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[Crocodile]

So there are people so goddamn mal-adusted that they think the proper response to someone they disagree with is to threaten their life (even if they have no intention of going through with it) and then we have an institution more concerned with "gun rights" than the safety of the speaker, their students, faculty & staff, etc?

This is fucking disgusting!

 

[devilhawk]

The "specificity" being in her role as a feminist activist in video games or anything that specifically differentiates herself from any other feminist. What I meant was fairly obvious, assuming you read the entire post. It is clear that the threat doesn't specifically differentiate why she was chosen other than that she just so happens to be a feminist speaking at a school that this guy was at. Context is hard, I guess.

You can literally plug in any other feminist into the threat.

 

[GorillaJu]

The "specificity" being in her role as a feminist activist in video games or anything that specifically differentiates herself from any other feminist. What I meant was fairly obvious, assuming you read the entire post. It is clear that the threat doesn't specifically differentiate why she was chosen other than that she just so happens to be a feminist speaking at a school that this guy was at. Context is hard, I guess.

You can literally plug in any other feminist into the threat.

I got what you meant and I think others did as well. Keep in mind you're arguing with someone who on the first page interpreted this decision to mean that "stalkers and creeps are LITERALLY allowed to hunt down their victims."

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

lol

talk about context being hard with shaky comment histories

 

[Big-E]

My co worker who knows nothing about gaming just mentioned the threat and gamersgate and asked me about it. The word about this is reaching new people.

 

[Timbuktu]

My co worker who knows nothing about gaming just mentioned the threat and gamersgate and asked me about it. The word about this is reaching new people.

It is front page news on New York Times.

 

[devilhawk]

The person wrote about how Anita wants to "punish men for even fantasizing about being men."

The person is alluding to Anita's criticism of the gaming industry, and how it's long been what is basically male fantasy fuel. The person is angry at Anita specifically, and she only got propelled to major spotlight via GG.

If you could literally plug in any other feminist, why don't more feminist speakers at colleges get this sort of vitriol hate? Do you really, truly believe it's just a coincidence?

She is obviously a more prominent feminist because of the current GG situation. The fantasizing about being men part does allude to video games, true. I think the phrase more points to the writer telling his audience why she is considered a feminist and therefore providing justification for the writer to target her. This is certainly just my interpretation.

It's just the line that talks about how he thinks feminists have ruined his life. The line about how he would be content murdering other feminists that have nothing to do with Sarkeesian. I would be worried about this guy near any feminist and worried about any prominent feminist speaking at the school in the future.

 

[Bollocks]

I mean does anybody genuinely believe that this is a real threat?
It seems more like a prank in line with lulzsec, lizard squad etc.
Just some online guys fucking with her on the internet on the basis of anonymity.
She was also targeted at this years GDC and that turned out to be a false alarm.
She's a well known internet personality that discusses a controversial topic.
It just seems all in line with a prank anon would do.

Not saying that the threats couldn't be real but the pattern explicitly targeting her is telling.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

I mean does anybody genuinely believe that this is a real threat?
It seems more like a prank in line with lulzsec, lizard squad etc.
Just some online guys fucking with her on the internet on the basis of anonymity.
She was also targeted at this years GDC and that turned out to be a false alarm.
She's a well known internet personality that discusses a controversial topic.
It just seems all in line with a prank anon would do.

Not saying that the threats couldn't be real but the pattern explicitly targeting her is telling.

The threat is real once it's made. Acting on it is a different story.

Letting these threats rock doesn't benefit anyone

 

[RubberJohnny]

I mean does anybody genuinely believe that this is a real threat?
It seems more like a prank in line with lulzsec, lizard squad etc.
Just some online guys fucking with her on the internet on the basis of anonymity.
She was also targeted at this years GDC and that turned out to be a false alarm.
She's a well known internet personality that discusses a controversial topic.
It just seems all in line with a prank anon would do.

Not saying that the threats couldn't be real but the pattern explicitly targeting her is telling.

Do you honestly expect anyone to react as if it wasn't? The threats that there was a bomb on Smedleys plane or that Twitch streamers was shooting up a school weren't real but it didn't matter because they achieved exactly what they set out to.

 

[FormallyMegadrive]

That open carry policy sounds nuts, you can't have a public event with no guns allowed?

Fucked up that people are still sending her death threats.

It isn't fucked up that she was getting death threats at all?

 

[kmax]

Even though I don't necessarily agree with the some of the rhetoric that Sarkeesian has displayed, anyone should be able to express themselves without having to fear for their safety. If she's indeed recieved death threats, that's very unfortunate, and I understand why she'd cancel.

I'm no big fan of the gun laws in America, but if the law is to be applied, then the situation is what it is.

 

[Carcetti]

Remember when gamers tried to convince people that their 'murder simulators' are not turning the teens into dangerous lunatics itching to kill people? Yeah, that ship sailed.

 

[neorej]

Remember when gamers tried to convince people that their 'murder simulators' are not turning the teens into dangerous lunatics itching to kill people? Yeah, that ship sailed.

Hold on, I'm coming right back with you after I fully comprehend every level of stupid that is in this single post.

 

[Vagabundo]

Remember when gamers tried to convince people that their 'murder simulators' are not turning the teens into dangerous lunatics itching to kill people? Yeah, that ship sailed.

Really? I think there were women hating pyshos long before video games were around.

Even though I don't necessarily agree with the some of the rhetoric that Sarkeesian has displayed, anyone should be able to express themselves without having to fear for their safety. If she's indeed recieved death threats, that's very unfortunate, and I understand why she'd cancel.

I'm no big fan of the gun laws in America, but if the law is to be applied, then the situation is what it is.

To be honest I don't even know why she is continuing to push this issue. It cannot be worth the aggravation. I'm sure the threats are bullshit, but still you never know when one lunatic could focus their crazy on you.

 

[FreeMufasa]

Remember when gamers tried to convince people that their 'murder simulators' are not turning the teens into dangerous lunatics itching to kill people? Yeah, that ship sailed.

To be fair tho the games of before are really differnt to games now.

 

[J10]

What's funny to me is if she had gone through with the speech and there was a shooting, some people would have eventually blamed her for not taking the threat seriously and putting other people's lives at risk. Yet here we are shrugging this shit off like we're supposed to assume the threat isn't serious since they won.

 

[Kinokou]

I mean does anybody genuinely believe that this is a real threat?
It seems more like a prank in line with lulzsec, lizard squad etc.
Just some online guys fucking with her on the internet on the basis of anonymity.
She was also targeted at this years GDC and that turned out to be a false alarm.
She's a well known internet personality that discusses a controversial topic.
It just seems all in line with a prank anon would do.

Not saying that the threats couldn't be real but the pattern explicitly targeting her is telling.

It doesn't matter if there is a telling pattern here, what matters is that the authorities get the person doing it as making threats is illegal in the first place. And that doesn't just go for this incident, they should get all of the people threating her as long as they are located within their jurisdiction, and if they aren't they should contact the appropriate foreign authorities.

To be honest I don't even know why she is continuing to push this issue. It cannot be worth the aggravation. I'm sure the threats are bullshit, but still you never know when one lunatic could focus their crazy on you.

Do you think the threats would stop? She collected money to make this series and I'm pretty sure the same people sending death threats would take a 180 and call her a "lying, robber bitch, who stole my money!" if she stops making videos.

I think it's about high time to "turn the witch hunt around" and show people that this kind of behavior is unacceptable and will have consequences in real life.

 

[Drencrom]

Wow, this is fucked up on so many levels. USU got some things to explain.

Remember when gamers tried to convince people that their 'murder simulators' are not turning the teens into dangerous lunatics itching to kill people? Yeah, that ship sailed.

Huh? As a poster above me said; people like the one responsible for this threat have been around long before video games. Also, with an attitude like that, why are you on a gaming forum full of 'lunatics' that play these murder simulators?

 

[Woo-Fu]

You receive threats of violence at the event if you speak, and you think it's ok not to take preventative measures?

Open carry is the preventative measure.

 

[GrayOfPigs]

I hate to be the person that says this but where were the news stories and the concern when that MRM conference received a similar threat a few months back?

I'm a feminist by the way. I just don't think we should label a whole group based on one maniac.

 

[UrbanRats]

I admit as a non-US citizen, i probably have a cultural gap as to why i find the idea of both open and concealed carry, to be grotesque, but this whole thing is really scary on multiple levels, regardless of how serious that threat was.

 

[MrBadger]

The previous poster was obviously talking about how none of the threats are specific to Anita's video series and what she does, and seem more like a grudge with feminists in general.

 

[Gattsu25]

The previous poster was obviously talking about how none of the threats are specific to Anita's video series and what she does, and seem more like a grudge with feminists in general.

The 'she wants to stop us from fantasizing about being men' part seems razor focused on her videos, however.

 

[Carcetti]

Huh? As a poster above me said; people like the one responsible for this threat have been around long before video games. Also, with an attitude like that, why are you on a gaming forum full of 'lunatics' that play these murder simulators?

I'm trying to convey the stupid twist that the people against Sarkeesian (who apparently want to protect the reputation of gaming from her slanderous videos) are actually making the mainstream audience see gamers in worse light than before by living up the stupid stereotype of the gamer as the school shooter. I don't actually believe in 'murder simulators' but I didn't figure I'd have to actually spell that out loud...

Jack Thompson must be applauding this turn, wherever he is now.

Hold on, I'm coming right back with you after I fully comprehend every level of stupid that is in this single post.

Yes, can't wait for you to comprehend things. I bolded stuff. Maybe that helps. Unless I missed something and the people who made the threats are not irate gamers and just hate Sarkeesian because of ... reasons?

 

[LiK]

Wow, story made it to NY Times in both print and online.

 

[EdibleKnife]

The previous poster was obviously talking about how none of the threats are specific to Anita's video series and what she does, and seem more like a grudge with feminists in general.

I'm gonna guess that the Center of Women and Gender Studies frequently has feminist guests, yet the threat frequently and pointedly attaches Anita as the motivation for his actions. I don't deny that the person is probably not a big fan of feminists in general, but saying that he'll "write his manifesto in (Anita's) spilled blood" says to me he knows exactly who she is and where she fits in his life.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

Hold on, I'm coming right back with you after I fully comprehend every level of stupid that is in this single post.

That's uncalled for. You misunderstood what he's saying, which is this event is only going to taint the reputation of gamers and give more ammo to those who make an unfair link between video games and school shootings.

 

[Bacon]

Wow, story made it to NY Times in both print and online.

Link?

 

[EdibleKnife]

Link?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/t...omen-video-game-threats-anita-sarkeesian.html

 

[Bacon]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/t...omen-video-game-threats-anita-sarkeesian.html

Cheers!

 

[Slayven]

This is on the news, and will just link Gamersgate to terrorism and school shootings. And then they will be done.

 

[AlimNassor]

It's probably fake, and I hope they find the idiot who made it and toss them book at them. Death threats are not a joking matter. The sad thing is i know people who believe they got full evidence this is a false flag from Anita.

 

[Unbounded]

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I mean, for what it's worth you could replace Sarkeesian's name with the name of pretty much any other woman and it'd still work for the most part.

 

[Sapphire Dreams]

Guys please excuse me ignorance but why do you think #gmaergate is bad ?

 

[WARP10CK]

Whats crazy about this is that the state of Utah still would allow people with concealed guns at the venue despite the threat because its the law apparently.

And the person who wrote this threat seems to have a huge problem with feminists in general.

 

[EdibleKnife]

I mean, for what it's worth you could replace Sarkeesian's name with the name of pretty much any other woman and it'd still work for the most part.

I'm sure it could but it's still Anita's name there. And hell he barely even mentions the very organization bringing her in to talk. You'd think with how angry he feels at feminists, he'd make the very students he plans to shoot the major subject of the threat but he still chose Anita.

 

[Nephtis]

Guys please excuse me ignorance but why do you think #gmaergate is bad ?

Check this thread out. It will answer any questions you have about #GG.

 

[bidguy]

this is pretty insane

its like they dont have anything else to do

 

[PhoenixDark]

Where is the direct connection to video games and GamerGate?

The threat is obviously from an anti-feminist. I read that as if he would be making the same threat to any other feminist. Sarkeesian just happens to be the feminist speaking at the time. The threat mentions killing random feminists that have no connections to video games as well as how feminists have ruined his life. The threat lacks specificity towards Sarkeesian, and instead it seems as if it is in reaction to the wider ideology of feminism. (Editoster below spent a bit too much time after missing my point. The threat lacks a specificity towards her that couldn't be applied towards any other feminist. I think the reference to fantasizing is the writer telling us what makes her a feminist. Taking this as a serious threat; I would be worried about this individual near any feminist - not just limited to those involved in video games. Wow.)

She did the right thing by canceling. I would have as well.

A couple of posters have noted that Sarkeesian said the threat directly mentioned GamerGate. Is there a quote or link that I may have missed?

I hope they find the emailer and put him away.

If you can't tell that threat relates to GameGate you're being obtuse. She is largely known for her criticism of gaming, which has garnered significantly more attention than her music or film/tv criticism.

 

[jon bones]

Guys please excuse me ignorance but why do you think #gmaergate is bad ?

bunch of misogystic man children crying about how feminism is ruining their favorite toy

This is on the news, and will just link Gamersgate to terrorism and school shootings. And then they will be done.

let's hope so

 

[Red Mage]

"Forced to cancel my talk at USU after receiving death threats because police wouldn't take steps to prevent concealed firearms at the event," she tweeted. "Requested pat downs or metal detectors after mass shooting threat but because of Utah's open carry laws police wouldn’t do firearm searches."

I don't see how open carry would stop the police from frisking anyone:

77-7-16. Authority of peace officer to frisk suspect for dangerous weapon — Grounds.

A peace officer who has stopped a person temporarily for questioning may frisk the person for a dangerous weapon if he reasonably believes he or any other person is in danger.

So, it sounds less like a problem with the law and more with the cops refusing to put much effort into it.

 

[FyreWulff]

I mean, for what it's worth you could replace Sarkeesian's name with the name of pretty much any other woman and it'd still work for the most part.

You could literally replace any death threat target's name with another person's name and it still works because it's a death threat.

 

[FLEABttn]

CBS news is covering the death threats and gamers gate this morning.

 

[n00bsauce87]

As much as people dislike the current law, would it be more prudent to write to our congressmen and state government to make amendments/change laws? I mean you'll invoke the rage of the NRA, but don't you want to actually do something than moan and grown behind a computer screen?

All of this feeling bad and sad is utterly pointless unless you can make policy changes. Disengaged (politically) folks' opinions matter little and less. Good discussion, but eventually it'll hit archives and no one from GAF will care. Make a phone call to Utah's state government. In fact, Anita could have used this to get people to make changes. If she doesn't like it, there's gonna be quite a few states she may have a problem having public events at then. Especially now that NY Times have shown Americans that all one has top do is make a mass murder threat to make her stop the talk. It'll be too easy to prevent her from engaging public event from here on in.

 

[Zoe]

I don't see how open carry would stop the police from frisking anyone:



So, it sounds less like a problem with the law and more with the cops refusing to put much effort into it.

It doesn't have to do with open carry, it has to do with concealed carry. She was wrong about that.

 

[diehard]

As much as people dislike the current law, would it be more prudent to write to our congressmen and state government to make amendments/change laws? I mean you'll invoke the rage of the NRA, but don't you want to actually do something than moan and grown behind a computer screen?

All of this feeling bad and sad is utterly pointless unless you can make policy changes. Disengaged (politically) folks' opinions matter little and less. Good discussion, but eventually it'll hit archives and no one from GAF will care. Make a phone call to Utah's state government. In fact, Anita could have used this to get people to make changes. If she doesn't like it, there's gonna be quite a few states she may have a problem having public events at then. Especially now that NY Times have shown Americans that all one has top do is make a mass murder threat to make her stop the talk. It'll be too easy to prevent her from engaging public event from here on in.

The Utah public doesn't want this law revoked.

I don't either.

 

[Red Mage]

It doesn't have to do with open carry, it has to do with concealed carry. She was wrong about that.

So, either she does not understand how Concealed Carry works or the cops are still being ignorant/lazy. Utah's CC is thorough enough that it's accepted in 32 other states, and has strict criminal and mental restrictions in place. You cannot even have a conviction for substance abuse, for crying out loud. Also, the cops can still demand to see a person's CC Permit, so how can they say it'd stop them from searching people?

 

[massoluk]

So, either she does not understand how Concealed Carry works or the cops are still being ignorant/lazy. Utah's CC is thorough enough that it's accepted in 32 other states, and has strict criminal and mental restrictions in place. You cannot even have a conviction for substance abuse, for crying out loud. Also, the cops can still demand to see a person's CC Permit, so how can they say it'd stop them from searching people?

The issue we have here is not how strict CC is, it's the authority citing laws into refusing to conduct basic search at all in that particular event.

 

[Zoe]

So, either she does not understand how Concealed Carry works or the cops are still being ignorant/lazy. Utah's CC is thorough enough that it's accepted in 32 other states, and has strict criminal and mental restrictions in place. You cannot even have a conviction for substance abuse, for crying out loud. Also, the cops can still demand to see a person's CC Permit, so how can they say it'd stop them from searching people?

The cops went with an interpretation of the law that says people on a public university campus can only be screened for concealed carry in the one designated hearing location. All other locations, such as the venue where the talk was to be held, are hands off.