CM Punk seems like a dick by in large personality wise, but that doesn't come close to excusing the kind of shit that the WWE pulled with him.
CM Punk tells all about walking out of WWE (podcast)
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Punk, like a lot of these guys, has an ego and sometimes that can get the better of him. Still, a lot of what he's saying is stuff that we've heard before about the company. I didn't find any of what he had to say all that shocking.
As for Greg Miller, seems like a nice guy but I find he can be overbearing in interviews. I'm not sure what went on between the two though.
Perspicacity
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Are there any other mirrors? I can't get it on the Stitcher app, the Podcast app, the direct link or the Stitcher web link
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
He tapped him on the shoulder to try and strike up a conversation and CM Punk told him he wasn't a fucking animal, or something like that
I remember that. Something about Greg tapping his shoulder. Punk seems really uppity about manners, really odd.
He's an awesome interviewer. I'm talking about the opening/closing segments where he sounds like he's working late night shopping infomercials.
The One and Done
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Never found him remotely intersting in the ring or outside of it.
Masquerader
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Scarily true. Honestly, maybe I'm being paranoid, but I'd really hate for history to repeat itself. I actually feel sort of sorry for Cena. No matter what your opinion of him is, or whatever his motives are, he's trapped on so many fronts that it'd be career suicide if he tried to change any aspect of them. So he'll just have to go with the flow. Still though, like him or not, Cena seems to put a good amount of effort in a lot of the time. He's going to get hurt... Badly.
Still, WWE being fucked if he goes... Doesn't sound too bad to me, in my opinion. I'm sorry to say that while its talent doesn't deserve losing their jobs, it'd probably be best for the industry in the long run.
That's been Colt's thing since he started the podcast something like five years ago. I thought it was a pretty interesting way to do adverts on a podcast personally. Also, amusing to hear Lord Alfred Hayes during those.
As far as the whole Greg Miller incident goes, CM Punk has actually talked quite openly about his pet peeves with how people approach him in public. Unfortunately, Greg ended up doing one of the things that he hates the most in tapping him on the shoulder to get his attention. Punk goes pretty aggro for that kind of thing apparently.
As much as they would like you to keep thinking that, WWE is not the only game in town. If you're interested in watching Pro Wrestling, there are several places that are worth supporting. A lot of them have been mentioned in this very thread. Chikara, Evolve, New Japan Pro Wrestling, Ring of Honor, Global Force Wrestling (hopefully), and several local indies.
Technosteve
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he's making money
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The moment where I went into "what planet is this guy from" is when he was demanding he get paid same as Taker and Cena for Wrestlemania. You're not worth Takers legacy he built for 20 years, no matter how good of a match you put on.
As egotistical as he comes off during a few moments in the podcast, that hardly diminishes most of his points on how terribly that company is being run.
His complaint was that he works year round as a top guy, yet gets paid less than the other top stars at WM because.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Eephus. Colt's not making that much. He needs to look into another profession. His in ring career is also over.
DoktorEvil
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I'm not a fan of how much of a prick Punk is, but yeah it's no surprise that a business that travels from city to city putting on live shows would be anti-union and exploitive.
He isn't the first one to share how nasty the business is to talent either.
He isn't the first one to share how nasty the business is to talent either.
To be fair, the draw to that match was Taker, not Punk, so I get why WWE was reluctant to pay the same, despite how great the match was.
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He's not Cena, Lesnar, Taker. He's not worth as much as they are. He did all sorts of double talk in this interview. Tons of inconsistencies about his beliefs about what he's in the business for. Even the small things. "This isn't a shoot, I could make a lot of money with this but I'm coming to you since you're a friend and I feel safe." - my ass, you just helped Colt get paid instead. It is a shoot. He buried the shit out of dudes.
I think it gets more clear how he feels about that when he starts talking about how they said he was in the main event of WM29 because he had the best match and "should have gone on last".
DoktorEvil
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IIRC Lesner was slated to be a top guy the way Heyman pushed him.
Same with Taker and Cena. They got aggressive pushes.
Heyman DID push Punk to the WWE fans...
It's a bigger deal in this case because of who he is, and how recently removed he is from the business.
Guys are becoming less afraid to speak out after unfavorable departures, recently Del Rio and Ricardo Rodriguez. Very happy for those guys.
Wwe isn't paying guys big money and right now They cannibalized their product with comedy segments and the network.
Oh, yeah, I'm aware, and I do follow other promotions. I was just referring to the 'E specifically. (Though, even as pointed out in this interview, a lot of the issues that came up are not specific to the WWE and have always been a problem with the whole industry, like the "independent contractor" bullshit. Even ROH guys are on exclusive contracts now? What the fuck?)
Sir_Crocodile
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He mentions he was making more merch money then sina at one point. Dunno if he's just blowing smoke or if it's true though
Jeff Jarrett save us. Lol.
DoktorEvil
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I agree, even if he's not the most pleasant of people in the public eye.
I remember hearing horror stories from the Iron Sheik and from Kurt Angle.
In the end though, there are more choices now than before and better promotions I'd rather support than the WWE hype machine.
I should go see the ROH show next week.
divinedbullet
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Find it weird its brought to you by wwe 2k15
Farce
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bean breath
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Done.
The main thing your wrong about is he's not worth as much as lesner, cm punk is worth much more than him.
CreeperBlocks
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Yeah I'd love that. He would be an awesome Casey
He did for a couple of months in 2011. Jeff Hardy also did for like one month in 2009. I can't remember the exact numbers, but there were articles about them a year or so ago.
But angle and ithers that have spoken had huge drug issues and other stuff. Punk has none of that and he is way more well spoken than any wrestler.
Bobby Roberts
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I'm not entirely certain if Colt Cabana's got a different deal with his podcast than most who have monetized it - but you don't get more money if more people download a specific episode more than the others. His ads that he's running are likely ads he's already been paid for, and that money's likely been agreed upon based on both his name recognition and whatever download numbers he used to prove to them he's got reach.
But I doubt getting high downloads on this one podcast is going to get him "paid" as a response.
Also, he's not really a good interviewer. Most of his questions went like this.
"Now, like. I know, from when I was, like..."
(Punk interrupts and goes off on a 25 minute story)
"So, when I was like, in the fuckin' car, and we"
(Punk interrupts and goes off on a 32 minute story)
"Yeah, but dude, like, yunno, Jewish people"
(Punk laughs, goes off on a 17 minute story)
It was a great listen, absolutely, but he wasn't so much an interviewer as he was a prompt and an audience.
Sir_Crocodile
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The difference is those need wrestling. The Ric Flairs, the Hogans, etc. are nothing without wrestling. Those are also guys that were given the spotlight. Punk was and is a guy that would never get the one thing he wanted, main eventing WM.
Which is why I find it funny people say he'll go somewhere else or come back. He was ready to leave millions of dollars on the table because they refused to let him main event the biggest show in the industry. There's nothing any other company can offer him.
GeordieMark
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Yeah, I think that's important to remember. This is one side of the story. Of course CM Punk is going to be sympathetic to CM Punk.
It's not right to take everything he says as the gospel truth.
He's telling the truth there, his Summer of Punk in 2011 pushed him to the top merch spot for that year.
The funny thing about all of this, he will return eventually. Everyone always does.
If he was so upset over the termination papers on his wedding, AJ would have been too. Everything in the wrestling world is a setup/work. Even Ultimate Warrior, Sting and Bret Hart came back. It may take a decade, but he'll be back.
The podcast is sponsored by WWE2k15? That's hilarious
If he was so upset over the termination papers on his wedding, AJ would have been too. Everything in the wrestling world is a setup/work. Even Ultimate Warrior, Sting and Bret Hart came back. It may take a decade, but he'll be back.
The podcast is sponsored by WWE2k15? That's hilarious
FlammableD
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Which is fine really. People that know the two of them know they're friends, a formal interview would have been wierd. Besides, it's Punk's story to tell.
DoktorEvil
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When your traveling every other day and you have to perform constantly to a large audience and be 100% all the time, while WWE doctors are telling you to take drug cocktails instead of allowing for proper healing times, then I can only see it as a gateway into drug abuse.
This is a case where CM Punk's straight edge lifestyle plays into him looking at the business objectively and I appreciate that he does.
Bobby Roberts
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No doubt. If anything, it makes what Punk said about why he was doing it seem more authentic, to me. Because it absolutely SOUNDS like a thing where he's only talking because it's his friend, and they're talking like friends will bullshit.
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Anyone else not shocked that it was Kofi fucking Kingston who more or less cost us CM Punk. This careless buffoon hands out more potatoes than the state of Idaho with his flippy dippy bullshit and about the only thing we have to be thankful to Randy Orton for, is squashing his upper mid card - main event push from a few years back. To quote the man himself, "Stupid, stupid, STUPID!".
Hot Coldman
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Don't tap people you don't know on the shoulder, people. Christ.
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