal life. She's still a victim of that behavior

Just because I think those tweets of her's are disturbing and wrong, doesn't mean that I also think she should be harassed in such a way, have her personal life infiltrated by those hurtful actions.

 

[outunderthestars]

I know he was talking about Twitter's abysmal anti-harassment policies last night.

I might be mistaken here, but this seems like he's unhappy with what people (anti-GamerGater people) have been tweeting at Owen Good (who I assume is the person he cares about):

Twitter is a terrible social network. I really don't see why people use it.

 

[More_Badass]

Twitter is a terrible social network. I really don't see why people use it.

I guess it depends who you follow, how you use it. Personally joining Twitter was a great decision, allowed me to chat directly with devs, follow game progress, connect with friends, build exposure for my blog.

 

[LiegeWaffle]

What does that shirt mean? I genuinely don't get it. I've been following this issue for the most part, but I missed the significance of '#BASED'...

It's not the "#BASED", it's what is under that label.

 

[EviLore]

Aww, Adam Baldwin deleted the tweets from the flamewar he had with me. :| What a lame-o. Did anyone happen to screengrab them?

 

[L Thammy]

Just from reading this thread, I've noticed several recurring Gamergate arguments that tend to come up. I think it would be neat if a journo wrote an article discussing and debating these.

- “Not all Gamergate is bad! Gamergate is about ethics!”

- “The other side is just as bad!”

- “Playing video games doesn’t make me a bad person!”

- “We’re not arguing against what these people are saying, we just want them to say it in a nicer way!”

- “These women did these bad things! Do the research!”

- “We need to find a middle ground!”

- “We just need to stop talking about this!”​

 

[eyeball_kid]

Leigh is not trying to change the community she is trying to move beyond it. It is similar to hair metal and alternative music in the early 90s. Bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam didn't try to appeal to Motley Crue fans they made music for people who were not served by hair metal and by doing this helped to kill off hair metal. Leigh is attempting to do the same in her article telling game developers to ignore the traditional "gamer" and appeal to a new audience who are out there but are not served by the current triple A games.and want something different.

It's one thing to advocate for more diversity in games. But many of the people she tries to shame in her article are the same ones funding indie games which provide the genre and thematic diversity she is asking for. And that's the problem; she's addressing "gamers" as if the gaming community is a monoculture. Traditional gamer? I don't even know what that is. Many of us like all kinds of things, some of us like a narrow selection of things, and most of the people buying the AAA macho-sexist-violence games she rails against would not be classified as the 'gamer' archetype she is trying to shame, but people who play games casually. Many are teenage boys, yes. But that is also the target audience of most summer blockbusters. If those kinds of things bring in massive revenue, corporations will continue to fund and produce them.

But honestly, the panoply of games available has never been more diverse than it is now. But just like the movies, many of these games will never be more than indie arthouse titles. And that's okay.

 

[Curufinwe]

This is super depressing to see, coming from a Polygon senior reporter (basically false equivalence):

Also, Erik Kain is apparently being lectured by that Milo transphobe on journalism ethics while having discussions with the Internet Aristocrat. Just so you know what to expect from him in the future.

So yeah, it doesn't look like some of the mainstream outlets and some parts of the gaming journalism segment are moving in the proper direction in terms of fighting this hate campaign. I still don't know why GiantBomb and others aren't taking a stand, especially after Brianna Wu's horrific experience yesterday.

What action would you like GB to take, exactly?

And how do you think GB taking this action will affect the hate campaign?

 

[partyphone]

What action would you like GB to take, exactly?

And how do you think GB taking this action will affect the hate campaign?

just writing something about it would be good. it is news, afterall.

like this: http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/11/...eveloper-driven-from-home-after-death-threats

and it would be good to take a strong stance against gamergate.

 

[Curufinwe]

I think it would be worthwhile and news worthy, but I'm sure it would not do anything to slow down the harassment.

 

[partyphone]

I think it would be worthwhile and news worthy, but I'm sure it would not do anything to slow down the harassment.

not with this attitude, it won't! and I don't think anyone is suggesting giantbomb is a panacea for this thing. they're just one of many sites that should be speaking out about this. you don't change the status quo by staying quiet. and that's what this is largely about.

 

[axisofweevils]

Good stuff from Kotaku.

To those reading this who feel that coverage of harassment and threats is a dismissal of concerns about how the games media or gaming industry works, know that it's not. We've addressed and investigated such topics before and will do so again. But Friday's incident brings a different aspect of the Gamergate controversy to the fore: the targeting of women, the sense that discussion about gaming, games media ethics, and gamers will forever contaminated by an ugliness disproportionate to the issues at hand. This is a potential new status quo that we at Kotaku reject. The kind of harassment that sends anyone in the gaming scene fleeing from their homes is detestable and should be condemned no matter where one stands on anything else.

http://kotaku.com/another-woman-in-gaming-flees-home-following-death-thre-1645280338

 

[Lime]

Since Gamergate is linked to the harassment of women, I might as well post this here, besides the bump in that other thread:

 

[chrominance]

Just came to post that Kotaku article. That, I think, is a good example of what other gaming media outlets can do if they wish to speak out against Gamergate. It's a comprehensive article, makes an attempt to differentiate between legitimate issues and harassment, and talks about the many twists of the Gamergate movement and why it has the reputation it has today.

 

[Curufinwe]

The Kotaku article is great.

If the person who made those threats to Wu is actually found, arerested, and sent to prison, then maybe that will be enough to stop others from doing the same thing.

 

[Lime]

What action would you like GB to take, exactly?

And how do you think GB taking this action will affect the hate campaign?

Partyphone already covered why it is important that major sites should address this issue and take a stand against it. To quote the Antichrist of video games:

"When you decline to create or to curate a culture in your spaces, you’re responsible for what spawns in the vacuum."

 

[tchocky]

What I have noticed with today's articles is the only sites I have seen posting articles about last nights harassment are sites already targeted by GamerGate (Polygon, Gamasutra and now Kotaku). It would be nice if the other sites published articles to show the entire games press condemns GG. This would help give more support to the victims and make it harder for GG supporters to concentrate attacks against sites by pressurising advertisers when its a dozen sites instead of 3.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Welp.

I read the Facebook comments to that article.

I don't know why.

I just did.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

Since Gamergate is linked to the harassment of women, I might as well post this here, besides the bump in that other thread:

 

[darkblade77]

I think it's more or less impossible to curate #GamerGate, but hopefully this media attention will help the moderates disassociate from it and form their own movement that they can actually police to some degree.

Then maybe this prevailing sense of outrage can lead to discussions and be quantified, etc.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Someone just posted that GamerGate is in solidarity with Anita.

I really wish people would stop acting like GamerGate is an organization and more-so that they speak for "it".

 

[BlastProcessing]

What action would you like GB to take, exactly?

And how do you think GB taking this action will affect the hate campaign?

An article that contained a comprehensive timeline would be pretty helpful.

It's pretty common to see people get the basic facts of who said what, when wrong. Right now, people who make arguments for Gamersgate get to work in half-truths and innuendo. Would be nice to see strong reporting counter that a bit.

 

[JackDT]

I feel like this tweet sums up everything:

All great corruption investigations have ALWAYS ignored the money and power, and focused on women. And indie games. That didn't get reviewed.

https://twitter.com/EdStern/status/521046546079809536

 

[Xanezz]

I think it's more or less impossible to curate #GamerGate, but hopefully this media attention will help the moderates disassociate from it and form their own movement that they can actually police to some degree.

Then maybe this prevailing sense of outrage can lead to discussions and be quantified, etc.

Better term would be moderate.
And hopefully a potential splinter group disassociating and making their own movement that will actually adress the things GG now claims to be adressing won't do so on fucking twitter, lest the trolls/psycopaths doxxing in GG's name will swim over to the next feast of "lulz". This kind of discussion needs certain degrees of moderartion.

Twitter really needs better mechanics to avoid this behaviour. Something. Anything.

 

[Riposte]

it was written a year ago when things were more lax here.

From what I can recall, GAF wasn't some sort of mad house a year ago. Maybe five plus years ago, long before I was around and words like "tranny" were more accepted.

I should credit Samantha Allen in that article for not connecting harassment or exclusive language with specific types of games or even life styles, only criticizing the attitudes that are objectionable in the first place. This is unlike more than half the articles I read about attacking the "status quo" (which can include as much of the present as you'd like), which often veer off into all sorts of other objectives and even lose the plot in doing so.

Twitter is a terrible social network. I really don't see why people use it.

It seems useful enough as a medium for people in the industry to interact, but it shouldn't be overlooked to how exposed you are when decide to sit down and read everything that is getting sent at you (sent partially because they believe it will reach you); it's like putting your ear right to the internet and one must wonder how necessary that really is to conduct business (for that matter how necessary it is to make twitter a two-way straight, when discussion is, well, twitter discussion, a 140-character medium prone to hyperbole, hyperbole, and rudeness). If nothing else, some third party apps seem useful.

 

[Orayn]

Anita's tweets have inspired some... Responses.

Might actually be worth reporting this account for spam, honestly.

 

[GoodCoffeeJoey]

Since Gamergate is linked to the harassment of women, I might as well post this here, besides the bump in that other thread:

This is terrorism. I wonder what happens to GamerGate when a bunch of it's members end up in federal court?

 

[Curufinwe]

Partyphone already covered why it is important that major sites should address this issue and take a stand against it. To quote the Antichrist of video games:

Giant Bomb's editor already wrote a letter this year decrying abuse and harassment.

Weirdly enough it had no effect on the people using 4chan, 8chan, twitter and IRC to be vile and act in disgusting ways.

 

[Riposte]

Giant Bomb's editor already wrote a letter this year decrying abuse and harassment.

Their forums are fairly moderated as well. It's not like their site is a haven for harassment campaigns.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

This is terrorism. I wonder what happens to GamerGate when a bunch of it's members end up in federal court?

 

[Xscapist]

An article that contained a comprehensive timeline would be pretty helpful.

There's a comprehensive timeline here that has some interesting details (such as comparing how many tweets #gamergate got each day during its first week). Unfortunately, it's also heavily biased, casting some of the timeline details in doubt.

 

[Sou Da]

Someone just posted that GamerGate is in solidarity with Anita.

I really wish people would stop acting like GamerGate is an organization and more-so that they speak for "it".

Wish people actually took that dev's advice in which he said that a refusal to become organized will always hurt gamergate.

 

[VibratingDonkey]

Jaffe bowed out btw. As far as I'm concerned he never really bowed in to begin with, was always on his own side. Still, he's actively distancing himself now.

Better term would be moderate.
And hopefully a potential splinter group disassociating and making their own movement that will actually adress the things GG now claims to be adressing won't do so on fucking twitter, lest the trolls/psycopaths doxxing in GG's name will swim over to the next feast of "lulz". This kind of discussion needs certain degrees of moderartion.

Twitter really needs better mechanics to avoid this behaviour. Something. Anything.

There was that blog thingie about suggested improvements for anti-harassment features on Twitter that I've almost completely forgotten about. Hopefully someone else will remember what the hell I'm talking about.
I remember the suggestions seeming reasonable and feel it should be hammered at Twitter until they actually do something.

Found it through a Ben Kuchera article. See, he's not all bad.

 

[Riposte]

Jaffe bowed out btw. As far as I'm concerned he never really bowed in to begin with, was always on his own side. Still, he's actively distancing himself now.

I'm thinking his side is/was anti-Alexander, anti-harassment. Quite appealing, really.

 

[Lime]

Giant Spacekat is her own gamecompany

"It's about ethics! "

 

[Morrigan Stark]

Jaffe bowed out btw. As far as I'm concerned he never really bowed in to begin with, was always on his own side. Still, he's actively distancing himself now.

Wow, when even David "mixed signals!" Jaffe thinks you're disgusting, you might want to rethink your priorities... xD

 

[BlastProcessing]

There's a comprehensive timeline here that has some interesting details (such as comparing how many tweets #gamergate got each day during its first week). Unfortunately, it's also heavily biased, casting some of the timeline details in doubt.

Yeah, I think I would like an article that isn't so full of "us" and "we".

Stuff like this:

Simply put, there is this idea that 4chan forced us to speak up. They did not. We chose to speak up first by disclosing our minority status and then by adopting #notyourshield possibly at the suggestion and encouragement of 4chan users. Some of us are 4chan users. Some of us are not. Many of us value our privacy, but we have given it up to better gaming.

Doesn't sit well with me. The whole thing reads less like a comprehensive timeline and more like a defense/alibi.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Anita's tweets have inspired some... Responses.

http://puu.sh/c8FK3/301aa2dd5d.png[mg]

Might actually be worth reporting this account for spam, honestly.[/QUOTE]

I think this might be the same guy I saw the other day. A webcomic artist made fun of people searching "Sarkeesian" on Twitter just to argue with them, and like a week and a half later or so tweeted that a spambot had just replied to that tweet with that kind of format. I looked and the account was like 2% futbol talk, 98% mass spamming of replies to people mentioning Anita.

 

[Lime]

"If women complains so much about video games, why don't they just make them themselves?"

*woman starts her own game company*

*doxes, threatens her with rape and death, and subsequently hacks her game company*

Giant Bomb's editor already wrote a letter this year decrying abuse and harassment.

Weirdly enough it had no effect on the people using 4chan, 8chan, twitter and IRC to be vile and act in disgusting ways.

Just because you did it once doesn't mean that one should stop calling out harassment. When Samantha Allen was harassed out of video games by the Giantbomb community or outsiders who had a problem with her criticizing the hiring as a symptom of the structural problem we have in video games, finally saying something speaks volumes to the community surrounding Giantbomb. When a similar scenario happens once more, why can't Giantbomb speak out and reinforce the message that harassment and misogyny are simply unacceptable on all fronts? Why not even cover it?

Journalism is about delivering the truth and the facts around within a certain topic. It can be a profession that not only enlightens its readers and consumers, but it can also speak up for the oppressed. It is someone who journals stories and publishes the truth in the service of an audience. Why aren't these game journalist sites delivering the facts to their readership so they themselves can make an informed decision on whether Gamergate is acceptable or not.

And know that I'm not singling out Giantbomb only. Other venues should do it as well. But obviously not as terrible as that piece of shit Escapist article that was published with "game developers" sourced from 8chan.

To reiterate, Alexander made the point already, but some were too busy feeling their ego being criticized to understand the important argument:

 

[Vanillalite]

Book'em Dano

If people are gonna make death threats or bomb threats or whatever they should be found and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

This type of thing is serious, and none of it should be taken lightly. Give these people full on jail time.

 

[Juice]

I interact with Brianna a lot on Twitter and I am super duper pissed off that she was doxxed and had to leave home. I'm only surprised it took this long.

At this point I have no idea what could fix the short term problem of trolls focusing harassment on a few people. The long term fix is all of us calling out bullshit when we see it and trying to embrace people from outside our groups and comfort zones.

Frown

 

[TheBryanJZX90]

I interact with Brianna a lot on Twitter and I am super duper pissed off that she was doxxed and had to leave home. I'm only surprised it took this long.

At this point I have no idea what could fix the short term problem of trolls focusing harassment on a few people. The long term fix is all of us calling out bullshit when we see it and trying to embrace people from outside our groups and comfort zones.

Frown

I think the short term fix is people that identify with gamer gate do more than just cover their own ass by saying "well I personally have never participated in any harassment" and actually take action against the worst elements of their group. Seek out the places where the people planning these attacks gather. Tell them that they are fucking assholes and that any complaints they share about ethics in journalism or negative generalizations about gamers in no way justify threatening someone with death. If you want to use this hashtag then fucking take it back from those who use it to do such awful things. Because if you continue to support gamer gate despite knowing such things are going on, you deserve to be lumped in with those doing the harassing, because you are responsible for encouraging it.

 

[Juice]

I think the short term fix is people that identify with gamer gate do more than just cover their own ass by saying "well I personally have never participated in any harassment" and actually take action against the worst elements of their group. Seek out the places where the people planning these attacks gather. Tell them that they are fucking assholes and that any complaints they share about ethics in journalism or negative generalizations about gamers in no way justify threatening someone with death. If you want to use this hashtag then fucking take it back from those who use it to do such awful things. Because if you continue to support gamer gate despite knowing such things are going on, you deserve to be lumped in with those doing the harassing, because you are responsible for encouraging it.

Oh I didn't think anyone was associated with gamergate thinking it was about ANYTHING Other than attacking women and feminists and protecting adolescent man gamer culture.

 

[SmZA]

A few people have been asking what can be done in response to this stuff. I have instituted a personal policy not to associate in any way with people supporting #GG or expressing similar views. They could be in my circle of friends or people I meet at geeky events, but whoever they are I would rather have no game than game with them. I have firmly stated this within my immediate contacts and suggested others do the same, bearing in mind the risk to personal safety if making public statements online. Your own approach might not be as hard-line as mine but my view is that serious discussion of 'ethics' in journalism can be done using a different hashtag. Just as it was before the far-right fuckwit actor coined #GG, and as it will be after he and the guy from fucking Breitbart have moved onto the next Culture War battlefield. #thisisnogame