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They could scoop up Constantine if
the worst-case scenario happens &
Knock on wood, #SaveConstantine
Wiktor
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At this point I'm hopin for anyone to rescue Constantine...NBC, Syfy, CW, Amazon...just let the poor bastard live ;D
my money is on Syfy or Netflix
I wouldn't count CW out. They know the value of DC shows & wouldn't put them in a bad time slot. Plus they'd give it more advertising.
unholyrevenger72
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That wouldn't end well, GL is more effects driven then any other hero.
Flash is already stretching the CGI budget as it is.
Suicide Squad is a must. This simply has to happen.
Wiktor
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With Flash doing what it's doing on CW I think a big network or cable could maybe pull off Green Lantern, but CW? Nah. At least not yet. But in few years..maybe...
CreeperBlocks
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I want a Teen Titans Show on CW. then have a big Arrow/ Flash/ Teen Titans Crossover.
Dominican Power
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That whole fight sequence during that promo made me chuckle because of how corny it was.
KillerStar
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Precisely I think it's a nod to Flashpoint, Caitlin talks about electric chair at one point.
evil solrac v3.0
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no it isn't. Barry and Wally have been doing their intro long before Geoff Johns came along. and ditto for Hal Jordan.
unholyrevenger72
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The cost would not be worth it to the networks. The bigger the budget the higher the ratings it needs to pull in, and let's face it Broadcast Television is a dying medium.
Eh, it wouldn't need THAT big a budget.
I mean BBC 1 pulls off some stunning effects on Doctor Who, and that's a lot less than a CW budget. I mean really all they'd need is someone good at doing alien make-up, or just go the Marvel films route and have the majority of aliens be very human-like in appearance. Then CGI over the objects Hal uses.
And then you get street-meta-alien.
You're right! I didn't notice.
Rafa=FedKilla
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The Elongated Man. 
brotkasten
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That was a pretty good episode. Wells was great as always. He's so fun to watch and easily the best part of the show right now.
Should be interesting to see what he's up to.
Should be interesting to see what he's up to.
unholyrevenger72
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I'm sorry but Doctor Who's effects are as hoakee as Roy's unnecessary flips.
11th Dictor had decent effects and 12th are pretty good so far. Everything beforehand was very laughable though.
call_kotaku
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I imagine Who has more budget per episode than any of the superhero shows on US TV, and even then a lot of the setpieces and settings for it just scream "lower production costs". I was doubtful that a show with an actual superhero that needed FX for every action scene would be feasible, but I think Flash just manages to scrape by even with a ton of grimey-looking CG. I'm not convinced a Green Lantern show would be feasible, though, especially since the effects for his powers looked like shit even on a multi-million dollar summer blockbuster.
More_Badass
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So what other ways can Flash's powers develop? Am I the only one feels they're kind of rushing through the extent of powers pretty quickly?
We're not even halfway through season 1 and he's already running on water, up buildings, and going faster than sound
Let's see: phasing through objects, time traveling, continually increasing his speed/going faster than light
Anything else? I'm happy they aren't stretching this out like on Smallville, but still, hope they don't go through all the cool applications of his powers in one season.
I must say, I'm enjoying this show so much more than Arrow. Really liked season 1 and 2 of Arrow, but season 3 just feels off. The Flash was just top notch from the pilot and hasn't slowed down (pun intended)
We're not even halfway through season 1 and he's already running on water, up buildings, and going faster than sound
Let's see: phasing through objects, time traveling, continually increasing his speed/going faster than light
Anything else? I'm happy they aren't stretching this out like on Smallville, but still, hope they don't go through all the cool applications of his powers in one season.
I must say, I'm enjoying this show so much more than Arrow. Really liked season 1 and 2 of Arrow, but season 3 just feels off. The Flash was just top notch from the pilot and hasn't slowed down (pun intended)
unholyrevenger72
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And then there's the fact that even a show called Green Lantern,
There's a LOT. Whirlwind arms, after-images, speed stealing (and lending), speed learning (people love the "read the whole library" feat), outracing death, speed force dimension & barriers & dump / banishment, getting locked out of time (stuck with everything frozen), bigger and bigger rescues, disassembling a car, building a building or bridge, falling out of plane, catching a plane, imparting energy to objects when phasing through them, speed force lightsabers (and speed force ninjas, see Savitar arc), speed force zen and ESP, thought-based precognition, dimensional travel on other vibrational planes, and more.
Don't worry there's decades of material to draw from.
His power is almost cartoon in nature, it'll take a very creative team with a good vision to get it right and unfortunately, some of the guys running Arrow and the Flash couldn't get Hal Jordan right on screen already.
In their defence, they did make it before a swathe of other movies probably better showed them how it could be done, or what kind of nuanced universe it could fit in to. I think they maybe have to take some artistic license to make it look better in the films. Maybe take a cue from Arrow, the cosmic marvel characters (so far) in the MCU and the likes of Man of Steel - thor doesn't have a crazy helmet, and his armour suits our modern sensibilities even though its essentially still armour and a cape. Superman and captain america are the same - they have the right look, but everything feels tangible, made with good materials. Oliver's suit was tweaked to be less Robin Hood and more shadowy vigilante. Reynolds' Lantern has aged horribly and looks awful now, and the actual plot was a mess. The actual manifesting of powers looked okay at the time, but they're dated now too, they were kind of over-emphasised and framed in shot to make the most of the 3D gimmick. Getting the powers to look right in a film would be tricky, so I have little faith of a small TV team doing it right. I'd love to be proved wrong though.
It'd be cool to see pre-ring Hal show up on one of these shows. Just a nod sort of thing.
Septimus Prime
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Your post got lost in the shuffle, but I think you nailed it: Wells is
Metron
-He has access to amazing technology from New Genesis.
-He can travel through time at will and see the future.
-His prerogative is to keep the timeline intact, which is why he wants to keep Barry alive (so he can stop Crisis on Infinite Earths) but doesn't sweat about unleashing Grodd.
-He has New God durability, which is why getting arc blasted by Blackout doesn't kill him.
-He can stand but usually doesn't.
-He can travel through time at will and see the future.
-His prerogative is to keep the timeline intact, which is why he wants to keep Barry alive (so he can stop Crisis on Infinite Earths) but doesn't sweat about unleashing Grodd.
-He has New God durability, which is why getting arc blasted by Blackout doesn't kill him.
-He can stand but usually doesn't.
I really, really think this is it.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Oh I missed that. ><
Spiritreaver
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How the hell does someone remove themselves from a timeline? SImply being in the present shouldn't be enough. How can a newspaper change, but not a person simply by in being the present? If he did other stuff to establish some kind of bullshit paradox comic malarky to do it, I'm already eyerolling.
EDIT: Sorry I'm a page behind, feel free to ignore this lol.
EDIT2: I like the idea that he just has a way to access information from the future.
EDIT: Sorry I'm a page behind, feel free to ignore this lol.
EDIT2: I like the idea that he just has a way to access information from the future.
Do you think they'd do
New Genesis / New God stuff? Because its part of the Arrowverse, I do wonder how far they'd delve in to stuff like that. Could it be a more grounded version of Metron perhaps?
bananafactory
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Hi just popping into this thread.
I know nothing about the show but the ads kind of looked meh. To be fair I felt the same about Arrow commercials and everyone loves that show.
Are you guys generally happy with it? What's the consensus on GAF?
I know nothing about the show but the ads kind of looked meh. To be fair I felt the same about Arrow commercials and everyone loves that show.
Are you guys generally happy with it? What's the consensus on GAF?
NotTheGuyYouKill
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He could simply be
a human time traveler, and that's it. No real special powers or anything (assuming he isn't Reverse Flash) but committed to trying to keep the timeline intact. Gideon is just his AI, but beyond that, we don't delve into crazy cosmic stuff. Maybe he causes Eddie to become Reverse-Flash and fucks the timeline up further.
I think we have to be careful of all the timey-wimey stuff. Like... Wells' (or Reverse Flash's) timeline is straight, as is Barry's, but they intersect outside of linear time?
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Love it
Septimus Prime
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Honestly, I do. If nothing else, they could keep it in their back pocket. And even if they don't,
Metron is probably the easiest New God to bring on without even treading into that territory, since he's usually disassociated with everything regarding that.
Metron could show us that as strong as they are, there's still a tier above them
it's quite good, better than the first season of Arrow so far.
considering how good Arrow became as it went into Season 2, i have high hopes for the way this will develop.
the pilot is totally worth your time to see if it's something you'd like.
Cornballer
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Turns out that Morena Baccarin does the voice work for the computer at S.T.A.R. Labs. I didn't know she did a lot voice acting.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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It's great.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Sexiest computer AI ever.
That is Wells doing. He is rushing the Flash to his "peak" for whatever reason.
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I don't know anything about the Flash and I went into this show not expecting much but I really love it, every episode is great.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Flash is eventually gonna cause a time boom.
And then we're gonna get Grimdark Green Arrow doing this shit to Reverse Flash:
That'll be fucking baller as fuck.
And then we're gonna get Grimdark Green Arrow doing this shit to Reverse Flash:
That'll be fucking baller as fuck.
Maddocks
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Doctor Who has a lower budget then most US based tv shows. Superhero shows are going to have a higher budget then regular tv shows. So flash and arrow are above Who when it comes to budget.
CreeperBlocks
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Also.
The Mid Season Finale is Called
The Man in the Yellow suit. so i'm guessing things are gonna get interesting after the Crossover.
PHOENIXZERO
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The biggest issue with CG on television isn't just budget, it's time... Budget of course plays into since a TV show can't hire feature film size crew to focus on VFX but at the same time movies also generally have A LOT more time to work on perfecting those effects to the best of their abilities where as on TV they they have like a week or two (I imagine if lucky) when it comes to a series that does 22/23 episodes a year. If they did 12/13 episodes a year with the same budget as a full season it'd probably look a lot better, hell it'd probably help with the writing and acting some too if it allowed them significantly more time to actually shoot.
Also, just saw this, don't recall seeing it posted before.
http://www.fxguide.com/featured/fabricating-the-flash/
Yeah, most likely unless it changed and the crisis ended another way which it shouldn't
IIRC, Marc Guggenheim and Greg Berlanti had little to do with the end product of Green Lantern though, they just came up with the initial story and screenplay before the brain trust at WB's Film division made a mess of it. Don't think they played a role in the direction it took.
It's fun, but it's not without its flaws, some being very noticeable many of which are the result of standard CW trappings and the better you are at looking past them the more the better you'll be. There's some shoddy writing/dialog and acting but again I think it should be expected, the show like Arrow will never be nominated for an Emmy for writing or acting, as long as expectations are kept in check the Flash and Arrow are probably the most fun shows on TV though Arrow so far has been a bit of a drag since its in rebuilding mode.
Also, just saw this, don't recall seeing it posted before.
http://www.fxguide.com/featured/fabricating-the-flash/
Yeah, most likely unless it changed and the crisis ended another way which it shouldn't
IIRC, Marc Guggenheim and Greg Berlanti had little to do with the end product of Green Lantern though, they just came up with the initial story and screenplay before the brain trust at WB's Film division made a mess of it. Don't think they played a role in the direction it took.
It's fun, but it's not without its flaws, some being very noticeable many of which are the result of standard CW trappings and the better you are at looking past them the more the better you'll be. There's some shoddy writing/dialog and acting but again I think it should be expected, the show like Arrow will never be nominated for an Emmy for writing or acting, as long as expectations are kept in check the Flash and Arrow are probably the most fun shows on TV though Arrow so far has been a bit of a drag since its in rebuilding mode.
If you're expecting award winning acting and a quality script you're going to be disappointed.
Flash (And Arrow) is just dumb fun.
Suspend disbelief, don't take everything seriously and you're going to enjoy it.
call_kotaku
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It has a lower budget per episode even though it has half as many of them every season? I'm surprised.
I suppose the other BBC productions don't get that Top Gear production money
Poodlestrike
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Holy Mary, mother of fuck.
This would be... would they actually do it? Introduce
the New Gods?
Whoa. Now I'm gonna be disappointed if this doesn't happen.
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