OK, but I really wish they weren't spending 50% or more of the final season of the show having the main character get over that trauma.
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Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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Icyflamez96
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Weren't a lot of people talking about how BS they thought Korra's healing was anyway? Welp.
It took me almost 4 years to finally get over some trauma of mine..Korra won some battles, but its a long war
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They're over doing it.
JadedWriter
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I'd honestly prefer if this season was about Kuvira going from nation to nation single handedly wrecking fools. Would set her up as a better threat before you got to the avatar fight. I hope she fights more for the rest of this season. By this point Zaheer and the Z-team whupped ass on a weekly basis. You knew they were a threat well before Korra even knew about them.thread is 2negative4me
let us think of how Kuvira was out here bodying the avatar just because she can instead of why it happened
the boxing stance she kept up through the fight made it that much better
Well the problem is, they were jumping around to the other plots. So they weren't really focusing on Korra's healing sessions as much as they should have. But it still took up 4 episodes. I think people took an issue more so, with how they had the healing/training, then they had her "get the metal out"...only for it to not really have worked, thus putting us all the way back at square one when we are 50% into the season. It basically makes the first 4 episodes feel like a waste of time.
I think this is more of an issue of the writers never being that good at juggling plot. At least for me, I've found the Kuvira main conflict to be moving way too slow as a result of them jumping back and forth. I almost wish they would have just focused solely on Korra and got that out of the way. Or, not have had her training with Toph until after the Kuvira fight. I think that would alleviated a lot of these issues. It's kind of strange to think, we are half way into the final run of episodes, and we know we have 2-3 more episodes of Korra trying to re-coup (all while Kuvira will just be off in the distance building up her attack). I dunno.
This season has just been kind of boring. And I'm kind of getting iffy on what their end game plan is. If the rest of the season is just Korra re-couping, Kuvira in the distance ramping up to attack Republic City, Korra gets healed and the final battle is the war at Republic City....
Is that really a great series ender? I dunno. It's alright.
Icyflamez96
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I don't disagree with that stuff, I was just stating it because, well, it's a thing that people had a problem with, that is now kind of addressed and confirms to those people that her healing was actually a % of BS, but at the same time causes other issues.
Yeah that's true, good point. Hmmmm
I think we just need to sit back and just see how this plays out. All we can do right now is just make assumptions and guesses. Just got to have faith in Bryke. BRYKE will surely save us.
EDIT: I'm actually being serious. I can understand people feeling a bit iffy on where this season could be going (or what it has done so far). But on a positive note, every single episode has been enjoyable (and is actually good in its own right). And we still got 50% left. So things could end really great. You never know!
I guess it might be a little early to rank bad guys with Kuvira. But I guess I would go...
Amon > Zaheer > Kuvira > Unalaq.
I liked Zaheer's story overall, but Amon still wins for me, just based on his presence and his story (the set up of it, before it all came together). So while I did not like how his story wrapped up, the whole equalist plot was awesome and Amon was awesome.
I guess Kuvira could move around depending on where this season goes.
Amon > Zaheer > Kuvira > Unalaq.
I liked Zaheer's story overall, but Amon still wins for me, just based on his presence and his story (the set up of it, before it all came together). So while I did not like how his story wrapped up, the whole equalist plot was awesome and Amon was awesome.
I guess Kuvira could move around depending on where this season goes.
Icyflamez96
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who are you kidding we're doomed
JadedWriter
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Korra needs to either speak to a psychologist or Zuko. If anybody knows about finding their purpose in life it's him.
JadedWriter
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Zaheer was at least grown up enough not to be tormented by "daddy issues."
Icyflamez96
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I agree with all of this, although you said earlier that Kuvira was almost on Unalaq levels which I have to super disagree with.
In Bryke we trust. But yeah that recent Q&A of theirs recently really soured the two for me as it became more obvious that a lot of the issues that could have been blamed on Nick turned out to be their fault.
Yeah pretty much my order at the moment. Might as well also add the rest of the Red Lotus crew and the Lieutenant as they are infinitely more fun to watch compared to Unalaq.
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Pretty much how I would rank it too, Kuvira had so much potential
shira
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I want Tenzin to be Zuko's. Please Bryke Salvage this Book.
Amon and Zaheer were actually the most believable villains in the avatar universe. Both of them had valid points but were cartoonishly detailed by the end of there seasons.
The way Zaheer went out was worse to me because I was just getting over the Amon thing and Zaheer wasn't made out as an all powerful being but just a man on a mission.
The way Zaheer went out was worse to me because I was just getting over the Amon thing and Zaheer wasn't made out as an all powerful being but just a man on a mission.
Pretty much how I would rank it too, Kuvira had so much potential
There's still 7 episodes left. Enough time for Smug Kuvira to shine.
JadedWriter
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She did. She shouldn't have been so needlessly stoic for the first half of the season. Cocky and smug don't fix her, but if they really had fun with it from the very beginning it really would've helped.Pretty much how I would rank it too, Kuvira had so much potential
I was just being facetious. She's not anywhere close to Unalaq. Kuvira at least has a unique fighting style, and her personality is interesting the more we see it. The only gripe I have about Kuvira I guess, more so has to do with me feeling her plot is moving a bit too slow, and that I'm kind of iffy on her motivations. I think, we are supposed to accept that Kuvira just wants power, and that is all her motivation is. Which is fine. If there is nothing more to the political plot line, and it just boils down to a single person loving power and wanting it, then okay. BUT then that person really needs to come out swinging and be entertaining as a threat. So I'm waiting to see how Kuvira holds up in the back half.
Hidden One
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thread is 2negative4me
let us think of how Kuvira was out here bodying the avatar just because she can instead of why it happened
the boxing stance she kept up through the fight made it that much better
I love Kuvira..
m_shortpants
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you rite
In any case, I don't think people are complaining about why Korra lost to Kuvira, rather that it was just predictable.
Anyway, can't any metalbender just bend Kuvira's outfit like she did to Varrick? Or does it cancel out since Kuvira is a metalbender too?
JadedWriter
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I think Korra could learn a lot by hearing Zuko talk to her about how he used to be and what he learned by finding out the plan that Ozai had for him wasn't his destiny. He had to suffer and be humbled through his journey to find out what his true path is. She needs a different voice, she's been going to Tenzin for advice since the beginning and it doesn't really sink in for her.
Icyflamez96
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Zaheer's quotes at the end of episode 1 were
Oh, okay. I thought you were dead serious.
*insert image of small icon of that one guy wiping his head that would have come in handy for me to use many times over the years that I COULD NEVER FIND*
Oh, okay. I thought you were dead serious.
Zaheer was certainly flawed. I think his biggest issue was that, they didn't spend enough time with him or his group to really explain why they believed in what they believed in. Or they didn't spend enough time on what they believed in, in general. It was all surface level.
BUT...Zaheer and the Z-team were a ton of fun to watch. They were really entertaining (their fight sequences were always intense). Zaheer himself wasn't even a master class bender, and they made a point to show that he wasn't. But he was very good at knowing when to flee, or when to be strategic (and use backup). Zaheer got bonus points for actually having something he truly believed in too (rather than it just being a ruse for personal gain).
Icyflamez96
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Is there a certain name for these icons?
Still kind of funny to think, Zaheer was...fuckin flying. Like legit, flying. Dude straight up became superman.
depends they became popular from another site but were started from a site that that site got it's icons from
First time I seen this show jump the shark in terms of bending and actually made it still enjoyable. When he flew away with Korra after taking her, I just realized that we are in fact in the void
Icyflamez96
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Yeah I blame that mostly on the short length of the season.
m_shortpants
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They're in the post menu...do you have neogaf gold?
JadedWriter
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Those guys needed an episode to themselves for backstory. How they met, how they got into the Red Lotus and everything. I loved that team I was so pissed when they died at the end. Whole ending left me depressed, bastards.
Icyflamez96
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are you referring to jackie's last name
Nah. You have to have that to access them from Neogaf?
Certainly. That and, Bryke stacking new characters and new plot on top of each other. I still loved Book 3 front to back. And enjoyed Zaheer's story to the very end. But it was hard not feel a tad bit disappointed when all was said and done (just the lack of depth to him). But as I've said a bunch of times, if you aren't going to have a ton of depth or motivation, you have to at least be damn entertaining. And Zaheer + his group certainly were.
I know right? Remember when Bolin was captured, and we got to see them interact with one another. And they actually seemed to have an interesting relationship. I just wish we got to see how they became a team. How they became so devoted to Zaheer and his belief system. That is something this show has always kind of missed I think. Like, even Kuvira could have been given a reason for why she believes her system is in place (like a backstory that shows why the old system failed her, and drove her to have conviction in what she's doing). Same with Zaheer. They always fail to give us like THAT REASON the villains came be who they are. I think when you do that, it makes things a bit more complex as you can start to sympathize with them a bit more, or at the very least understand them.
no was talking about thecoli and kanyetothe lol
Icyflamez96
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I have never heard of these sites.
hiphop and sport sites....and literally everything else inbetween
edit: Is anyone expecting a swerve from bataar
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From that gif she looks like Mako with long hair
Yeah, his last 20 seconds or so with him whining and Bolin shoving a sock in his mouth damn near ruined him and the season for me.
Icyflamez96
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I've seen multiple so I didn't want to specify exactly which one I wanted.
and I was actually more looking for the one that's not obama
Would have been fun but Bryke have never been great at juggling their characters recently and their insistence that miniseries are where its at but keep writing well out of the time limits that 13 episodes give them.
RIP Ghazan too good for this world.
JadedWriter
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The show never sticks the landing with the villains because it never spends enough time with them. They're the way they are for a reason and for the most part minus Unalaq they actually think of interesting villains, but they hide them under a shroud of villainy without portraying them as actual people. Kuvira really needs a back story episode especially since she's an orphan. Last season we thought she was born in Zaofu, she's not so where did she come from? What happened to her family? Who trained her? Who designer her armor and everything. So many questions that will probably never be touched because we might actually like the villains. Even comic book villains get back story. Look at Dr. Doom, plenty of back story there that we know about.
RIP Ghazan and your hair. The show can't juggle characters for shit. We've seen more Zhu li than Kai now. Why have Kai last season if you're not really going to have him here. His time last year was better off going to Kuvira. Drop him and put Kuvira in Team Avatar last season and just run with it.
Was actually surprised they didn't get a back episode build.
Said it before, nothing is wrong with the 13 episode setup, but the shows that do have it, that they are trying to emulate, were an hour long.
Yeah 13 episodes this Season/Book.
Still crazy to think that Book 3 finished only about 2 months ago.
Icyflamez96
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Yup, and if this series had hour long episodes, it'd have almost twice the amount of content as ATLA (I didn't really think about that so my math could be off)
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shira
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Yeah it would be cool to have Zuko talk time - lessons from the past helping the future. I would also accept a peptalk from
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