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To be fair it was the same in Colours and I think Generations. The difference is that those games didn't really have bullshit deaths and you lost less lives in general so it wasn't an issue.
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Sonic Boom |OT| Sonic 2014
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It blows my mind even more that they did exactly the same to Sonic Lost World.
No lives at first for 100 rings. And then patched it in.
James Scott
Banned
SerTapTap
Member
Interesting...didn't someone say they glitched in better graphics somehow? I saw someone posting screenshots on twitter but without game in hand I couldn't really tell if they were actually better.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=198OyG1YX64
I think this is the most fair review I've seen so far. He doesn't take the glitches into account as you usually have to go out of their way to make them.He mostly focuses on the average "non-Sonic" gameplay and the story and characters.
I do have to agree that for a new take on the Sonic franchise, characters should have been reintroduced properly (that goes for the TV show too) and it's obvious chunks of story were taken out to make room for launch.Sonic goes from team player to acting like an ego maniac for one scene and it's obvious this is the first time Sticks has met the group as she is more savage and talks like Tarzan.
I think this is the most fair review I've seen so far. He doesn't take the glitches into account as you usually have to go out of their way to make them.He mostly focuses on the average "non-Sonic" gameplay and the story and characters.
I do have to agree that for a new take on the Sonic franchise, characters should have been reintroduced properly (that goes for the TV show too) and it's obvious chunks of story were taken out to make room for launch.Sonic goes from team player to acting like an ego maniac for one scene and it's obvious this is the first time Sticks has met the group as she is more savage and talks like Tarzan.
Demon Lizardman
Banned
Good review, the game is just meh, and the genericness kind of hurts the game so much that it makes me say "Other games do it better, so why not play those instead?" Sometimes a broken and embarrassing game like 06 is more fun to play and watch because of how bad it is, at least with that game, they were trying to do something different, it just failed miserably.
James Scott
Banned
I uploaded some screenshots of glitches I found
Single Player::
vs Co-op
edit: The pics that have only Knuckles are me using the super hop to go into un loaded areas. It's pretty easy to replicate although it's not exactly BRB's fault
Also, visuals take a pretty big hit when playing in co-op.
Single Player::
vs Co-op
edit: The pics that have only Knuckles are me using the super hop to go into un loaded areas. It's pretty easy to replicate although it's not exactly BRB's fault
Woah, that's insane. Why would they do such a thing? What could possibly be so graphically intensive about co-op that they have to shit up the game's visuals like this?
Game has a tough time keeping 30fps on its own anyway. I can imagine having to render the game twice, both on the TV and on the gamepad, doesn't help things out.
Are you kidding? The game has to drawn to the TV and the WiiU gamepad. That's a huge extra strain placed on the system. It's much more demanding that regular split-screen even.
Considering the game has a terrible frame-rate in single player this shouldn't be surprising.
Hmm, I might have to replay it now. Those things were quite frustrating especially towards the end.
It's a shame they can't just eliminate the Deadly Six bits too - the stages where they insult Sonic the whole time are worse as a result of this. Boss fights should not be included in the normal stages.
Im finding that to not be the case.There hasnt been a speed section yet where something like this doesnt happen for me:
I mean if youre lucking out and not finding glitches cool, but acting like its not fair to criticize the game for them because if you're not finding it means you have to be going out of your way is super disingenuous
Also, visuals take a pretty big hit when playing in co-op.
Single Player::
vs Co-op
edit: The pics that have only Knuckles are me using the super hop to go into un loaded areas. It's pretty easy to replicate although it's not exactly BRB's fault
Oh my goodness. That is a pretty big hit.
Aaaaaah OK, I thought the game's co-op was single screen, didn't know it was two separate views. That makes sense now.
Worse than Sonic 06 even?
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Surprising in the same way: Worse than Black Knight?
I really want to know what happened.
petethepanda
Member
I still haven't played this, but I've watched more of the cutscenes on YouTube and I'm starting to feel almost bad for the game. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it looks very fun, but the cutscenes seem largely entertaining (though I haven't watched enough to have an impression of the overall story). There is a Sonic game with cutscenes that aren't terrible. That feels somewhat significant and it's a bummer that it's lost in everyone piling on the game. (Which again does look to be kind of crap.)
Edit: Been watching some more straight-through videos... yeah, I might be scaling back my statement a little bit. But I still hold that some individual cutscenes have a ton of personality. The Giant Bomb QL... "Bounce pad!" Man does this look horrible
Edit: Been watching some more straight-through videos... yeah, I might be scaling back my statement a little bit. But I still hold that some individual cutscenes have a ton of personality. The Giant Bomb QL... "Bounce pad!" Man does this look horrible
James Scott
Banned
The metacritic score finally went up and...welp
Demon Lizardman
Banned
Welp...
Still cant believe secret rings has a 69 metacritic. That game was pretty solid
Teriaaaaa!
Neo Member
I think the most depressing thing about this game that since this is a Sonic game so it will still end up selling better than The Wonderful 101, Bayo 2. And it wouldn't surprise me if it ends up doing better than Splatoon or Xenoblade X either.
So I just finished Rise of Lyric. I have to say that was one of the most polished early access games I've ever played 
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The hard mode is incredibly basic, just a slight health and damage increase for the enemies. This is made completely trivial by the fact that death is worthless in this game, and by the time I had beaten the game I had bought the ability that makes me respawn with 100 rings so even if there was a consequence to dying it would never happen.
I know I said I'd 100% the game, but that was before I knew they put princess crowns in the auto run segments. Normally this wouldn't be that bad but when you combine the terrible camera angle on some of them with the horrendous framerate it makes it damn near impossible to tell when you're supposed to jump to activate the hidden paths.
The thing that really saddens me about this game is that I can see potential in it. In better hands I think this could have been really fun.
I'm going to start Shattered Crystal tomorrow. Please don't let me down Sanzaru.
.The hard mode is incredibly basic, just a slight health and damage increase for the enemies. This is made completely trivial by the fact that death is worthless in this game, and by the time I had beaten the game I had bought the ability that makes me respawn with 100 rings so even if there was a consequence to dying it would never happen.
I know I said I'd 100% the game, but that was before I knew they put princess crowns in the auto run segments. Normally this wouldn't be that bad but when you combine the terrible camera angle on some of them with the horrendous framerate it makes it damn near impossible to tell when you're supposed to jump to activate the hidden paths.
The thing that really saddens me about this game is that I can see potential in it. In better hands I think this could have been really fun.
I'm going to start Shattered Crystal tomorrow. Please don't let me down Sanzaru.
jack_package_200
Banned
What does one have to say after 20 years?
Memories of jumping, running and playing.
But sadly your new games confirm our fears
Sega, your owner, knows you aren't well and insists on staying
I remember a hedgehog stylish and quick
And traveling the world on adventures we had
But the new games are terrible and make me sick.
You made us young kids happy
We ran along Green Hills and Chemical Plants
But your new games are quite crappy
Sadly it seems Sega only listens to the sycophants
They love a company that puts you through the ringer.
We long for the days where we played long past
But Sega's treatment of you is quite the stinger.
We look on with our jaws dropped and aghast
Maybe its time to call it quits
The glitches in Sonic Boom make me wince
Big Red made a game that gives us the shits.
Its time to let go. Goodnight Sweet Prince
Memories of jumping, running and playing.
But sadly your new games confirm our fears
Sega, your owner, knows you aren't well and insists on staying
I remember a hedgehog stylish and quick
And traveling the world on adventures we had
But the new games are terrible and make me sick.
You made us young kids happy
We ran along Green Hills and Chemical Plants
But your new games are quite crappy
Sadly it seems Sega only listens to the sycophants
They love a company that puts you through the ringer.
We long for the days where we played long past
But Sega's treatment of you is quite the stinger.
We look on with our jaws dropped and aghast
Maybe its time to call it quits
The glitches in Sonic Boom make me wince
Big Red made a game that gives us the shits.
Its time to let go. Goodnight Sweet Prince
Really? I feel like Sonic games haven't been selling well recently. Bayonetta 2 has sold more than Sonic Lost World according to VG Chartz.
Hero of Legend
Member
We don't talk about Chartz because they've been proven to make up their numbers.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
Never quote anything from that site on GAF or in life.
You're nuts. Sonic '06 is infinitely worse than Lost World. Lost World is at least better than even Sonic Heroes. The fact that Sonic doesn't slip everywhere and you have control over him makes it way more competent than Heroes by far.
The worst 3D Sonics are Shadow, Sonic '06, and Black Knight. You have to be nuts to think Lost World, with its aesthetics, good level design for at least half of the game, and actual control over Sonic himself is worse than the drab Shadow the Hedgehog, the glitchy and practically complete joke that was Sonic '06, and the game that gives Sonic a freaking sword as its main selling point in Black Knight.
You have to be ignoring all the good things Lost World has in it in order to make that claim. I can't believe you actually think it's worse than Shadow the Hedgehog, let alone Sonic '06.
Ah. Well alrighty then.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
That's false so far. Bayo 2 has sold over 66K in its first month. Lost World was nearing 100K. Bayo 2 opened a lot stronger for sure though.
I think this is the point in our lives where we need to understand that things might not be for us anymore and move on. And not have formal death requests because we don't like a thing, not considering the people who actually do because doing that is kind of childish.
I finished the game. Theres moments near the end that for a few minutes actually evoke a fairly fun albeit run of the mill PS2-era platformer, and I wish more of the game operated on that level. Shockingly theres very little platforming in 3D space compared to the other types of gameplay.
Its just overall too bland of a game even if it didnt have all of the glitches and framerate dips. Nothing really fundamentally changes about the brawling, or how youre challenged on each characters specific power. Theres never a platforming moment that made me go "Oh thats pretty clever!" that usually endears me to middling platformers like the recent Pac Mans, Crash Mind Over Mutant or Epic Mickey. Hell even Sonic Lost World a lot of cool ideas.
People seem to dig Shattered Crystal, I might give that a shot when Ive got less to play on the 3DS.
Its just overall too bland of a game even if it didnt have all of the glitches and framerate dips. Nothing really fundamentally changes about the brawling, or how youre challenged on each characters specific power. Theres never a platforming moment that made me go "Oh thats pretty clever!" that usually endears me to middling platformers like the recent Pac Mans, Crash Mind Over Mutant or Epic Mickey. Hell even Sonic Lost World a lot of cool ideas.
People seem to dig Shattered Crystal, I might give that a shot when Ive got less to play on the 3DS.
Poltergust
Member
That really isn't enough of a criticism by itself, you know.
Actually, I think Black Knight is leaps and bounds above Secret Rings, but I think I'm in the minority on that.
Co-op sacrifices graphics and cuts the framerate!? Maximum ring upgrade NEEDS THE 3DS VERSION TO UNLOCK!?
WHAAAAAAT!?
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Im finding that to not be the case.There hasnt been a speed section yet where something like this doesnt happen for me:
I mean if youre lucking out and not finding glitches cool, but acting like its not fair to criticize the game for them because if you're not finding it means you have to be going out of your way is super disingenuous
Hunh. Guess I have been lucking out. I've seen another guy on Miiverse who seems to be having just as bad a time as you.
One odd glitch that came up twice. I'd smash a boulder as Knuckles and hear Amy shout "Nice job, Perci!" Perci being an girl NPC character you meet.
Just got to the underwater area with Sonic and Amy. I've played this portion at several trade shows and the lighting is a fair amount different here. I'm also noticing that scenes must have been left on the cutting room floor.Sonic is suddenly an ego maniac for a short time, Sticks talks like some kind of Tarzan savage and only Sonic and Tails have the water running ability. In hub worlds, you can hear Amy and Knuckles drowning. There must have been a level where Knuckles and Amy got the ability that got cut, hence they never have it in the hub worlds. From what I've heard, Shadow only has one scene where he fights Sonic and Tails for no good reason and is never heard from again. Plus this was SUPPOSED to be a prequel story introducing the cast.
I hope sometime down the line, we find out what really happened in the development of this game.
Well, one good thing I found about collecting rings past 100 is that they contribute to unlocking the concept art.
Nowhere Man
Member
It still seems weird to me that different people running the same software on the same hardware/OS can have drastically different experiences with bugs and glitches. I don't know anything about programming though, I'm sure it makes sense to those that do.
I've completed the game now and I didn't run into very many glitches either. I did see a few but never fell through the world, not even on a speed section. I did clip into the walls some during the water running areas but was able to get back out.
I did encounter 2 big ones. Once while water running I got stuck under the water and couldn't get back out. I though I was going to have to reload but then tried switching characters and that popped me back to the surface.
In another part I died (on purpose to get a collectible I missed) and it spawned me outside of a door that opened for me the first time but was now stuck shut. That time I did have to reload the game and replay the previous 5 minutes or so.
The game is a technical mess and should not have shipped in this state, but I still enjoyed my time with it more or less.
It kind of reminds me of how some people who played Skyward Sword had problems with the Motion Plus controls while others had no problems at all. Although I guess in that case you have to take into account your general environment which can affect how well the Motion Plus works.
To be fair, Hyrule Warriors co-op also made the framerate inconsistent and turned down the resolution. Not to the extent of Boom though which is already running pretty badly.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
Black Knight still kills me
Like, Secret Rings was a decent idea
Like, Secret Rings was a decent idea
I noticed this too, the part with Sonic being an asshole was pretty cool. And kind of sad, because if they'd actually stuck with it instead of dropping the idea after a few scenes it could have really gone somewhere interesting.
So I just finished Rise of Lyric. I have to say that was one of the most polished early access games I've ever played
The hard mode is incredibly basic, just a slight health and damage increase for the enemies. This is made completely trivial by the fact that death is worthless in this game, and by the time I had beaten the game I had bought the ability that makes me respawn with 100 rings so even if there was a consequence to dying it would never happen.
I know I said I'd 100% the game, but that was before I knew they put princess crowns in the auto run segments. Normally this wouldn't be that bad but when you combine the terrible camera angle on some of them with the horrendous framerate it makes it damn near impossible to tell when you're supposed to jump to activate the hidden paths.
The thing that really saddens me about this game is that I can see potential in it. In better hands I think this could have been really fun.
I'm going to start Shattered Crystal tomorrow. Please don't let me down Sanzaru.
Well thats a shame, I was hoping the extreme difficulty might be worthwile trying. I assume you just start from scratch? You don't get to keep any of the things you unlocked from your first playthrough?
I hate this new Boom Sonic BECAUSE he's such an asshole. He is really unlikable. Like, ever since Sonic Colors, Sonics attitude and cockiness has really raised up, but he was still Sonic. But THIS Sonic .hes just a dick. I hardly ever see him smile, he speaks in a very monotone and bored voice, and he treats everyone around him like theyre a bunch of idiots, even his friends. Thats not Sonic! This doesn't just apply to the games, but the TV show too.
James Scott
Banned
Does anyone know how to do the "go back in time and find young Tucker" mission? Or do i need to wait to do it?
HUELEN10
Member
How long did it take you to beat? Is it true the game starts truly breaking down at a round the half-way point?So I just finished Rise of Lyric. I have to say that was one of the most polished early access games I've ever played
The hard mode is incredibly basic, just a slight health and damage increase for the enemies. This is made completely trivial by the fact that death is worthless in this game, and by the time I had beaten the game I had bought the ability that makes me respawn with 100 rings so even if there was a consequence to dying it would never happen.
I know I said I'd 100% the game, but that was before I knew they put princess crowns in the auto run segments. Normally this wouldn't be that bad but when you combine the terrible camera angle on some of them with the horrendous framerate it makes it damn near impossible to tell when you're supposed to jump to activate the hidden paths.
The thing that really saddens me about this game is that I can see potential in it. In better hands I think this could have been really fun.
I'm going to start Shattered Crystal tomorrow. Please don't let me down Sanzaru.
Seeing if I can beat it tonight.
You keep everything. It's an option you toggle in the pause menu.
I'm pretty sure it took me around 6-8 hours. I'll check the play log and post my exact time the next time I turn on my Wii U. Unfortunately yes the game started to break down around the time I made it too the second hub world. I started to encounter way more glitches including some that forced me to exit the game and reload my save.
He's in a secret room in the level where you get the map. IIRC the entrance is in the same room where sonic mentions that they have to get to the security room.
James Scott
Banned
Found a Mario Easter egg in the game by using knuckles and going into a building i wasn't supposed to
