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Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows

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You know what, I'm not even going to bother for once. I have a science report to write, dammit.
She is the worst possible version of any 'hacker' archetype. If she ends up being anything more than she is now, the MCU will be worse for it.

Anyways, does the Ba Sing Se royal bloodline have any actual earthbenders in there? Also why has Omashu been absent from this season?
 
Yeah, for everyone who doesn't like talking about Arrow, I'm sorry. That's definitely my fault. It's just that it's my current go-to example of awful TV, so whenever we talk about negative aspects of Korra here, like characters we wish to die, my mind immediately goes "Yeah, I totally understand where your coming from because in Arrow..."

And Static, I started watching Doctor WHo. On episode 6 currently. It's alright. I'm not a big fan of whimsy or nonsensism, but atleast they use it here to create genuinely compelling moral dilemma's. Writing has that Moffat wit, though plot points are pretty unsubtle when I don't think they should be. I like it, but it's not yet blowing my mind.

She is the worst possible version of any 'hacker' archetype. If she ends up being anything more than she is now, the MCU will be worse for it.

Nope, not getting into it.

And Felicity already took that place with her "My laptop can do anything" bs, and Skye has the benefit of having more character than just being the girl that doesn't fit in the situation she's in.
 
She is the worst possible version of any 'hacker' archetype. If she ends up being anything more than she is now, the MCU will be worse for it.

Anyways, does the Ba Sing Se royal bloodline have any actual earthbenders in there? Also why has Omashu been absent from this season?
Probably not. None of the royalty there have showcased any kind of bending ability. Bending over there might just be something that's prevalent amongst the "labor" class. Even Toph's parents couldn't bend.
 
Yeah, for everyone who doesn't like talking about Arrow, I'm sorry. That's definitely my fault. It's just that it's my current go-to example of awful TV, so whenever we talk about negative aspects of Korra here, like characters we wish to die, my mind immediately goes "Yeah, I totally understand where your coming from because in Arrow..."

And Static, I started watching Doctor WHo. On episode 6 currently. It's alright. I'm not a big fan of whimsy or nonsensism, but atleast they use it here to create genuinely compelling moral dilemma's. Writing has that Moffat wit, though plot points are pretty unsubtle when I don't think they should be. I like it, but it's not yet blowing my mind.

Start at series 1 or 5 btw?
 
Not a good idea IMHO. Moffat's Who builds off of earlier episodes he worked on, and I feel those are required watching to get the most out of his seasons.

Well, I'm already like halfway through the season, so I'm not stopping now. I'll go back if I end up enjoying it enough.
 
The rule just came out of nowhere, Hiroshi dropped the wall and yelled at Lin she can't bend it, weird way to nerf metal benders.

Remember, they don't actually bend the metal, they bend the impurities of earth within it. The idea is that the platinum they use in the series is pure.

I thought platinum was established in ATLA?
 
Remember, they don't actually bend the metal, they bend the impurities of earth within it. The idea is that the platinum they use in the series is pure.

I thought platinum was established in ATLA?

Not quite. They establish they can't bend metal in general, just the earth impurities within the metal. Theoreticallly, should be unable to bend iron or steel that's pure enough as well.

I'm not sure why those are not considered 'earth' though, logically speaking...but TLA physics isn't the same as real life physics anyway.
 
Remember, they don't actually bend the metal, they bend the impurities of earth within it. The idea is that the platinum they use in the series is pure.

I thought platinum was established in ATLA?
I don't believe it was. Super heavy solid platinum wall and mechs...must have cost a shit ton of money.
 
Flash characters are...well, I just think they're a bunch of idiots. Which I guess is better than the actual contempt I have for Arrow's.

Really, both shows are pretty bad.

Nah Captian Cold was great, mainly because he was cheesy, savvy as fuck and wants a challenge.

Everybody else... i can see that (except maybe
Wells but he's just creepy as hell with the Flash obsession
) tbh.

Barry: comes with the territory of being the MC

Iris: blind as a bat, kill most scenes imo since Barry's brain just turns into mush at that point. Also i see the Clark/Superman/Lois dynamic might happen to her given her growing obsession with "the streak".

Joe: Competent but my god at that fail in regards to Barry's dad Snafu

Eddie: Bland and kinda dumb for walking in such a mine field (why do you want to date your partner's daughter?, then he does it behind his back? did he forget Joe is a fucking detective aka the job he also has?). Only his comic history might save him right now

Kaitin: kinda annoying and that comic reveal seems really obvious at this point (especially with the Robbie stuff). She just needs a push imo to go there and if its revealed that wells knew the accident would happen and allowed it to happen, then that might be it right here.

other dude: way to go giving the best character the means to stop the hero dead in his tracks and stop with the villain naming. Although i have to thank him since best character got elevated because of his stupidity.


It just dives into the cheese and the actual purpose of the show. Olli needed three season to find himself, Flash did it within a few episodes.

Indeed.

i haven't watched arrow yet but it sounds like he's all angst so far and nowhere near the dude he turns into from the comics/games/etc.

Flash's Rouges are pretty famous for being awesome, but despite being a huge DC fan, I'm not sure where to start with them comics wise. And I don't really remember them in the JL cartoons besides Gorilla Grodd. Still, I refuse to believe they couldn't have set some ground rules or atleast would choose to avoid scenes that outright contradict his powers like that Iris one (Which was extremely pointless as everyone already knows how much he wants to smang her). But they didn't, and that's a big lump for me to get over. Superhero's are basically impossible to do without some allowances in suspension of disbelief, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't even try.

Captian Cold has done well so far so lets see if Heatwave can deliver. Also Gorilla Grodd is apparently confirmed to be appearing so that should be interesting as well.

Yea that iris scene was damn stupid (and it seems any scene with her tbh) but that contradiction has always been my issue with the flash though.

its sad they didn't try to alleviate it a bit.

....

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So i guess that scene of Su in the trailer is her being imprisoned or to be executed given the stuff she's gonna attempt next ep?
 
Nah Captian Cold was great, mainly because he was cheesy, savvy as fuck and wants a challenge.


Joe: Competent but my god at that fail in regards to Barry's dad Snafu

its sad they didn't try to alleviate it a bit.

Captain Cold was cool, I'll give you that.

Joe is probably my most disliked character.
Asshole ruined his daughters dream of being a cop and is apparently too emotionally immature to deal with being partners with his daughters boyfriend. For fucks sake man, the woman is atleast 20 years old, he's treating her like she's 12 and just getting interested in boys. And he puts the blame partially on his daughter for this (or atleast doesn't object to her apologizing for it when she did nothing wrong).
 
Legend of Korra Book 4 is coming to TV but on Nicktoons and on a Friday at 9PM.
Well at least its something.

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Even when the thread doesn't dive into soft core porn people still complain, can't win.

Time to start shipping wars till friday then.

Korra x Mako for Episode 7 with a big finale kiss at the end anyone? Anyone?

Also Opal x revived Dark Avatar Unalaq?
and spirit Ozai
 
Captain Cold was cool, I'll give you that.

Joe is probably my most disliked character.
Asshole ruined his daughters dream of being a cop and is apparently too emotionally immature to deal with being partners with his daughters boyfriend. For fucks sake man, the woman is atleast 20 years old, he's treating her like she's 12 and just getting interested in boys. And he puts the blame partially on his daughter for this (or atleast doesn't object to her apologizing for it when she did nothing wrong).

haha "cool".

Also his subtle reaction when that dude named him was fucking great.

as for Joe
i can see that he's overprotective, especially with a job such as being a cop but yea he could have reduced that leash a bit since she now a grown woman (not sure if he could shake the cop career choice though)

Also you have to wonder how the fuck Barry thinks he could even be considered a choice given this and he's so close to them. As said before Barry is a fucking idiot whenever she's involved, seriously.

Eddie jumping in that like he did is straight up dumb also, but if that is seen as the most "optimal" way then yikes Joe fucked up.
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Korra Twist: Vaatu returns due to keeping a copy of himself somewhere waiting for another "dark avatar", Kaiju match again but he wins, Koh comes in and steals everyone's faces.
 
If they somehow had planned this from the beginning and somehow pulled it off, this would be the greatest twist in animated television history.

But they didn't.

they can't really pull this off unless they pull a Shutter Island.

(Shutter Island spoilers)
And make it where Korra is insane and everybody is putting up a play where she's the avatar in hopes she'll cope with reality and snap out of it. All of the bad guys are part of the medical crew trying to heal her, Mako is her psychiatrist, Bolin is the activities director, and Asami is the mechanic. The bending she thinks she has been doing has been somebody near her bending
 
I sense some people are going to be real salty by the end of the season.

Toa TAK gon be mad Kuvira is Queen's daughter. And Chariot gon be mad Opal isn't evil.
 
It wouldn't have to do a shutter island type thing to work. There are many ways they could handle the scenario really. Something that just pops into my head is have it so some spirity stuff happen with this guy that allowed him to bend 4 elements, but he sucks at reaching his spiritual side (because he doesn't actually have Raava's spirit). So he thinks it's just something he needs to overcome, but then it's revealed that someone on the bad end is the avatar after all which would explain why the guy could never get attain his avatar state,

Then the end of the series would be him somehow beating the bad guy and taking Raava from him so he actually becomes the avatar himself. Of course the explanations and whatnot would have to be super fleshed out. The spirit world stuff brings a lot of possibilities.
 
She might not be the queen's daughter, maybe she came from a disowned line of royal blood or something.

Anything like this would be pretty surprising to me. Avatar has mostly stuck to the standard fairy tale convention of all and only legitimate kings being good kings. This is a way of dealing with the divine right problem I've brought up before.

In ATLA, Bumi is presumptively legitimate (although it's actually pretty unclear how he got the position) and seems to always know best. The chief of the Northern Water Tribe likewise seems to be a generally trusted and competent leader. Ba Sing Se at first seems to cut the other way, but then we find out that the king doesn't actually have much power and a lot of the bad stuff is due to the usurper Long Feng.

Only the Fire Nation in all of ATLA looks like it's doing this differently, but even here it's only Sozin and Azulon who are both legitimate and terrible, and they're minor characters who aren't even alive except in flashbacks. They may also have been pretty good as far as the typical Fire Nation citizen is concerned; presumably for the vast majority of Sozin's rule the Fire Nation was a really nice place to live, relative to everywhere else. The show is all-but-explicit that Ozai, probably with Ursula's help, did something underhanded to get himself named heir right as or after Azulon died, and obviously Iroh would have been a better Fire Lord. Azula isn't even Ozai's firstborn herself.

LoK likewise goes out of its way to suggest that leaders who do very bad things weren't legitimate in the first place. Unalaq only became chief because he (treasonously) arranged to have Tonraq banished. Meanwhile Tonraq is portrayed as a very decent guy who deserves the respect the southerners have for him. Zuko's daughter came by the crown honestly and we have every reason to think she's pretty good at the job. Wu is a fop but we have no reason to think he'd be bad for the Earth Kingdom (he even expresses disinterest in governing and a desire to just take the advice of people who know what they're doing). Unalaq's kids seem to be doing decently at the north pole, perhaps mirroring Zuko (they're the children of usurpers but are not themselves guilty, and have plausible claims insofar as Iroh and Tonraq were too old and uninterested and Korra is presumably disqualified).

The glaring exception is the Earth Queen, of course. But even here there's a strong contrast between the EQ and Kuvira insofar as clearly it was overall better to have the EQ than it was to have Zaheer's anarchy or Kuvira's whatever-it-is. I get the feeling that the EQ did bad things only because the writers wanted Zaheer to not come across as just obviously evil in the way that he would if he'd been trying to "take out" someone like ATLA's Earth King, even though Zaheer himself wouldn't have cared much about the difference. Likewise Wu is a clown in order to give a veneer of respectability to Kuvira's seizing of power. These two bend the convention as minor characters in order to serve a major storytelling purpose. Kuvira having some kind of claim to the throne would shatter it.

So Kuvira as more of a Long Feng seems to me to be much more consistent with how the shows have handled royal lineage. Also if Kuvira had a claim wouldn't she have said something by now, like maybe when she was announcing that she was taking over?
 
Gotchaye, you mention the divine right a lot in your posts, but I'm not sure if you disagree with how the show portrays it or are just making the observation?
 
Gotchaye, you mention the divine right a lot in your posts, but I'm not sure if you disagree with how the show portrays it or are just making the observation?

Mostly observing in my above post. It's a slight annoyance that the series does resort to that sort of storytelling shorthand, especially in Ozai's case, and I never really found the Dai Lee choosing Azula plausible. But I didn't say much here until one of the early episodes this season of Korra, where I suggested that the show had a "divine right problem", by which I meant it would have trouble dealing with the difference between the characters' ideas of political legitimacy and the audience's ideas. The Earth Queen was something of a problem this way, where the audience's reaction to her death was going to be a lot different than the characters' because the audience is totally on board with the whole "whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it" thing. The audience's natural reaction is to think that while maybe killing her was wrong a revolution was certainly justifiable.

It's just very hard to have good guys and bad guys, which is what the show wants to do, when we're talking about radically different cultures. George Washington owned people, and all that - if you make a movie about his life and you want him to come across as being at all sympathetic you're going to have to leave an awful lot out. You can mostly get by by just sort of blurring out the inconvenient bits, so if your good guy is a king just never show us any peasants who would rather he not be the king. Have your good king be popular to a hugely unrealistic degree. So I felt like LoK stepped in it by having people objecting to even Kuvira's own presentation of her mission early on, and it was particularly bad when Opal suggested she adopt a modern-style humanitarian mission. You have to be really confident in your writing to try that instead of just having the governor volunteer to join Kuvira after she brings supplies. This is what Holy Grail was joking about with the "well I didn't vote for you" guy. This is having Oney Judge show up in your George Washington movie.
 
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