Pachter Predicts: Xbox One outsold PS4 in September (dance, you puppets)
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I thought you didnt save on the bundles in the usa its one of the reasons he says xbox outsold the ps4 last month because the cheaper packed in games.
sobaka770
Banned
Can we stop listening to this bloke if Sony wins in September? For an industry insider, he's very mediocre...
Just off the top of my head (very approximately), with Destiny mega-launch, no apparent advantage of Forza sales over Driveclub (European benchmarks here) and FIFA outpacing on PS4, I'm confident that Sony has September well into their pocket. I also think that the margin will be quite significant.
A glove in your face, Pachter.
Just off the top of my head (very approximately), with Destiny mega-launch, no apparent advantage of Forza sales over Driveclub (European benchmarks here) and FIFA outpacing on PS4, I'm confident that Sony has September well into their pocket. I also think that the margin will be quite significant.
A glove in your face, Pachter.
I think people will be looking at upcoming titles though. A white Destiny bundle is nice for PS4, but when they can get Destiny on XONE and they see MCC collection, Sunset Overdrive, Titanfall, Forza5, FH2 etc all in 2014 or available now, and the console is the same price... it would make sense that people could be swayed to MS console.
GoldenCrow
Member
If I'm not mistaken Microsoft has always ran offers that include games with their consoles. So has every console company from what I can remember. If it isn't the companies themselves then the retailers do.
From what I understand, pretty well.
What he is paid for? He tries to understand the strategy, management, value proposition and details of how the companies he analyzes work. Then he makes some educated guesses on how they are going to succeed in the broader business landscape and writes reports on what he expects to happen to the share price of those companies in the future. Institutional investors use this insight to make decisions on where to keep their billions of dollars. And considering that he has managed to keep his job, he is apparently pretty good at it.
What does his job have to do with predictions of how Xbox One sells in relation to PS4 in the US in September? Very little. Quite honestly, his clients don't care at all. He's doing this just for shits and giggles.
travisbickle
Member
I think you missed a couple of games there.
scoobs
Member
I don't know... I see him on cnbc in the morning being interviewed about these tech companies all the time. I think people actually believe he is a reliable source on these things, even though he is rarely right
Duxxy3
Member
I remember during the free deal week they had madden bundles, alongside the free game, and any other deals as well. By midweek it was very hard, to impossible, to find those madden bundles anymore.
Did we all grossly underestimate the number of those bundles?
I know that PS4 has exclusives out, but SONY are pushing Destiny as their main game with nothing of note really dropping until 2015. It just seems like the MS exclusive software offering is far more appealing to people who are looking to pick up a console for the holidays, and their marketing is much more prominent... at least it is here in the UK.
MS exclusives more appealing? I disagree, I don't think either consoles' exclusives are appealing right now.
Less than that.
Logic tells us PS4 won the month and no way it only sold 250K.
All these post will wash away like tears in the rain come Thursday. lol.
Too soon.
alexandros
Banned
The prediction seems far-fetched but it would be an interesting turn of events if true. It would certainly cement my belief that most people mainly care about price, not specs.
SwiftDeath
Member
As far as I could tell, the Madden bundle was available for like two weeks at most, one week in August, one week in September with maybe a couple stores that retained stock after that. I don't think one week [the 2nd week] of bundle sales is going to have a large impact on a 5 week month when it was clearly a very limited promotion. There are of course other reasons at play but the Madden bundle somehow being the thing that pushed XB1 over PS4 for any length of time seems unlikely to me
Moving4Motion
Banned
I wouldn't be surprised. MS has been killing it with updates over the year, owning an X1 is now an absolute pleasure in my opinion.
Ashad Mamood
Banned
What Meltdowns?
A system that has been well discounted and with free game or games manages to outsell the competition for one month in one region by a small margin?
Amazing meltdown if true!
Anything is possible!
'If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything' - George McFly
RedAssedApe
Banned
watch out for the next bonus round where he shouts out to gaf again...dude is the ultimate troll
It could be part of their marketing budget, an investment, they could have cut a deal with the publishers we dont know, but I don't see this impacting the company that already has deep pockets and if the result is what Patcher estimates, they get their consoles into homes and build base to generate money from
RyanPierre
Member
I do wonder what is newsworthy about his NPD predictions, or perhaps phrased more accurately: his NPD stabs in the dark.
But for the sake of argument, let's say this guy's opinion is important. That is, his predictions are so vital that they require two separate articles:
http://venturebeat.com/2014/10/13/d...predicts-big-dip-in-september-software-sales/
http://venturebeat.com/2014/10/13/xbox-one-outsold-ps4/
...then at least put in enough effort to spell his name right:
But for the sake of argument, let's say this guy's opinion is important. That is, his predictions are so vital that they require two separate articles:
http://venturebeat.com/2014/10/13/d...predicts-big-dip-in-september-software-sales/
http://venturebeat.com/2014/10/13/xbox-one-outsold-ps4/
...then at least put in enough effort to spell his name right:
Yup, Xbone beating PS4 3 months after its price cut certainly proves that belief.
Pathfinder
Member
It would be the end of the world for some people, yes.
Ashad Mamood
Banned
What is Pachter's actual job? Market analyst?
Who the hell employs this moron?
Has he actually ever been right?
Who the hell employs this moron?
Has he actually ever been right?
I'll save that quote for Thursday.
John Bender
Banned
Pachter's "prediction" is so absolutely LOL worthy.... it isn't even funny anymore.
The Xbone numbers won't even be near the PS4 sales.
So it's actually unbelievable that even here, in this thread, we can see posts like:
Big LOL!
Seriously
The Xbone numbers won't even be near the PS4 sales.
So it's actually unbelievable that even here, in this thread, we can see posts like:
Big LOL!
Seriously
Pathfinder
Member
You should probably know who he is, and what he's done, before you start blindly insulting him.
GlamFM
Banned
Your response gives a good first impression of what could be.
Ashad Mamood
Banned
I've heard his name mentioned and that the opposite usually happens to what he states!
Don't understand who'd be stupid enough to employ him?
Yosp: damn Pachter was right... Ok, release the firmware
Pathfinder
Member
alexandros
Banned
If you read my earlier posts you'll see that I don't think simply matching the PS4's price is enough. I said that the XBox One needs to be at least $50 cheaper since it's weaker specwise and with a free game included it actually is cheaper now. So it will be interesting to see what happens.
Ive seen a lot of people pick up xbones lately but I don't know if its going to beat ps4 simply because of destiny. Those white ps4's were mostly sold out about 3 weeks after launch and I cant imagine sony shipping a miniscule amount of them.
Then again I know 3 people that bought a xbone for destiny so who knows, maybe the game was the jumping in point for halo fans.
quoting for future use.
Then again I know 3 people that bought a xbone for destiny so who knows, maybe the game was the jumping in point for halo fans.
quoting for future use.
When you wrote this, did you for one moment consider taking into account current and upcoming ps4 games?
Nightengale
Member
Just because I act like who I am on GAF doesn't mean I'm not a competent white collar professional deserving of my pay cheque.
Pach is clearly more than competent in many aspects of his career. It's just that he doesn't bring that to his console predictions, for some reason.
competition is king....
all the people hoping for PS4 to wipe the floor with Sony, will in the end regret it, history is littered with evidence of how bad companies can act when they are the dominant force..
One could argue that is already happening depending on how you view things...
Firmware updates?
Features added?
PSN is just well.... a joke and Xmas is looming and will likely get even worse
of course Sony would deny any link to those not being updated because of their dominance...
but that is not the question, the question should always be..
Would the PS4 still be as it is if they were in Microsoft position in terms of sales?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
of course not. Lets conveniently forget PS4 has any exclusives.....its only Destiny from here on out.
Well the fact the WiiU is not doing too well kinda blows your idea out of the water already doesnt it.