CM Punk tells all about walking out of WWE (podcast)

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"I politely turned to Hunter and I said, 'With all due respect, I do not need to wrestle you. You need to wrestle me. I do not want to wrestle you. I seriously resent you for not putting me over three years ago when you should have. That would have been best for business. But, you had to come in and squash it. And then I had to lose to Truth and Miz. It didn't make any business sense and now I'm in the position where I can tell you I don't have to nor do I want to wrestle you at WrestleMania. I don't care if I was supposed to win - which I was - I didn't want to give him the f------ privilege.

Honestly, that was the truth.
 
That was the day he was mad enough and fed up enough to quit. Why wouldn't you think he said that?



This is the best part. This is what he says he said to HHH and Vince the night he walked out.

At least you know exactly what HHH was thinking during his match with Daniel Bryan that ended with Bryan beating him clean as a whistle.
 
I can't believe they actually intended to go with Batista vs Orton for the main event of Wrestlemania. That is insane. HHH had said to Foley to not judge a book before seeing the ending. He made it sound like they planned all along for Bryan to main event and this was just a story they were doing. Was that all bullshit?
 
I can't believe they actually intended to go with Batista vs Orton for the main event of Wrestlemania. That is insane. HHH had said to Foley to not judge a book before seeing the ending. He made it sound like they planned all along for Bryan to main event and this was just a story they were doing. Was that all bullshit?
Of course it was.
 
Thinking about it, even Brodus and Albert were better than fucking Ryback. Yet ones on commentary and the other let go.
 
I can't believe they actually intended to go with Batista vs Orton for the main event of Wrestlemania. That is insane. HHH had said to Foley to not judge a book before seeing the ending. He made it sound like they planned all along for Bryan to main event and this was just a story they were doing. Was that all bullshit?

You'll find out on March 29 when the main event turns out to be equally shit, when there's no intervention.
 
Continuing to gain respect for Batista. Jericho told that story about Batista paying everyone's fines for that time he bladed against Vince's wishes, on top of a massive fine he got himself, and Punk says now that Batista knew the fans wouldn't accept him as a babyface taking the spot Bryan deserved and was against it. Which Batista said himself on Jericho's podcast, that he knew it was a mistake.
 
Continuing to gain respect for Batista. Jericho told that story about Batista paying everyone's fines for that time he bladed against Vince's wishes, on top of a massive fine he got himself, and Punk says now that Batista knew the fans wouldn't accept him as a babyface taking the spot Bryan deserved and was against it. Which Batista said himself on Jericho's podcast, that he knew it was a mistake.

Batista got CM Punk'd back in the day too.

Batista wanted the Blade 3 role to get a foot in the door of Hollywood, and WWE said no and then Triple H got the role.
 
Batista got CM Punk'd back in the day too.

Batista wanted the Blade 3 role to get a foot in the door of Hollywood, and WWE said no and then Triple H got the role.

I dunno if that would have been a good idea. Can you imagine Batista yelling "SINCE WHEN DID YOU SEE MY DICK?!"

Well wait, yeah he woulda been great.
 
Batista got CM Punk'd back in the day too.

Batista wanted the Blade 3 role to get a foot in the door of Hollywood, and WWE said no and then Triple H got the role.

Blade 3?! I thought that was The Chaperone. Can't honestly imagine Batista in either role.
 
Even though this happened to Punk he did change the main event of WM30 with Bryan getting in the main event and even said he's happy for him in the podcast. He wanted to see change because he loved the product. He grew up on it and was his life. He wanted to help up and comers with his popularity because he understands how hard it is to get there especially now. People can feel how they wish about punk but the guys passion for the sport is strong and it's a shame he got drove away from what he's loved all his life because of how fucking stupid it's gotten in the back politics.
 
Look how far back he's standing before the throw. I wondered if Ryback was a dangerous worker, because he looks sloppy as hell, and his conditioning was awful at the start. Gassing on power moves is a recipe for injury.

Anyways I can't listen to the podcast. Is there a transcript on the website? I'd love to read it. Also, firing someone on their wedding day is incredibly cruel. This isn't some random low level employee upper management doesn't know either. They knew he was getting married. They did it out of spite. That's simply not right. But I'm glad he got out and I hope he can enjoy life and health the rest of the way. He's talented enough he can find on air work in another field. PEACE.

major points
 
I liked the interview.

The most eye-opening thing of it all seemed like Punk was intending/expecting to come back, and seemed like the WWE was just like... nope, we can't do that.

I'm sure there's a bit more to the story, but it did sound like they stone-walled him after missing Mania.

Also, poor Triple H.

And never noticed how much of a jobber to part-timers he was losing to Rock, Taker and Brock at all the major PPVs in 2013.
 
I liked this exchange

<Vince> It's going to be you and Brock at Summerslam

<Punk> Great! Who's going over?

<Vince> uh....Brock.

<Punk> Great! Who's going to show up for work on Monday?

<Vince> ...*silence*...
 
Stuff like this is why I honestly believe Vince should sell the company. The company is being ran into the ground and they are not doing anything to fix it at all. A huge part of it is Vince's ego won't allow for the changes that need to be made.
 
Not just that, he probably fills half the arenas on his own.

Let's not be absurd. No one guy is a draw in WWE anymore, the WWE brand draws. Same with WM, the WM brand draws, not the matches.
If what you said was true, there would be a massive drop in attendance when Cena is not on a show, but there isn't any drop.
 
Cesaro just retweeted the podcast. Somebody gonna get their ass kicked.

Perhaps some other WWE employees will as well.

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Stuff like this is why I honestly believe Vince should sell the company. The company is being ran into the ground and they are not doing anything to fix it at all. A huge part of it is Vince's ego won't allow for the changes that need to be made.
Well it's a public company, Vince can't "sell it". He can sell his majority shares that give him control.
 
He might. Or they might realize that these numbers are an anomaly and not give him the ad rate he's asking for. Or he might simply be locked into those sponsorship deals he's already got and he has to wait til they run out. Again - I don't really know exactly how the man's monetized his show. But a lot of people who put ads on podcasts tend to do it on an "I'll pay you upfront, and then you have to run my stuff until such and such date or such and such clickthru number is met"

If anything, depending on how he distributes this thing - Punk being on his show might actually be costing him money. Bandwidth overages with some providers can be a real motherfucker.

They're only an anomaly if WWE doesn't strike while the iron is hot, ride it for a few years, then build the next mega star by having their existing stars give the next stars a rub.

That's the problem - A wrestling company with weekly television shouldn't have the same face for a decade. That kind of booking worked before the 90s with guys like Backlund, Hogan, and Sammartino. You could have the same top guy for a decade but fans would only see them once or twice a year when they were in town, so they wouldn't get burned out.

Now? Guys are in 4 or 5 different cities each week, and on TV+PPV 5 or 6 times a month, at least. You can't have the same people doing the same things for years, that's just going to burn fans out.

Fans didn't get burned out on CM Punk because in his 3.5ish year reign at the top, he went from a heel, to a face, to a heel. He went from leading the Nexus, to being on his own, to teaming up with Paul Heyman, to going alone again.

Same thing happened during the Attitude Era, even with Austin. Remember the Power Trip?
 
In a way it's probably too bad that the WWE is struggling so much of late because it basically means pro wresting is struggling as a product. If it were doing better, we might get an opportunity where some independent investors try and start up their own promotion, and lure away some of the bigger names that are fed up with Vince and co., sort of a repeat of what Turner did in the 90s. As it stands now, which how much WWE is struggling why would anyone want anything to do with this product?
 
Let's not be absurd. No one guy is a draw in WWE anymore, the WWE brand draws. Same with WM, the WM brand draws, not the matches.
If what you said was true, there would be a massive drop in attendance when Cena is not on a show, but there isn't any drop.

Then why do they offer refunds when Cena no-shows?
 
Then why do they offer refunds when Cena no-shows?

Because that's company policy whenever an advertised major star isn't at the show. You're missing the significant part where people don't ever take the refunds.
They made the same refund offer for Punk, Orton and Bryan when they were not at shows they were advertised at.
 
Perhaps some other WWE employees will as well.

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Leave it to these carny motherfuckers to blow the angle just as soon as the wheels start turning again.

A lot of holes in the plot already. Wouldn't be surprised if Phil calls for a complete reset and lets the angle go dormant.
 
I hate Cena the character, but respect Cena the man and worker. He works his ass off, love him or hate him. He's had a lot of injuries already, performs through many of them, and his body is clearly ballooned on steroids. I'm curious to see how hr ages. Maybe he doesn't party like most other wrestlers and it'll keep his condition from falling off a cliff. PEACE.

Cena doesn't party - He has no life outside of WWE. He eats, drinks, sleeps, shits, and breathes WWE.

When he was filming some of his movies, here is more or less how his Monday was (2 hour RAWs back then)

3:00 AM - Wake up.
5:00 AM - Filming starts
12:00 PM - Filming stops,
12:00 PM - 5:00 PM - Make a Wish work (includes air travel)
5:00 PM - 8:00 PM - Plane to WWE event location and preparation
8:00 PM - 10:30 PM - RAW + overrun

Then he'd get back on a plane and travel to the filming location, getting a few hours of sleep on the plane and in his hotel.

If he is booked to bury Wade Barrett under a pool of chairs, that's what he'll do. No questions asked. If he's told to fly to 3 or 4 different cities to wrestle, film movies, and do Make A Wish work, he'll do it. If his marriage and friendships outside of wrestling are weighed against being a WWE corporate slave, he'll choose WWE, always.
 
Because that's company policy whenever an advertised major star isn't at the show. You're missing the significant part where people don't ever take the refunds.
They made the same refund offer for Punk, Orton and Bryan when they were not at shows they were advertised at.

Did not know that. But still, if he's not the draw, why do they pimp him out so much on absolutely everything? Surely you'd want to diversify your output a bit.
 
In a way it's probably too bad that the WWE is struggling so much of late because it basically means pro wresting is struggling as a product. If it were doing better, we might get an opportunity where some independent investors try and start up their own promotion, and lure away some of the bigger names that are fed up with Vince and co., sort of a repeat of what Turner did in the 90s. As it stands now, which how much WWE is struggling why would anyone want anything to do with this product?

We've got Lucha Underground as a new promotion with backing, and NJPW is breaking into the US now (and they are secure because they make all their money back in Japan, this US incursion will solely be extra money for them if it succeeds).

Those are two far superior products to the WWE.
 
I can't fathom how the WWE thinks they can survive if the fuck over people like CM Punk. I grew up watching wrestling, and in recent years he was the only wrestler I'd check out the exploits of. I just can't get excited about the influx of Firstname Lastname spandex pants' the WWE has been hiring over the past half-decade or so.

Good luck to the WWE. There are some real idiots calling the shots there.
 
Did not know that. But still, if he's not the draw, why do they pimp him out so much on absolutely everything? Surely you'd want to diversify your output a bit.

Because he is their top star. But he sells merchandise, not ticket sales. WWE shows are sold on the WWE brand name now, not the top star. The house show tour with him on it does a little better than the other one, but nothing signifcant, and PPVs and the TV shows do nothing different with or without him.
The only thing that pops ratings now is old part time stars being advertised like the Rock, and even then, that fades if they're back for more than a month. Batista popped a huge rating when he was first back, but by the time he left he drew nothing.

WWE has completely stagnated in this regard.
 
I can't fathom how the WWE thinks they can survive if the fuck over people like CM Punk. I grew up watching wrestling, and in recent years he was the only wrestler I'd check out the exploits of. I just can't get excited about the influx of Firstname Lastname spandex pants' the WWE has been hiring over the past half-decade or so.

Good luck to the WWE. There are some real idiots calling the shots there.

IMO WWE is self-imploding. Their decision making, their behind the times attitude, burrying new guys not making new talent, over-reliant of older start. FUCK. This is just like WCW! :O
 
IMO WWE is self-imploding. Their decision making, their behind the times attitude, burrying new guys not making new talent, over-reliant of older start. FUCK. This is just like WCW! :O
They repackaged the entire company so that the bosses wife could run for Senate.
 
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