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Judging from that article Starling city was never rebranded into Star City, which means Ray fucked up.

I really hope Oliver eventually retakes the company. The biggest difference between the shows is Ollie's personal life had always been in shambles. I still enjoy arrow but it'd be nice if they took a break from the melodrama for a bit and let Ollie have some real success.
 
I really hope Oliver eventually retakes the company. The biggest difference between the shows is Ollie's personal life had always been in shambles. I still enjoy arrow but it'd be nice if they took a break from the melodrama for a bit and let Ollie have some real success.
Yes. Especially since Green Arrow traditionally has done a lot more with his real-life persona than Batman did, It would be good to see him help Starling at Day as CEO and save it at night as Arrow.
But for that he needs to regain his will to live as a human. For now it seems there's just Arrow there, Oliver has pretty much dissapeared. He really needs some tips from Barry on how to be happy whole being a superhero :D
 
Yet another good episode.

I thought it was pretty interesting that while the future changed with regards to Barry/Flash, the red skies incident remained unchanged.

Wells story took another twist this week. I thought there was some merit to the idea that he was the future
version of Reverse Flash/Zoom
but this episode initially led me believe that might not be the case, but then he dropped that Flash is his most important invention bomb, which is something I'd expect
Reverse Flash/Zoom
would say.

But then wouldn't he cease to exist the moment the future changed? This is why I hate time travel sometimes...

VotW wasn't great, but still decent enough.

Fuck yeah, Iris, I genuinely cheered when she took down Tockman. Very pleased that they are making an effort to show she's not just a damsel in distress who constantly needs saving.

Barry connecting with his powers. That was a speed-force tease right?
 
Episode was awesome. I was delighted to get so much Dr Wells. The introduction of Gideon is pretty intriguing as well. The show writers seem to know how to keep us guessing.

I really hope Oliver eventually retakes the company. The biggest difference between the shows is Ollie's personal life had always been in shambles. I still enjoy arrow but it'd be nice if they took a break from the melodrama for a bit and let Ollie have some real success.

Topic for the other thread I guess - but one of the things that irked me about Felicity getting so cosy with Palmer in the last episode, is that she and Diggle expressly promise Oliver at the end of Season 2 that they'll help him get his company back.

Things with Palmer are moving along at a decent enough speed though, once he's got his white dwarf fragment he may actually make the leap from Arrow to Flash (or his own show).

I'm wondering if they'll show him doing the experiments with the material before something happens causing him to try it on himself, or if they'll just leap straight in to it as though Palmer is trying to create it from the off. Based on his vision for Star City, I think it'd make more sense if his prime motivation for harnessing the technology was something to do with efficiency / technology. We haven't yet seen him react to his discoveries of the Argus weapons have we?
 
He wouldn;t if he was still in the past (our present) only future would change.

So the future changing would only impact the new future? The one where Wells travelled back would remain unaffected or is his coming back like Kyle Reese in Terminator where it's paradox type situation and has to happen in order for Flash for exist?

I'm terrible when it comes to time travel. I still cant make any sense of Primer, even though I've watched it like four times...
 
So the future changing would only impact the new future? The one where Wells travelled back would remain unaffected or is his coming back like Kyle Reese in Terminator where it's paradox type situation and has to happen in order for Flash for exist?

I'm terrible when it comes to time travel. I still cant make any sense of Primer, even though I've watched it like four times...

We're assuming Wells has COME from the future, rather than simply operating with future knowledge. I believe that assumption is probably right though. It's probably just functioning like this:

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with the future newspaper as this:

 
So the future changing would only impact the new future? The one where Wells travelled back would remain unaffected or is his coming back like Kyle Reese in Terminator where it's paradox type situation and has to happen in order for Flash for exist?

Myguess is that the new future overwrites the old future. Wells can just escape it because he removed himself from future timestream.
 
We're assuming Wells has COME from the future, rather than simply operating with future knowledge. I believe that assumption is probably right though. It's probably just functioning like this:

His secret room is clearly using tech way beyond where the arrowverse is at, he's from the future.
 
I know doesn't need to be discussed here, since at this point, it's more when season 2 will be announced and not if there will be a season 2.

But I have to say surprised at just how well The Flash ratings have held up throughout the first half of this season.

Like it started huge for the CW, and assumed it would settle down into more traditional CW numbers, but it continues to do far and away better than any other show on the network by a large margin.
 
I know doesn't need to be discussed here, since at this point, it's more when season 2 will be announced and not if there will be a season 2.

But I have to say surprised at just how well The Flash ratings have held up throughout the first half of this season.

Like it started huge for the CW, and assumed it would settle down into more traditional CW numbers, but it continues to do far and away better than any other show on the network by a large margin.
Well, it's an enjoyable show with amazing effects for a tv-series. No, not even that. It's an enjoyable show with amazing effects. It's not needlessly complicated or edgy. It's straight forward, knows what it is and works the best with it.
 
This show is fantastic.

This and Agents of Shield keep me going each week. Arrow has let me down this season.
 
Yet another good episode.

I thought it was pretty interesting that while the future changed with regards to Barry/Flash, the red skies incident remained unchanged.

Wells story took another twist this week. I thought there was some merit to the idea that he was the future
version of Reverse Flash/Zoom
but this episode initially led me believe that might not be the case, but then he dropped that Flash is his most important invention bomb, which is something I'd expect
Reverse Flash/Zoom
would say.

But then wouldn't he cease to exist the moment the future changed? This is why I hate time travel sometimes...

VotW wasn't great, but still decent enough.

Fuck yeah, Iris, I genuinely cheered when she took down Tockman. Very pleased that they are making an effort to show she's not just a damsel in distress who constantly needs saving.

Barry connecting with his powers. That was a speed-force tease right?

It did change in one shot, but then it changed back in the next while everything else stayed the same. I think it was a continuity error.
 
I know doesn't need to be discussed here, since at this point, it's more when season 2 will be announced and not if there will be a season 2.

But I have to say surprised at just how well The Flash ratings have held up throughout the first half of this season.

Like it started huge for the CW, and assumed it would settle down into more traditional CW numbers, but it continues to do far and away better than any other show on the network by a large margin.

it's doing that well? rad! got any links where i can see numbers?

This show is fantastic.

This and Agents of Shield keep me going each week. Arrow has let me down this season.

have you seen the latest episode of Arrow? i thought it was a real return to form after 6 mediocre eps.
 
We're assuming Wells has COME from the future, rather than simply operating with future knowledge. I believe that assumption is probably right though. It's probably just functioning like this:

with the future newspaper as this:

Thanks for the explanation, but I definitely think we've seen enough with his future room and that AI to confirm he's from the future.

Myguess is that the new future overwrites the old future. Wells can just escape it because he removed himself from future timestream.

Okay, this makes a lot of sense and seems like something he'd do to make sure any changes don't negatively affect him.
 
Thanks for the explanation, but I definitely think we've seen enough with his future room and that AI to confirm he's from the future.



Okay, this makes a lot of sense and seems like something he'd do to make sure any changes don't negatively affect him.
This is pretty much what I guessed earlier:

I've got to wonder that given Wells' desire to protect Barry that if he is from the future (and I'm still unsure about that) then maybe he's Barry Allen's descendent. And being in the present where the timeline diverges may protect him from any changes in the future. Then again maybe he needs to protect him for a nefarious, rather than selfless, purpose.

But I imagine they'll throw all sorts of curve balls down the line.
 
So, it seems like the general idea for the Arrowverse shows is that Arrow gets all the gritty vigilante stuff and Flash gets all the four-color Metahuman zaniness. So, given that, what sort of Metahuman villains would everyone be most excited to see?

Out of Flash's people, I'd really like to see what they'll do with Mirror Master, but would also like to see some stuff not normally in Barry's wheelhouse. You know who would be fun to make a season-long big bad? Vandal Savage.

Also, while we're getting super comicbooky all up in Flash, can I get some Cadmus in Central City, please? When they escalate in future seasons, I want them to go the full Jack Kirby: Cadmus, Fourth World, the whole lot. They won't. But I still want them to.
 
So, it seems like the general idea for the Arrowverse shows is that Arrow gets all the gritty vigilante stuff and Flash gets all the four-color Metahuman zaniness. So, given that, what sort of Metahuman villains would everyone be most excited to see?

Out of Flash's people, I'd really like to see what they'll do with Mirror Master, but would also like to see some stuff not normally in Barry's wheelhouse. You know who would be fun to make a season-long big bad? Vandal Savage.

Also, while we're getting super comicbooky all up in Flash, can I get some Cadmus in Central City, please? When they escalate in future seasons, I want them to go the full Jack Kirby: Cadmus, Fourth World, the whole lot. They won't. But I still want them to.

I want to see Cheetah.

Not quite as fast as The Flash, but a better fighter and with claws. Would make for a great episode to have Flash versus someone who's fast AND can track him with ease.
 
The ratings continue to be amazing for this show. It steady as fuck with 1.4 demo rating on average on a week to week basis.

CW most watched shows are The Flash, Arrow and Supernatural. Two of those are DC properties, time to rebrand the channel to DC entertainment!
 
The ratings continue to be amazing for this show. It steady as fuck with 1.4 demo rating on average on a week to week basis.

CW most watched shows are The Flash, Arrow and Supernatural. Two of those are DC properties, time to rebrand the channel to DC entertainment!

At this point it's pretty much a sure thing that 3rd superhero show is coming, propably to premier in fall 2015. I wonder what they will pick.
 
I'm calling it now, I'm gonna have a headache once when finally know how and why Reverse Flash is here.
The Flash is MIA in the future. Reverse Flash/Eddie used his powers to come back just to fuck with him in the past and Wells came back using future scientific advancements (presumably) to prevent the Flash from disappearing in the first place. That's my take on it anyway.
 
(Posted in the supergirl thread but thought it should be shared here as well)

Later in the afternoon at his other office on the Warner Bros. lot, Berlanti meets with fellow producer Ali Adler and Oscar-winning costume designer Colleen Atwood to go over looks for their upcoming revamp of Supergirl. The show will follow 24-year-old Kara Zor-El, Superman's cousin, and with a twist that that could melt fanboy brains, Berlanti says it's possible this Supergirl could enter the worlds of Arrow and The Flash.

http://www.ksitetv.com/supergirl/su...-exist-in-the-same-world-as-arrow-flash/48575
 
At this point it's pretty much a sure thing that 3rd superhero show is coming, propably to premier in fall 2015. I wonder what they will pick.

Given Waller's active presence on Arrow, it seems likely that Suicide Squad will be show #3.

If they want an Arrowverse version of the trinity, they could give Zatana her own show. I would watch the crap out of that.
 
Loved cocky Barry/Flash at the beginning.
Fake Colossus Redemption
Glad Iris saved herself.
Glad Iris wasn't mad at Flash for not saving her.

I want to watch the crossover promo but I don't want to spoil it if it's as awesome as everyone says.
 
I really hope that they remove the introduction. I am Barry Allen blah blah. We know already. Remove it from Arrow too.

Nice development in this episode. Can´t wait for next week.
 
Eh, it's kinda an iconic Flash statement.

It's also a Geoff Johns trope. For example every issue of Green Lantern that he wrote began with a Hal Jordan monologue catching the reader up and would always include "My name is Hal Jordan and I'm Green Lantern."
 
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