Steam "Exploration Sale" -- i.e. Autumn Sale -- now live (November 26 - December 2)

No community choice or flash sales :/

What a bummer, I wasn't expecting any summer sale shenanigans like the red team/blue team stuff but they could have at least included flash sales.

What a boring sale.
 
How does Shadowrun Returns and Shadowrun Dragonfall work together? The store page says Dragonfall is a separate campaign, so its not an 'expansion' per se? Does Dragonfall - Directors Cut include the original Returns campaign? If I've never played either Returns or Dragonfall, do I need to buy both?
 
So many games, so few time...

Yeah, i've been wondering about this for a while, i have more than 400 games on steam, and i've played maybe 1/4 of them.

@Inertia: The director's cut doesn't include the original campaign. It is stand alone, so you have to buy both returns and dragonfall dc in order to play both campaigns
 
How does Shadowrun Returns and Shadowrun Dragonfall work together? The store page says Dragonfall is a separate campaign, so its not an 'expansion' per se? Does Dragonfall - Directors Cut include the original Returns campaign? If I've never played either Returns or Dragonfall, do I need to buy both?

Dragonfall is an expansion that has been made standalone and is considered widely the best of the two. It doesn't include the original campaign.
 
How does Shadowrun Returns and Shadowrun Dragonfall work together? The store page says Dragonfall is a separate campaign, so its not an 'expansion' per se? Does Dragonfall - Directors Cut include the original Returns campaign? If I've never played either Returns or Dragonfall, do I need to buy both?

Dragonfall was originally a DLC for SR, but was later released as a standalone expansion. Dragonfall is not available for purchase as DLC for SR anymore, and the original SR campaign is not included in DF. TLDR if you want both campaigns, you'll have to buy both SR and SR:DF.
 
Alright cool thanks guys, I think I'll just buy Returns for now and hope Dragonfall gets a deeper discount either in this sale or the bigger winter one.
 
For noobs: The Summer Sale and Winter Sale are the best possible options (broadest amount of stuff on sale, deepest discounts). Discounts get bigger the longer a game has been out, so if you don't think you're going to play something between now and the next sale, wait for the next sale (unless it's a licensed title or something that's probably going to be pulled). It's incredibly rare that anything gets a "best ever" sale unless it's a pricing error, so generally if you see a sale and are thinking about waiting, wait.

I know all of this seems like a buzzkill to someone who's knew to Steam and wants to build a library, but it's true. At some point you'll look at your backlog and say "wow, I dramatically overspent on all this stuff I haven't played".

Obviously if you want to buy something for any price, buy it. You're not an idiot for doing so. But the strategy that minimizes your chance of regretting a decision you made is to wait.

Ah, this is great, thanks. I've got Bit.Trip Complete coming for the Wii for Christmas, so do I buy Runner2 at 92% off to complete the collection or wait because I'll have more than enough Bit.Trip? :-)
 
How does Shadowrun Returns and Shadowrun Dragonfall work together? The store page says Dragonfall is a separate campaign, so its not an 'expansion' per se? Does Dragonfall - Directors Cut include the original Returns campaign? If I've never played either Returns or Dragonfall, do I need to buy both?

I would probably skip Shadowrun Returns and just get Dragonfall. I Liked both but Dragonfall was a much more polished experience. It has a nice party system with great characters, and it has a sense of permanency unlike the first campaign which feels very linear and transitory in nature. Dragonfall reminds me more of the original Shadowrun.
 
See, this is why we need the SalsaShark gifs. DON'T BUY. WAIT FOR THE DAILY DEALS YOU BASTARDS.

HAAAA. But I seriously doubt Defense Grid 2 will be part of the daily deals since it was just released in September. 50% off is already pretty great under these circumstances.
 
What do you think the probability of Lords of the Fallen going cheaper over Christmas is?

It's probably very unlikely that any of the games featured on dailies now will get cheaper in the Winter sale. Though we don't know what policies Valve has in place for the Autumn and Winter sales this year: last year an email leak revealed that the discounts across the Autumn and Winter sales would be the same. We don't know if that applies this year or not.
 
I would probably skip Shadowrun Returns and just get Dragonfall. I Liked both but Dragonfall was a much more polished experience. It has a nice party system with great characters, and it has a sense of permanency unlike the first campaign which feels very linear and transitory in nature. Dragonfall reminds me more of the original Shadowrun.

Really, Returns isn't worth playing? It seemed to get great impressions when it was released, and I never played the original Shadowrun so I would have no nostalgia for it.
 
Really, Returns isn't worth playing? It seemed to get great impressions when it was released, and I never played the original Shadowrun so I would have no nostalgia for it.

The original Returns is decent to good. Dragonfall is much better.
 
It's probably very unlikely that any of the games featured on dailies now will get cheaper in the Winter sale. Though we don't know what policies Valve has in place for the Autumn and Winter sales this year: last year an email leak revealed that the discounts across the Autumn and Winter sales would be the same. We don't know if that applies this year or not.

Are the same games also always on sale both times? Can a game that's on sale now, not be on sale during the winter sale? I imagine that's unlikely, but someone might go "derp should have picked it up in the Autumn sale" otherwise.

That said, games do go on sale again at some point, so it always depends on how soon you want to play it.
 
Really, Returns isn't worth playing? It seemed to get great impressions when it was released, and I never played the original Shadowrun so I would have no nostalgia for it.

Return is definitely worth playing if you can get both. It still has great writing, and an interesting story. The main differences between the two campaigns are the flow of missions and party composition. Returns flow is mission => to safe house => next mission with a character NPC usually tagging along and the party being fleshed out with generic hirelings. Dragonfall's flow is mission => town => choice of missions you are free to take in any order, most offering an interesting self-contained story => town => story mission when you are ready. Additionally, you have a well written party of characters that you develop and decide who to take on each mission. As a result I enjoyed Dragonfall more.
 
What do you think the probability of Lords of the Fallen going cheaper over Christmas is?

It's pretty uncommon for winter games to go cheaper then black friday prices, but it has happened. Unless you are planning to play it immediately you may as well wait.
 
Are the same games also always on sale both times? Can a game that's on sale now, not be on sale during the winter sale? I imagine that's unlikely, but someone might go "derp should have picked it up in the Autumn sale" otherwise.

It's possible, but very unlikely. What will happen for sure is that a select number of games that didn't got featured in dailies now will be dailies in the Winter sale, since the Winter sale runs for two weeks, and the Autumn sale for one week.
 
I like the presentation for this sale a lot. Makes it hard to resist for a few items on my wishlist which are already deeply discounted.
 
It's probably very unlikely that any of the games featured on dailies now will get cheaper in the Winter sale. Though we don't know what policies Valve has in place for the Autumn and Winter sales this year: last year an email leak revealed that the discounts across the Autumn and Winter sales would be the same. We don't know if that applies this year or not.

It's pretty uncommon for winter games to go cheaper then black friday prices, but it has happened. Unless you are planning to play it immediately you may as well wait.

Fair enough. I'm loaded with games, at some point over christmas I'll finally get a week or something to actually play some of these things.
 
Should I get the Batman games right now or wait for it to be discounted? (AC and AA GOTY is $7.99, Origins is $9.99)
 
I don't normally *ever* do this, but I'm going to have to whistleblow something here:

Running With Rifle's current sale price in this sale is a complete fake. Literally a day ago, just before this sale, it's regular price was $10, but for the sale today it was raised to $15 and is now "On sale" for $10.

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Source: https://www.steamprices.com/us/app/270150/running-with-rifles

I don't know what anyone else thinks, but that's quite scummy to take advantage of the "On Sale" effect without being a genuine sale compared to the normal price.

EDIT:

Now:
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Nov 12th:
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So it would seem likely that we'll get Shadows of Mordor at $25 or less right? They're already skimming at the price at target I think it was for consoles.
 
I almost have enough in my steam wallet to buy the lifeline dlc for state of decay so either I'm gonna sell some cards or wait to see if it gets discounted further
 
Oh shit dog! My entire wishlist is on sale. Now give me the dailies Gaben. They aren't quite low enough where I might wait till winter sale if they don't have dailies
 
Just installed Gray Matter its basically free lol, I have a point and click itch that has not been scratched since Broken Sword 1,2,3 ... yep pretty much it, but awesome games.
 
Running With Rifle's current sale price in this sale is a complete fake. Literally a day ago, just before this sale, it's regular price was $10, but for the sale today it was raised to $15 and is now "On sale" for $10.

That's really dumb. Must have learn this strategy from Sears Canada.
 
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