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[DiipuSurotu]

Lightsaber looks cool, but hella impractical. The point of a crossguard is to protect the wielder's hand. You obviously can't have the blades touching the hand, but the metal part provides no protection when an opponent's blade slides down, since it'll just be cut through.

Also, it's a bit weird how they're still using X-Wings, TIE Fighters, Stormtrooper armor, etc. in the future. I did like the new speeder bike; it's very Star Wars-y.

Future? It's just 30 years (of war presumably).

 

[bananafactory]

Sounds like expanded universe shit which is NOT canon. According to Lucas, there are both clones and non-clones. Direct quote from the creator of all things himself:



Source.

There are absolutely still clones in the original universe as far as Lucas is concerned. He has always said what is in his movies is all that exists as far as he's concerned when it comes to canon. There are the movies, then there is everything else. Of course, thing can change now that Disney owns it. But, they have officially scrapped everything Expanded Universe any way, so that shit still doesn't matter.

Thanks, that's what I thought.

Anyways, for people wondering about use of EU stuff in the movies, the entire EU canon is scrapped BUT the movies and shows may use EU content as a source for new content within the updated official canon. This might mean a direct adapation of people or stories from EU, or something as simple as taking a name but completely changing the character/background behind it.

 

[Toxi]

Future? It's just 30 years (of war presumably).

A lot changes in thirty years; modern militaries generally don't use the same gear that was in use thirty years ago. And that's in a world without millions of planets and trillions of people providing new technology. You even see some advancement in the original trilogy; the TIE Fighters in Return of the Jedi included many newer, sleeker models.

 

[Trago]

Been at work all day, I'm not fuckin around with spoilers, I'm out!

But the trailer was hype! I love that new saber and the rolling droid.

Also, ATTACK THE BLOCK GUY IS IN THIS WTF!?!

 

[MattyG]

So I see that "impractical" is being overused to the point of losing all meaning. If it were impractical, there would be no use for it and it would be illogical. I can think of multiple logical uses for it right off the top of my head. Impractical is starting to be parroted repeatedly in here as a synonym for "I think it looks dumb".

 

[Toxi]

So I see that "impractical" is being overused to the point of losing all meaning. If it were impractical, there would be no use for it and it would be illogical. I can think of multiple logical uses for it right off the top of my head. Impractical is starting to be thrown around in here as a synonym for "I think it looks dumb".

I think it's impractical because it's adding another sharp edge to the weapon where you probably won't be using it. It looks cool, it doesn't actually do much other than make the weapon more difficult to use.

 

[Daniel Jackson]

Also, it's a bit weird how they're still using X-Wings, TIE Fighters, Stormtrooper armor, etc. in the future.

Well technically it's not the future, it's just a little bit less long ago

 

[TheKaeptain]

A lot changes in thirty years; modern militaries generally don't use the same armor, weapons, and vehicles that were in use thirty years ago. And that's in a world without millions of planets and trillions of people providing new technology.

The Humvee has been in service since 1984. The m-16 has been in service since 1962. I could go on but you should already get the point. The X-wings are improved designs btw. We haven't had a good look at the TIE fighters but I bet they're changed too.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

A lot changes in thirty years; modern militaries generally don't use the same gear that was in use thirty years ago. And that's in a world without millions of planets and trillions of people providing new technology. You even see some advancement in the original trilogy; the TIE Fighters in Return of the Jedi included many newer, sleeker models.

Well the X-Wings and Stormtrooper armor are different. They're less bulky than the original. The TIE Fighters seem the same but it's kinda hard to tell from the quick cut.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

A lot changes in thirty years; modern militaries generally don't use the same gear that was in use thirty years ago. And that's in a world without millions of planets and trillions of people providing new technology. You even see some advancement in the original trilogy; the TIE Fighters in Return of the Jedi included many newer, sleeker models.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H99XlWQ9KsA

 

[Megasoum]

A lot changes in thirty years; modern militaries generally don't use the same gear that was in use thirty years ago. And that's in a world without millions of planets and trillions of people providing new technology. You even see some advancement in the original trilogy; the TIE Fighters in Return of the Jedi included many newer, sleeker models.

B-52s are in service since the 1950s and will be in service well into the 2030s.

Most planes used by the navy are at least 20-30 years old.

Also those a clearly new models of X-Wings in the teaser since they have a new design.

 

[Shadders]

The X-Wing gif is giving me butterflies in my penis.

 

[Philippo]

I'm not a huge fan of the saga (just a regular one who enjoys the movies and that's it), but this urged me to go back and watch this scene once again, which i consider the best one in cinematography's history.

 

[Toxi]

The Humvee has been in service since 1984. The m-16 has been in service since 1962. I could go on but you should already get the point. The X-wings are improved designs btw. We haven't had a good look at the TIE fighters but I bet they're changed too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H99XlWQ9KsA

B-52s are in service since the 1950s and will be in service well into the 2030s.

Most planes used by the navy are at least 20-30 years old.

Also those a clearly new models of X-Wings in the teaser since they have a new design.

Dang, didn't realize so much old stuff was still in use.

And I guess it makes sense; it's not like you're going to just trash the old ships even if you do make new ones.

 

[squidyj]

beats the fuck out of that Jurassic World trailer

lightsaber is stupid though.

 

[MrOogieBoogie]

Not even a big Star Wars fan, but that trailer has me hyped.

 

[Fliesen]

We get it man, whatever. Constantly posting about it helps nobody. People who don't want to be spoiled are now 'what, something was spoiled?' pages after the fact and people who don't care...still don't care.

"pages after the fact" is due to the fact that this thread moves at roughly 1 page every 2-3 minutes

and you see, people who wanted to discuss the teaser, the usefulness of the light saber, maybe the relation of the "speeder" to luke's lightsaber are bailing out because people keep discussing spoilers and others are defending their lack of empathy, saying they're just too uptight about spoilers.

there's a separate thread for story and spoiler discussions.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=838649

i would ask people who move their conversations that are 90% blacked out to this thread.

 

[Toxi]

Also, if the main character is the Stormtrooper in the trailer, that's going to be one hell of an interesting start for the character.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

beats the fuck out of that Jurassic World trailer

lightsaber is stupid though.

I actually have zero hype for Jurassic World because of the timing of this Star Wars VII teaser's announcement and reveal, lol.

 

[CitizenVectron]

B-52s are in service since the 1950s and will be in service well into the 2030s.

Most planes used by the navy are at least 20-30 years old.

Also those a clearly new models of X-Wings in the teaser since they have a new design.

Exactly these X-Wings are basically like the Superhornet is to the F-18 Hornet: they look similar and maybe fly similar, but they have new updates.

 

[Fliesen]

Well the X-Wings and Stormtrooper armor are different. They're less bulky than the original. The TIE Fighters seem the same but it's kinda hard to tell from the quick cut.

i didn't see how they're any different really.

the "brighter" wings might just be due to reflections, other than that the cockpit pretty much looks the same. what else is there that might have undergone change?

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

The beam crackles chaotically, a sign that this Sith is unpredictable and dangerous and not afraid to involve him/herself in peril. It is reminiscent of old weapon designs (in human history)...perhaps this Sith has beliefs rooted in ancient Jedi lore and seeks the power of the old Sith Lords of days gone by. Could also be why he is apparently known as a

Spoiler

grave robber. Rumours have said he is searching out jedi artifacts...vader's belongings etc. Outside of maybe Luke having had returned to Tatooine to "retire", grave robber could be there looking for artifacts related to Ben Kenobi ie searching his old hut etc. Graverobber is searching for artifacts in order to unlock areas of the Force that are perhaps unknown to him/her at this time

I would shit my pants in delight if this were true. I'm not even a huge Star Wars fan, but this storyline just sounds badass.

The question I have is if the midichlorian stuff will be mentioned again, or if we go back to a more spiritual meaning of the force. Never quite liked the idea of mystical blood parasites.

My thoughts on how they could rid the series of Midichlorians once and for all is to have some character mention them as some sort of old (disproven) nonsense.

Think about any other movie where a character would talk about some sciencey belief, and another character would shoot them down by talking about another former belief that no longer applies. I'm tired and not thinking straight, so I'm not sure if that made any sense, so I'll just give an example of what I mean. And I'm not a script-writer, so please be kind.

Two Storm Troopers are talking:

Trooper 1: I overheard some Jedi prisoners talking about some ancient evil being waking up and hunting down their friends. Think we should be worried it'll show up here?

Trooper 2: Jedis? Those people are always mixed up. Aren't they the same ones who used to believe they got magic powers from little bugs that don't exist living in their blood? What were they called--Midicoridans, Minihortans?

Trooper 1: Midichlorians?

Trooper 2: That's right. So why start believing their nonsense now?

Trooper 1: Good point, sir. And may I say, your butt looks really nice in that outfit.

Trooper 2: Wanna make out?

Troopers lean in for a kiss. *Fade to black*

Something like that.

 

[Megasoum]

i didn't see how they're any different really.

the "brighter" wings might just be due to reflections, other than that the cockpit pretty much looks the same. what else is there that might have undergone change?

The wings are different. Instead of 2 full wings squeezing together when going for space flight they now have 2 half wings that "fit" together when to go for speed.

 

[massoluk]

A lot changes in thirty years; modern militaries generally don't use the same gear that was in use thirty years ago. And that's in a world without millions of planets and trillions of people providing new technology. You even see some advancement in the original trilogy; the TIE Fighters in Return of the Jedi included many newer, sleeker models.

You would think the stormtrooopers would be using an iphone now in the Force Awaken.

 

[Fliesen]

Exactly these X-Wings are basically like the Superhornet is to the F-18 Hornet: they look similar and maybe fly similar, but they have new updates.

just like the X-Wing was to the original
Z 95 headhunter

The wings are different. Instead of 2 full wings squeezing together when going for space flight they now have 2 half wings that "fit" together when to go for speed.

ha, sorry, i knew that already. I was refering to people who said the TIEs looked different, my bad

 

[NintendoGal]

I commented on a friend's FB post about the hilted lightsaber, feel free to point out the flaws in my argument because I'd love to be wrong about it.

I don't personally like it simply because a hilt, at least to me, seems like a defensive type of portion to a sword. The way they have displayed this to work leaves the lightsaber quite vulnerable to destruction if the opponent aims their strike perfectly, which Jedi have a tendency to do. It also looks like it would be a bitch to weld, especially with the effectiveness of lightsaber to flesh. /nerd

 

[Spieler Eins]

A lot changes in thirty years; modern militaries generally don't use the same gear that was in use thirty years ago. And that's in a world without millions of planets and trillions of people providing new technology. You even see some advancement in the original trilogy; the TIE Fighters in Return of the Jedi included many newer, sleeker models.

Not to mention in a galaxy in which technology/military rapidly and completely changed between the first two trilogies, lol. Although that was just another prequel idiocy first and foremost, but still.

 

[Fiktion]

just like the X-Wing was to the original
Z 95 headhunter

That's not canon anymore. Those never existed.

 

[Toxi]

Holy shit I love this droid design. It's creative, it's bizarre, it makes sense in a strange sort of way, and it's adorable.

 

[Alienous]

I commented on a friend's FB post about the hilted lightsaber, feel free to point out the flaws in my argument because I'd love to be wrong about it.

I think the lightsaber, and the way the dude is moving, does a good job of saying "This dude is fucking crazy and not to be trifled with".

 

[Tookay]

Not to mention in a galaxy in which technology rapidly and completely changed between the first two trilogies, lol. Although that was just another prequel idiocy first and foremost, but still.

Or you know, technology and society regressing under an oppressive empire.

 

[bananafactory]

Holy shit I love this droid design. It's creative, it's bizarre, it makes sense in a strange sort of way, and it's adorable.

Yup it's great, reminds me of some of the crazy designs from the original trilogy and not those horrible boring robots from Phantom Menace.

 

[NintendoGal]

I think the lightsaber, and the way the dude is moving, does a good job of saying "This dude is fucking crazy and not to be trifled with".

But how does that invalidate my observation about the lightsaber hilt thing?

 

[Fliesen]

I commented on a friend's FB post about the hilted lightsaber, feel free to point out the flaws in my argument because I'd love to be wrong about it.

and i'd keep referring to this sketch of mine. maybe the nubs on the handle doesn't project the additional sabers, but actually just "house" beams that are projected from a central prism / crystal. So while a skilled attacker could hit and damage the hilt, he couldn't "cut off" the crossguard altogether, because the actual beam within comes from further within the handle.

 

[Lazyslob]

are people really that selfish they want to pop into a thread that is about a trailer and wants to tell people "NO ONE TALK ABOUT THIS TRAILER. EVEN IF THATS WHAT THE THREAD IS ABOUT, HOW DARE YOU ALL". you could just not come into the thread


but other than that i think the trailer is pretty cool

 

[DiipuSurotu]

i didn't see how they're any different really.

the "brighter" wings might just be due to reflections, other than that the cockpit pretty much looks the same. what else is there that might have undergone change?

Old X-Wing had red marks and when the wings fold they just look like superposed wings (with two reactors on top of each other):

New X-Wing has blue marks and when the wings fold they actually look like one wing:

Old vs New Stormtrooper helmets:

 

[Alienous]

But how does that invalidate my observation about the lightsaber hilt thing?

Because you're assuming that he's a rational dude making rational choices, when in all likelihood he's insane and the hilt is part of the character's maybe regal lunacy.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

I commented on a friend's FB post about the hilted lightsaber, feel free to point out the flaws in my argument because I'd love to be wrong about it.

It doesn't look particularly useful, which makes me think it's ancient technology, and that the guy/gal wielding it is the awakened evil or whatever that the voiceover is referring to.

 

[iosefe]

But how does that invalidate my observation about the lightsaber hilt thing?

if they choose to, it is a Vibrohilt. vibro weapons can go toe to toe with lightsabers. we've seen countless lightsabers destroyed by others in the past, and if they chose to bring vibro tech into the movie canon, you have a very good weapon

 

[Fliesen]

Or you know, technology and society regressing under an oppressive empire.

and no R&D resources going into development of "obsolete" technologies like small starfighters, when there's the "ultimate weapon" (the death-star) around. neither would much progress be made during the struggles after the death of emperor palpatine.

 

[Tunesmith]

Yup it's great, reminds me of some of the crazy designs from the original trilogy and not those horrible boring robots from Phantom Menace.

My sentiment exactly, the "some crazy old guy cobbled this together" vibe from the originals shines.

 

[Truant]

As someone who thinks the only worthwhile Star Wars material is EU and the KOTOR games, the plot rumors and villain designs are really making me excited.

Spoiler

Is the graverobber plot true? If so, that sounds extremely promising. Straight out of top tier EU shit right there. Could easily have been the plot of the next Obsidian-penned KOTOR game if it ever were to happen. Such an awesome premise that explores the darker mystical elements of Star Wars. Ancient artefacts, civilizations and evil characters.

 

[bananafactory]

With all the X-Wing comparison talk, surprised we aren't using the official photo more

 

[CloudyTuba]

Holy shit I love this droid design. It's creative, it's bizarre, it makes sense in a strange sort of way, and it's adorable.

Totally agreed. Great little guy.

 

[bananafactory]

My sentiment exactly, the "some crazy old guy cobbled this together" vibe from the originals shines.

Yup.

I mean look at some of these

New droid fits right in there

 

[NintendoGal]

if they choose to, it is a Vibrohilt. vibro weapons can go toe to toe with lightsabers. we've seen countless lightsabers destroyed by others in the past, and if they chose to bring vibro tech into the movie canon, you have a very good weapon

I'll accept this explanation over the others because it is grounded in the lore (for lack of a better term?) that is Star Wars. Thank you.

 

[Dany]

Holy shit I love this droid design. It's creative, it's bizarre, it makes sense in a strange sort of way, and it's adorable.

That's not a soccer ball?

 

[Fliesen]

are people really that selfish they want to pop into a thread that is about a trailer and wants to tell people "NO ONE TALK ABOUT THIS TRAILER. EVEN IF THATS WHAT THE THREAD IS ABOUT, HOW DARE YOU ALL". you could just not come into the thread

nobody's saying "don't talk about the trailer"

people are saying "do not post pictures of leaks and talk about supposedly leaked storylines"

 

[Toxi]

and i'd keep referring to this sketch of mine. maybe the nubs on the handle doesn't project the additional sabers, but actually just "house" beams that are projected from a central prism / crystal. So while a skilled attacker could hit and damage the hilt, he couldn't "cut off" the crossguard altogether, because the actual beam within comes from further within the handle.

And suddenly the design makes perfect sense. Welp, I got nothing to complain about.

 

[Fliesen]

That's not canon anymore. Those never existed.

sorry, the legendary beast that is the Z95 skyhopper!