I think it makes sense for Zaheer to help her out. For one, I never thought that Zaheer disliked Korra as a person, but because she was the avatar he had to kill her. He knows that he is going to be locked up for a while, so he could at least use Korra to advance his own goals until he can break free. I know we'll never see it animated, but there is no way Zaheer lives the rest of his life in that prison. He is too badass.
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Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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I think it's more like his plan backfired so hard that he did the exact opposite of create anarchy. In fact there's even less anarchy. So now he has to undo his screwup.
Was pretty good, outside of leaders' meeting. That was pretty crappy on Korra not being invited there, and it quite laughable that Wu was allowed there, even through he still coming out with stupid suggestions and not at the point to rule the kingdom. And where are the water tribe folks? Are waterbenders just not allow there and that why Korra wasn't invited lol?
JadedWriter
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I've been wondering the same thing since last season. I'm surprised he even wanted to go to war without Kuvira blowing up his office.
When was the last time a water tribe member did something good for the world? The avatar who brought so much evil into the world? Varrick? Unalaq? Amon? Tarrlok? Yakone?
vas_a_morir
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I dunno, they both seem to be set on undoing Zaheer's dirty work from last season. Zaheer definitely is ambitious, but Kuvira is totally depraved.
If there was a fifth book... I'd want Varrick to be a Andrew Ryan style Objectivist villain. It'd fit with the other villains being based on extreme philosophies (except Unaloq who was just a dick, or maybe a religious extremist if you're being generous. Fuck Unaloq)
Is a man not entitled to blow up his own building?
Is a man not entitled to blow up his own building?
m_shortpants
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I've found Opal really annoying this season. She's basically upset/whining in every scene she's in.
Yes, I understand you care for your mother, but she attempted to assassinate someone.
Yes, I understand you care for your mother, but she attempted to assassinate someone.
double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
was hoping korra was going to free
zaheer.
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Xpike
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Man the Opal and Bolin thing is really forced, we have never seen them actually do couples stuff. It's literally a plot device so Bolin has a reason to go on a secret mission.
Zaheer being all Hannibal is amazing, shame we probably won't ever see him again.
Raiko is a really bad president, invites Wu, someone that has been proven to be not the sharpest tool in the drawer, but not the Avatar or the Water Tribe Chief? And then just go "lol we don't care about the Earth Kingdom"? Without Korra or the Aitbenders this could've been the beginning of another 100 Year War.
Zaheer being all Hannibal is amazing, shame we probably won't ever see him again.
Raiko is a really bad president, invites Wu, someone that has been proven to be not the sharpest tool in the drawer, but not the Avatar or the Water Tribe Chief? And then just go "lol we don't care about the Earth Kingdom"? Without Korra or the Aitbenders this could've been the beginning of another 100 Year War.
attempted to assassinate a dictator that puts people into re-education camps...
Did that ever work out good in world history?
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Xpike
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He straight up gave Clarice who the murderer was.
Supermanisdead
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yes, attempted to assassinate a psychotic war criminal.
After he forced her to tell him about herself. He also used the opportunity of the case to escape. While Zaheer just gave it freely and apparently in remorse. I would've loved if he made an escape while Korra was coming to her terms in the spirit world.
coolfighter1993
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To be honest, I'm kinda disappointed in this season, I expected far more...
Every character (excluding Bolin and Kuvira) is weak and pathetic, while Bolin has to be the most awesome (but a bit OP) character in the show ever since he got Lava Bending.
Every character (excluding Bolin and Kuvira) is weak and pathetic, while Bolin has to be the most awesome (but a bit OP) character in the show ever since he got Lava Bending.
do you propose an alternative solution
Hahaha, good point.
A lot of the writing in this episode felt too "telling, not showing"
But I did enjoy the political gridlock of dealing with the Earth Empire. A pre-emptive strike, despite good intentions, would be wildly unpopular and work in Kuvira's favor. Being on the defense, however, seems like inaction despite the reasonable views of the Air and Fire nations.
But I did enjoy the political gridlock of dealing with the Earth Empire. A pre-emptive strike, despite good intentions, would be wildly unpopular and work in Kuvira's favor. Being on the defense, however, seems like inaction despite the reasonable views of the Air and Fire nations.
Give up Zaofu, retreat with loyal troops to Republic City. Seek help from everyone and try to gather the other ... lords(?) of the Earth Kingdom that are suppressed in secret, wage guerrilla war, get journalists to document the desperate fight of the suppressed people, show the camps to the public. Destroy her with media, since so far Kuvira has a pretty good name over all. Camps aside of course, but you get the idea.
Hearts and minds.
Thing is, if you manage to kill her, there are still others. There is still the infrastructure and the idea. You need to kill them.
Me too, I think it could have been cool.
I don't think that is what her PR needs right now.
"Guys, guys! I have Raava back!"
"Great. Zaheer is really useful behind bars. Good that we brought that slippery murder that wanted to send the world in chaos and almost killed you too in. My heart seriously wouldn't survive that again."
"Well, about that..."
"What?"
"I set him free."
"Are you shitting me, Avatar."
"Guys, guys! I have Raava back!"
"Great. Zaheer is really useful behind bars. Good that we brought that slippery murder that wanted to send the world in chaos and almost killed you too in. My heart seriously wouldn't survive that again."
"Well, about that..."
"What?"
"I set him free."
"Are you shitting me, Avatar."
victreeb3l
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Awesome episode. Man seeing Zaheer again was so cool. Bummy Zaheer > Meelo Zaheer.
Was hoping for some Toph action this episode but guess we will see it next week. Hoping for a nice little family reunion too.
Was hoping for some Toph action this episode but guess we will see it next week. Hoping for a nice little family reunion too.
I didn't mind Zaheer helping. After all, it was never personal between him and her, and his goal is to remove world leaders, especially bad ones. That's what Kuvira is, so it's in his interest to help. I wish we had gotten a line along the lines of him pointing out to Korra that one day he will go after her again, but other than that, it's within his character.
Exactly. Asami is one of the brightest minds in Republic city? Since fucking when? We see varrick creating shit and scheming and executing on his plans in every other scene he's in, so you can see it with him. Asami just stands around and reads engineering magazines. She hasn't created a single thing on screen in this series. It's a real slap in the face because Asami had all this potential, and varrick steals her entire lane.
The more I think about this episode, the weaker it gets.
Sokka
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She did make that makeshift airsurfer(?) in the desert.
And_Gignac
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This season has gotten really bad. Even worse than season 2. What a shame.
Saucycarpdog
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Well that Zaheer confrontation we have all been waiting for was very anti-climatic. Kinda hoping he would have said something about Korra and friends killing his GF and the rest of his posse. Didn't seem to care all that much but I guess he has let go of his earthly tethers so he doesn't care about anything.
Kinda hope Zaheer escapes and kills kuviera, might make this season a little exciting.
Kinda hope Zaheer escapes and kills kuviera, might make this season a little exciting.
How about no.
asami is responsible for the entire city's improved infrastructure.................. they said this in literally the first episode
like i agree that varrick overtakes her role often but let's not go back to rewriting history. the show is shit enough on its own without having to make up reasons to dislike it
He did say we didn't see her doing shit onscreen, whereas we literally see Verrick experimenting with, say, the spirit vines and the magnet suit last season that never amounted to anything, and stuff like that.
Even if Asami does do shit offscreen, it'd be nice to see more of it.
like when she spearheaded the repair of the airship that they crashed or the creation of the makeshift sandsailer?
like... you guys gotta temper your expectations of the show, someday.
Ah yes when Asami blowtorched the tail wing and magically fixed the blimp. Truly ground breaking stuff.
I forgot about the air surfer though. That was good.
Zaheer is such a boss man, holy shit...
Guy is bounded, and was even more spiritual than the Avatar. In the end he even managed to guide her through her fears and get her back in the game. We talking Iroh level of guidance right now fellas.
Also, poor Bolin... Having to go to a suicidal mission to save his ex's family to get that ass back is freaking low, he should just go to the chick on Season 2, lower risk, higher reward.
Can't wait for next episode
Guy is bounded, and was even more spiritual than the Avatar. In the end he even managed to guide her through her fears and get her back in the game. We talking Iroh level of guidance right now fellas.
Also, poor Bolin... Having to go to a suicidal mission to save his ex's family to get that ass back is freaking low, he should just go to the chick on Season 2, lower risk, higher reward.
Can't wait for next episode
She rebuilt the infrastructure of Republic City and made the new train system (I don't think there was one in the first 3 seasons?)
It was said.
"I built these roads." Oh, okay, cool I guess. That sounds interesting, and like it would be a challenge that would shed some light on your character as you grew over the last three years. Shame we don't get to see it.
Whereas Varrick is building fucking electromagnetic pulse bombs from scratch during a life or death confrontation against mechs and earthbenders.
I set my expectations at season 3, which was good. I expected decent storytelling, but everything is hamfisted and surface level or just a waste. Why did Kai get so much screen time and undercut Jinora's development to not be in season 4 virtually at all?
Yep.
While I think that Varrick is an true genius, being both bright and open to new ideas and unusual out of the box thinking and thus the better inventor, Asami's sanity, calmness and social interaction ability are pretty important too. They are two different kinds of minds and that's good.
WrenchNinja
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Raava: "No, you're most powerful here. In the spirit world, you're connected to all the spiritual energy."
Wow, that sure would have been a good nugget of knowledge in season 2. Or for Aang back in Book 1's finale. Or for Avatar Kuruk's backstory.
Wow, that sure would have been a good nugget of knowledge in season 2. Or for Aang back in Book 1's finale. Or for Avatar Kuruk's backstory.
That scene where Zaheer helps Korra reminded me of how those TV/DVD repair folk would interact with their customer.
Zaheer: Yep, you're pretty busted.
Korra: Can you fix it?
Zaheer: Here's your problem, you're not letting your traumatic hallucination play out.
Korra: Huh?
Zaheer: All you need to is let it play out in full.
Korra: That simple?
Zaheer: That simple.
Korra: Wow, thanks Zaheer. Out of everyone who helped me, you were the most supportive, understanding, and helpful.
Zaheer: Yep, you're pretty busted.
Korra: Can you fix it?
Zaheer: Here's your problem, you're not letting your traumatic hallucination play out.
Korra: Huh?
Zaheer: All you need to is let it play out in full.
Korra: That simple?
Zaheer: That simple.
Korra: Wow, thanks Zaheer. Out of everyone who helped me, you were the most supportive, understanding, and helpful.
I don't think he's implying she never does things onscreen. Just that it's usually offscreen, whereas Verrick does his inventing usually onscreen, when it should be the reverse or atleast more even.
I think his greater point is something you'd agree with though: Asami needs more screentime doing stuff.
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