Add the numbers up and you'll see. Unless MS is selling close to 3/4 of what it sells in NA in the over seas markets, there's no way they're close to what you think they are. We have NPD numbers and we know they aren't doing squat WW outside of the UK. Where are these mystery consoles going to you think?
Microsoft: Xbox One leading sales in US since price cut, nearly 10 million sold-in
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Good to know. Hope I stay feeling the same then
Haha, there's actually a game called "SJ Warrior" or something like that and it's largely comprised of two sides debating their viewpoints to try to subtract HP and sanity from the person.
I bet it could be expanded
Where's that ancient Gahiggidy gif about the forum post? You know the one where it's like an NES game about his forum posting? That shit was hilarious.
This is a good point. The regular SKU is not outselling the PS4. It's the bundle games. How long can MS keep bundling everything? Are they going to be doing this for the entire generation? So technically we haven't seen what a standard $350 SKU can do against PS4.
If they keep the price the same next year I think it will have the same affect as the $399 price. I want to see how many bundles they do in 2015. Cause that seems to be the only way to complete with PS4.
I am talking only about the parity clause, as their relations team is fantastic and everything about their indie program is really great. It's just the damn parity clause that's screwing everything up.
This SJ Warrior thing sounds incredible, lol.
To sum it up, Microsoft managed to triple Xbone sales in the USA in the first week of their current sale compared to the week prior to the sale (when hardly anyone bought an Xbone because everybody who wanted one was waiting for the sale to start). And they currently have less than 10 million Xbones shipped to retailers worldwide.
Miles Quaritch
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I'll go first.
I challenge Hindle to a debate. Y2Kev can moderate.
Face me, oh educated one.
I challenge Hindle to a debate. Y2Kev can moderate.
Face me, oh educated one.
lmfao
I'm confused as to why you would make this analogy. Cars that catch fire have to potential to kill someone. If I was going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a vehicle, I would like to know if there's some error in manufacturing that could result in an extremely painful death.
This applies to games as well (Want to know pros and cons if I'm spending money), albeit less so.
Impeccable
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Hindle is dead.
Well, to be scientific, the Ps4 smelled like this;
The Xbone smelled like this;
(Believe it or not its using a different kind of plastic)
So, if you work out these formulas in a lab, you will see that the Ps4 and the Xbone smell different! (This only applies to the white xbone, not the black xbone, which i assume smell different).
That's hawt. Only thing better than the smell of new electronics is maybe the smell of old books.
Endoplasmatisch
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Ah, ok. so the best Thing would be, if Microsoft would just drop that parity clause. Free Unity and free devkits is a good first step. The only Thing that is missing is the removal of the parity clause.
Maybe they will drop it. I don't know. But the mass of Gamers seriously won't care... I just hope some day indie games get the respect and Attention they deserve. I had a LOT of more fun with indie games, than with retail titles, lately...
Resogun was great! (reminded of super stardust HD on PS3 can't wait for the successor) can't wait for RIME, too. Can't believe Microsoft passed on rime... smh
Anyway, BTT. the NPD results will Show, what all this PR Crap ACTUALLY means, without all this Spinning-nonsense
Then I hope you only use a bicycle as a mode of transportation because every single car model ever made has caught fire at one point or another.
Handy Fake
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He went out guns blazing though. Like Mouse in The Matrix.
What does it smell like? What did the PS4 smell like? My Titatfall Xbone box barely smelled like anything at all
My PS3 and 360 boxes smelled freaking great when cracked open.
N64 games, now those had a great smell. Better than SNES in my opinion.
Please be detailed and answer before someone shits all over your Xbone purchase and ruins the high.
I put my controller back in the plastic sometimes to keep that new smell. When i first opend the box.....oh my. But the smell is slowly going away.
Every single car model ever made has a manufacturing defect that causes it to catch fire? Every single one, in the history of automobiles? No. I think not.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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gotta say i thought i couldnt get more shocked after watching this Borgia episode last night where this dude
until i refreshed my tablet and saw it blew from 2 pages to 15.
i quickly went through the thread and boy im shocked to the core to think some super spin would get so many meltdowns lol.
get sawed off from his taint? to the head, virtually cutting him in half or this dude getting a Pope's Pear in his ass
i quickly went through the thread and boy im shocked to the core to think some super spin would get so many meltdowns lol.
Alright, so how does this comparison work becuase every ps4 is going to be running the exact same code and inevitably those users are going spend a lot of their time in the low 20s for fps anytime they go near a crowd?
So you picked one obscure, very low rated title and you choose to compare it with two, high-profile, unreleased games?
Whatever your point was, you didn't make it.
I already stated in another post that maybe the performance gap is larger than I expected between the x1 and ps4 versions. My experience with the X1 version has been pretty good thus far, obviously I can't speak towards the PS4 version but I didn't think it would be that bad. Apparently I'm wrong, and if that's the case, Ubisoft really did fuck up.
Not to mention, the post I was referring to was stating that xbox one was bundled with two broken games (Black Flag and Unity). I was simply stating that I don't believe that's the case.
Oh cmon the spin is hilarious and fun for the whole family. Who is this going to sway anyway? Particularly dim bandwagoners?
My DVR Guide is shit compared to Xbox One, but then I only ever really watch sports and not that often until basketball playoffs.
I stand corrected. Thank you both. Ah, I see it was Yusef who wrote the press release. That explains everything.
Edit: I really want to know what their sell-through numbers are. It has to be bad considering how they're swinging for the fences this holiday season.
I'm still holding off on mine. I may pull the trigger for Xmas if the money is there for the H5 beta, but the MCC online being a turd ferguson doesn't have me set to drop green backs on black friday even though I'd like to.
I wish that Kohl's deal came back. Then it'd be a no brainer haha.
I wish that Kohl's deal came back. Then it'd be a no brainer haha.
Thunder Monkey
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I'd wager both are going to be over 1 million units sold in Nov and Dec.
Is BF counted for Nov or Dec this year?
I'd wager MS takes November by at the max of 200K units over PS4. At the absolute maximum. Both will show a very healthy market. WiiU might get up to 500k units in November this year!
Is BF counted for Nov or Dec this year?
I'd wager MS takes November by at the max of 200K units over PS4. At the absolute maximum. Both will show a very healthy market. WiiU might get up to 500k units in November this year!
BruceLeeRoy
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You can't beat anyone that throws out reason and logic.
November covers BF.
AstroNut325
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Um... are there scoreboards setup in MS and Sony headquarters or something? Are they getting minute by minute/play-by-play breakdowns?
why dont you instead complain on the sony program, where they offer indies promotion and assistance and in return ask for time exclusivity?
or this offer has changed since last time I was in such a discussion here?
one practice (ms) is bad, while other (sony) is good?
I mean, last time I spent ten minutes on the subject, I clearly remember reading indies saying that ms support is far better than sony support.
so, in order to get better support from sony and maybe a window in the sun on sony's console advertisement space (also offered together with the better support offer), indies are asked to provide time exclusivity in return.
then, the same indie devs might complain that they hate ms same release time requirement.
really?
this does not make sense for me. I think it never will.
BruceLeeRoy
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What is this based on?
When an indie developer temporarily associates themselves with Nintendo or Sony they do it because those publisher will otherwise not meaningfully feature them on their storefront.
When they associate themselves with Microsoft they do it because Phil Spencer wore a nice t-shirt the last time they saw him.
as I wrote, based on previous months discussion about same subject.
thats why I also asked if this offer has changed in any way since last time.
BruceLeeRoy
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Ive never even heard that argument since during PSN's early days on PS3.
Ever since the new consoles all I have heard from indies is how night and day the relationship has been between MS and Sony. I mean it seemed for a while every indie on twitter was only talking about being associated with Sony.
John Bender
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Not gonna happen.
Wickerbasket
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Isn't Sony's offer better for indies? They get promotion in exchange for timed exclusivity. The indies benefit out of that.
Why doesn't Microsoft offer the same deal rather than attempting to punish them for not releasing on their platform first or at the same time as other platforms.
I think hes referring to some one of comment about how ms gives more tools (free unity or something like that) but yeah somehow ignores how indies after indies have come out and said ms parity clause is bad. How they've praised sony and its approach and support again and again etc. But well this thread is going to turn entertaining soon so im going to just wait and watch
platformmaster918
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thank you for that hilarious mental image. I'm looking forward to seeing Shu and Phil with popcorn and high fiving and broing down when they win each minute lol
Dreamgazer
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I think you got the facts wrong, there were indies that had to seek out exclusivity clauses with Sony because of the parity clause:
Facism
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It's a good thing you sourced this!!
Badlucktroll
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Ryse is now listed at $19.99 pre-owned and dead rising 3 is now listed at $29.99 preowned at bestbuy. Should i get both?
highlights are around page 24 . Hindle vs neogaf.
Dreamgazer
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I would wait for Black Friday or Steam (if you have a capable PC.) deals.
Ryse isn't worth $20 used IMO, especially now that we're out of the launch phases.
The Artisan
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I would not call the Ps3 the loser of last generation. I say the Wii is the winner, and 360 & Ps3 tied. They're both sitting at around 80 million units sold. Sure the 360 sold a few million more, but what's a few million when we're talking tens of millions of consoles?
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