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[SgtCobra]

Ok let's say TLG ( a game by the makers of one of the best game ever, Shadow of The Colossus ) is not a megaton

So what is a megaton in your opinions ?

A real megaton would be something unexpected like a new Chrono game or stuff like Shenmue, a new half life, an exclusive third party game like a FFVII remake.
And not an already unveiled first party game everyone and their cat

Spoiler

bird

knows is coming.

Like what ? Street Fighter V ? DMC5 ? These games will come out with or without Sony so is this a megaton ? i don't think so...

Then why is a re-unveiling of TLG a megaton in your opinion then?

 

[Acquiescence]

Super compressed but I haven't seen these yet.

Some games can survive on atmosphere/immersion alone. The Order will be one of them.

 

[Pennywise]

Not sure how hyped I should be about this event, but those tweets... Man.

Which tweets ?
Just the thuway tweets or anything else ?

 

[GarciaHotspur]

Ok, so now I know why you're going to be disappointed...

You're expectations are too high...

Then why is a re-unveiling of TLG a megaton in your opinion then?

Because every playstation fans want this game ?

 

[EmptySpace]

I mean there's keeping a sense of discovery and then there's handicapping your game to such an extent that it looks like uninteresting shite, which is basically where Order is at for many people right now. It is not an attractive place to be at

I hope we get Witness sometime this century ;P

all i know is that ghost of sparta was better than gow3 and dexter was a great psp game so i have a lot of confidence in rad.

 

[StuBurns]

Because every playstation fans want this game ?

Not only is that massively far from true, it also has no impact whatsoever on how expected it is.

 

[SgtCobra]

Because every playstation fans want this game ?

Hahaha that's a nice generalization there. So a re-unveiling of TLG at PSX is a megaton because every Playstation fan wants this game? Well, a "real Playstation fan" knows it's not a matter of if but when and wouldn't be surprised by the announcement itself but perhaps more about the footage, but that's hardly what one would call a "megaton".

Assuming it is one of announcements, what makes you think TLG is the actual 'surprise'? It could very well be that big sigh of relief (again, IF it is announced). The surprise could be something else altogether. Not every announcement needs to end in drama and tears you know...

Well the last few pages (back at your page) have been nothing but TLG this and TLG that. But I'm still hopeful that it's something that will actually surprise people. And that drama part has been foretold by several people (it would make people "rage")

 

[Amir0x]

I judge megaton based on how crazily the community will react.

There will be an 800 page TLG topic when it is revealed again.

It's not a megaton in terms of its ability to dramatically change anything at market of course >

 

[riskVSreward]

Is Street Fighter really gonna be exclusive, guys?

 

[nbnt]

I hope whoever is making the next Crash to use this design

 

[El-Pistolero]

Not only is that massively far from true, it also has no impact whatsoever on how expected it is.

TLG would cause forums to crash. The general public might not care, but for the PS fans -especially those who have appreciated Ueda's work-, introducing this game again will be nothing short of a gigantic event.

 

[B.O.O.M]

I see the value of TLG (other than it being a game from Team ICO, for fans who enjoyed their past work) is that it adds on to the overall gaming portfolio of Sony first party studio exclusives. Adds a little something extra to the overall image and diversity. This will be a big strength going forward for the PS4

 

[StuBurns]

TLG would cause forums to crash. The general public might not care, but for the PS fans -especially those who have appreciated Ueda's work-, introducing this game again will be nothing short of a gigantic event.

Anything can cause GAF to crash, it's not some achievement. The announcement of Sonic for Wii U did. Let that sink in.

 

[El-Pistolero]

Anything can cause GAF to crash, it's not some achievement. The announcement of Sonic for Wii U did. Let that sink in.

I said forums, in general. This is a greatly anticipated game, no doubt.

 

[David___]

Anything can cause GAF to crash, it's not some achievement. The announcement of Sonic for Wii U did. Let that sink in.

Pretty sure Gaf also crashed when Boyes mentioned the site during the E3 conference.

 

[GnawtyDog]

I hope whoever is making the next Crash to use this design

Too chubby....noooooo....

Give me sleek Crash.

 

[Acquiescence]

TLG would cause forums to crash. The general public might not care, but for the PS fans -especially those who have appreciated Ueda's work-, introducing this game again will be nothing short of a gigantic event.

People who downplay the significance of a TLG re-reveal sure are quick to forget how many there are convinced the game's long been cancelled, despite Yoshida's several claims stating otherwise. Visit any TLG thread in the past two years or so and it's usually full of "It's dead, let it go" posts.

Yeah, Trico's never going to have the mainstream appeal of an Uncharted, but it'll still cause a huge ruckus on the internet when it returns, that much is certain.

 

[StuBurns]

I said forums, in general. This is a greatly anticipated game, no doubt.

Doubt.

It's not greatly anticipated at all. It's a joke to a great many people in fact. Even on GAF, which is hugely more core 'arty' leaning than most game related places online, the hype for TLG isn't particularly notable.

You'll see when it's rerevealed. It's just not going to be a huge deal. It's certainly not going to sell anything like UC/GoW/GT numbers.

Even FFXV's rereveal wasn't that big of a deal really, and it's not going to be nearly as big as that, I imagine.

 

[Amir0x]

StuBurns you're being really disingenuous now.

The Last Guardian is hugely anticipated and there is literally zero doubt it's going to cause a massive reaction in the community when it's re-revealed.

Not everything has to change the market game for this to be true. No, it's not going to sell UC/GoW/GT numbers, but it's still hugely anticipated amongst the very community you're part of. Please, take a step back and await the 800 page thread incoming due to its re-reveal. You have no ground to stand on if you've been following the communities reaction to TLG already. Just the merest hint that TLG was cancelled on IGN caused a huge topic shitstorm that went for a zillion pages.

 

[StuBurns]

StuBurns you're being really disingenuous now.

The Last Guardian is hugely anticipated and there is literally zero doubt it's going to cause a massive reaction in the community when it's re-revealed.

Not everything has to change the market game for this to be true. No, it's not going to sell UC/GoW/GT numbers, but it's still hugely anticipated amongst the very community you're part of. Please, take a step back and await the 800 page thread incoming due to its re-reveal. You have no ground to stand on if you've been following the communities reaction to TLG already. Just the merest hint that TLG was cancelled on IGN caused a huge topic shitstorm that went for a zillion pages.

800 pages? Okay. Quote this post when that happens.

It will not.

I'll even give you the fifty post per page out, too.

 

[SgtCobra]

People who downplay the significance of a TLG re-reveal sure are quick to forget how many there are convinced the game's long been cancelled, despite Yoshida's several claims stating otherwise. Visit any TLG thread in the past two years or so and it's usually full of "It's dead, let it go" posts.

Like I said, they are only kidding themselves or are really misinformed. Sony has never quietly cancelled an awaited game, why would it be the case with TLG? I'm also convinced that there are enough people joking and being sarcastic when they say the game is dead.
Sure,a re-unveiling would be kinda big for some people and it's also a pleasant surprise to see what the game has become but an 8 out of 10? (And 10 was supposed to be a "console war is over" score) I seriously doubt it.

 

[Azdoune]

TLG announcement is not a megaton because it's not a surprise. Unless they said "TLG is available right now on ps4".

 

[Amir0x]

800 pages? Okay. Quote this post when that happens.

It will not.

I'll even give you the fifty post per page out, too.

Of course it's not going to be 800 pages, please think before you post. We can't get to 800 pages because we have a 20,000 post limit for topics. It's called hyperbole-for-effect, to illustrate how disingenuous your point is. Anyone who has been following GAF and the TLG communities knows how insane it's going to be when they show it again.

Read this topic of just the hint the game is cancelled. Over 6000 posts, 138 pages @ 50ppp.

There's a sub community of people mourning the fact it doesn't exist. A mod has a joking tag referencing it. The Last Guardian is hugely significant to the type of gamers who visit this board and there is zero doubt - literally ZERO - that it's going to incite an insane reaction once it's re-revealed.

 

[Primeau31]

Because every playstation fans want this game ?

I am a PlayStation fan, and I know absolutely NOTHING about this game, therefore I'm not excited in the least bit about it.

We don't even know what genre of game its going to be, we don't know if its changed since its original conception, we know NOTHING other than its existence.

There's nothing that makes me want it.

 

[El-Pistolero]

Doubt.

It's not greatly anticipated at all. It's a joke to a great many people in fact. Even on GAF, which is hugely more core 'arty' leaning than most game related places online, the hype for TLG isn't particularly notable.

You'll see when it's rerevealed. It's just not going to be a huge deal. It's certainly not going to sell anything like UC/GoW/GT numbers.

Even FFXV's rereveal wasn't that big of a deal really, and it's not going to be nearly as big as that, I imagine.

FF has no longer the aura it once had, thanks to a series of controversial episodes (Hi FF XIII !); I think that the same skepticism and wait-and-see attitude is in play vis-a-vis the Gran Turismo franchise, for exemple.
The case of The Last Guardian is different : Both Ico and SOTC were masterpieces. I think some people react the way they do when the subject of TLG is brought up for the same reason an enamored guy would trash a girl he madly desires, in a heart breaking one way love story : Because he is hurt...
I might be wrong, but this is the way I see it.

 

[enzo_gt]

So if KH3 is so far away, what are the chances we'll see a KH2.5 port for PS4 earlier? My friend is a huge fan of the franchise and it would probably get him to jump on the PS4 train earlier, and I wouldn't mind catching up myself.

- - -

As far expectations go, I can't really think of any realistically.

Exclusive (even timed) Street Fighter of any kind would be potentially the biggest exclusive backlash ever. I don't see it happening, and Ono seems to be comfortable with the idea of the next game being multiplatform, and they've sort of been hinting at the debut at Capcom Cup (but it could just be playable first there). When were talking Capcom's next title, it could be anything, really, from a Remember Me type publishing deal to a B-tier franchise. I don't put exclusively debuting an A-tier franchise out of the question though. Between MKX and Destiny, Sony sure loves promoting multiplatform games like they are their own.

Beyond Capcom, I just want appearances from some of the first party IPs I like most (God of War, Motorstorm, Fat Princess, etc.) but a lot of those are unlikely. I think it's a bit early for God of War too.

 

[DieH@rd]

Of course it's not going to be 800 pages, please think before you post. We can't get to 800 pages because we have a 20,000 post limit for topics. It's called hyperbole-for-effect, to illustrate how disingenuous your point is. Anyone who has been following GAF and the TLG communities knows how insane it's going to be when they show it again.

Read this topic of just the hint the game is cancelled. Over 6000 posts, 138 pages @ 50ppp.

There's a sub community of people mourning the fact it doesn't exist. A mod has a joking tag referencing it. The Last Guardian is hugely significant to the type of gamers who visit this board and there is zero doubt - literally ZERO - that it's going to incite an insane reaction once it's re-revealed.

The moment anything is announced about TLG relaunch on PS4, hundred users from GAF are gonna dedicate one hour of their lives only for posting celebratory gifs of all kinds. It is gonna be glorious.

 

[Acquiescence]

Like I said, they are only kidding themselves or are really misinformed. Sony has never quietly cancelled an awaited game, why would it be the case with TLG? I'm also convinced that there are enough people joking and being sarcastic when they say the game is dead.
Sure,a re-unveiling would be kinda big for some people and it's also a pleasant surprise to see what the game has become but an 8 out of 10? (And 10 was supposed to be a "console war is over" score) I seriously doubt it.

There sure are a lot of dismissive posts in this thread for instance that don't come across as people joking to me. You might think they're in the wrong, but those folks can just as easily say "You're deluded if you think it's ever coming back" and think the same of you. Some are just really set in their ways where TLG is concerned.

And it's at least an 8. I'd give it a 9 on the Hype-o-meter personally. A high 9.

 

[StuBurns]

Of course it's not going to be 800 pages, please think before you post. We can't get to 800 pages because we have a 20,000 post limit for topics. It's called hyperbole-for-effect, to illustrate how disingenuous your point is. Anyone who has been following GAF and the TLG communities knows how insane it's going to be when they show it again.

We could have 'trailer thread 2' or whatever. But yes, you were obviously being hyperbolic, and what value does that have exactly when discussing the reaction? You're complaining I'm downplaying it while at the same time inflating the reaction like ten fold. Talk about hypocrisy, Christ.

There's a sub community of people mourning the fact it doesn't exist. A mod has a joking tag referencing it. The Last Guardian is hugely significant to the type of gamers who visit this board and there is zero doubt - literally ZERO - that it's going to incite an insane reaction once it's re-revealed.

TLG has become more about what it means to Sony than what it is. The jokes about its death play into a narrative about Sony's inability to deliver on a timely fashion, the state of Japanese development, etc. The constant interviews checking in on its existence with no sign of the game, it's like the industry's version of Castro.

When it's actually shown, none of that is going to be a factor, unless it's being made in the West anyway. The game itself isn't a big deal. The day after its announcement there'll be a few threads 'Ten years for that?', 'Not even Ueda's game at this point', 'TLG is dead, LOL' or whatever.

People frequently mention the concept that games (or anything really), can't live up to the hype of prolonged development. And while I disagree with that notion, TLG is an interesting example, because I don't think the hype ever really existed based on what the game actually was to begin with.

Ultimately, we will see. I don't believe it will be a big deal, no.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

So if KH3 is so far away, what are the chances we'll see a KH2.5 port for PS4 earlier? My friend is a huge fan of the franchise and it would probably get him to jump on the PS4 train earlier, and I wouldn't mind catching up myself.

I would pay >$60 for the KH complete edition (include 1.5 and 2.5) for PS4

 

[JehutyRunner]

The Chinese Room just confirmed Everybody's Gone to the Rapture won't be at PSX.

To answer y'all - Rapture won't be at PSX - don't want to show it until it's a bit further along...

Link

 

[Sidewinder]

The moment anything is announced about TGL relaunch on PS4, hundred users from GAF are gonna dedicate one hour of their lives only for posting celebratory gifs of all kinds. It is gonna be glorious.

Yes, it'll be a good day for sure! But you spelled it wrong, it's TLG not TGL, sacrilege!!1

 

[maquiladora]

The Chinese Room just confirmed Everybody's Gone to the Rapture won't be at PSX.



Link

:-(

 

[Amir0x]

We could have 'trailer thread 2' or whatever. But yes, you were obviously being hyperbolic, and what value does that have exactly when discussing the reaction? You're complaining I'm downplaying it while at the same time inflating the reaction like ten fold. Talk about hypocrisy, Christ.

Hyperbole can be utilized as an effective tool to illustrate just how absurd someone's point is on the surface. You have no ground to stand on and it's glaringly obvious. TLG topic is going to be massive and you're going to sit twiddling your thumbs pretending to be surprised.

TLG has become more about what it means to Sony than what it is. The jokes about it's death play into a narrative about Sony's inability to deliver on a timely fashion, the state of Japanese development, etc. The constant interviews checking in on its existence with no sign of the game, it's like the industry's version of Castro.

When it's actually shown, none of that is going to be a factor, unless it's being made in the West anyway. The game itself isn't a big deal. The day after it's announcement there'll be a few threads 'Ten years for that?', 'Not even Ueda's game at this point', 'TLG is dead, LOL' or whatever.

People frequently mention the concept that games (or anything really), can't live up to the hype of prolonged development. And while I disagree with that notion, TLG is an interesting example, because I don't think the hype ever really existed based on what the game actually was to begin with.

Ultimately, we will see. I don't believe it will be a big deal, no.

It's not a big deal at market; it will be a big deal on GAF. I don't know what's worse here: your profound misunderstanding of how GAF works given how long you've been here, or your profound misunderstanding of how important TLG is to hardcore gaming communities like this one.

It's almost like you're trying to be wrong in every conceivable fashion.

 

[KAL2006]

I think Street Fighter V will be revealed. But it won't be revealed in this event or Game Awards. But the following week at the Capcom Cup event and it will be a multi platform game.

 

[SgtCobra]

There sure are a lot of dismissive posts in this thread for instance that don't come across as people joking to me. You might think they're in the wrong, but those folks can just as easily say "You're deluded if you think it's ever coming back" and think the same of you. Some are just really set in their ways where TLG is concerned.

And it's at least an 8. I'd give it a 9 on the Hype-o-meter personally. A high 9.

Again, there is more evidence for the game being in development than for the game being cancelled. If they throw that line around against me then I'll kindly ask them why they think the game is cancelled other than "IGN said it!!" And "It has been 5 years"
A high 9 for a game that is in development and wll be re-unveiled soon? That's not very creative

 

[Guymelef]

The Chinese Room just confirmed Everybody's Gone to the Rapture won't be at PSX.



Link

2019 title.

 

[DieH@rd]

Man, reading that "IGN TLG is canceled" thread is so fun.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=115246105&postcount=2485

 

[Acquiescence]

Again, there is more evidence for the game being in development than for the game being cancelled. If they throw that line around against me then I'll kindly ask them why they think the game is cancelled other than "IGN said it!!" And "It has been 5 years"
A high 9 for a game that is in development and wll be re-unveiled soon? That's not very creative

But you don't know 100% if it'll be shown soon, and we've seen nothing new of the game since, what... 2010? Absence makes the heart grow fonder dude, I stick by my 9!

Man, reading that "IGN TLG is canceled" thread is so fun.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=115246105&postcount=2485

I'm so glad I wasn't around for the first portion of that thread, when IGN were definitively stating it was cancelled. I'd have been in a world of despair.

 

[Squire]

I agree with Stu. TLG is another thing people put way to much stock into. I mean, you're literally in love with an idea.

It'll bring down GAF like everything else, (including light gusts of wind) does and no other site.

 

[El-Pistolero]

Again, there is more evidence for the game being in development than for the game being cancelled. If they throw that line around against me then I'll kindly ask them why they think the game is cancelled other than "IGN said it!!" And "It has been 5 years"
A high 9 for a game that is in development and wll be re-unveiled soon? That's not very creative

You seem fixated on the announcements for the sake of the announcements themselves. There are people who will gladly trade the ephemeral excitement of witnessing an unexpected news, for the longer lasting joy of getting one's hands on what could end up being a masterpiece (If it comes out).

 

[Appollowexx]

I still remember getting the limited edition of the Team Ico HD Collection from Japan and finding out it had a booklet full of new artworks and concept illustrations for TLG. It was a good day.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

I will also guess that the Uncharted trilogy will be announced and released in first half of 2015.

 

[ekim]

I didn't follow the thread at all. The rumor about a capcom exclusive is now a given?

 

[De-mon]

I will also guess that the Uncharted trilogy will be announced and released in first half of 2015.

And Beyond: Two Souls HD. Trophies were leaked time ago.

 

[Gurish]

Super compressed but I haven't seen these yet.

Let's add another.

Damn The Order is going to be the best looking game on consoles for 2015 and it's coming out at the beginning of the year!

I don't see any title looking better on consoles until 2016 when GOW 4 comes out.

 

[SgtCobra]

You seem fixated on the announcements for the sake of the announcements themselves. There are people who will gladly trade the ephemeral excitement of witnessing an unexpected news, for the longer lasting joy of getting one's hands on what could end up being a masterpiece (If it comes out).

No I'm fixated on getting something other than TLG, I want something new. TLG will be re-unveiled soon or later (except if it gets cancelled, but there is no evidence for that)
Who says that another game other than TLG can't be a "masterpiece" too?

 

[nbnt]

I still remember getting the limited edition of the Team Ico HD Collection from Japan and finding out it had a booklet full of new artworks and concept illustrations for TLG. It was a good day.

I remember that day like it was yesterday. The collection is sitting right here beside me. ;_;

Damn The Order is going to be the best looking game on consoles for 2015 and it's coming out at the beginning of the year!

I don't see any title looking better on consoles until 2016 when GOW 4 comes out.

Have you seen U4's teaser, bro?

 

[StuBurns]

Hyperbole can be utilized as an effective tool to illustrate just how absurd someone's point is on the surface. You have no ground to stand on and it's glaringly obvious. TLG topic is going to be massive and you're going to sit twiddling your thumbs pretending to be surprised.

I'm not sure what you're implying? That I won't post in the reveal thread and will later pretend I didn't expect people to care? And you're actually suggesting I'm currently pretending to think TLG for PS4 isn't a megaton? Why would I do that?

People will care, people will post about the trailer, people will feather-ize their avatars. It will not be a megaton.

It's not a big deal at market; it will be a big deal on GAF. I don't know what's worse here: your profound misunderstanding of how GAF works given how long you've been here, or your profound misunderstanding of how important TLG is to hardcore gaming communities like this one.

It's almost like you're trying to be wrong in every conceivable fashion.

And now you're suggesting I'm not pretending to not know how big it will be, and I just don't understand. Even more confusing.

Again, we'll see. It won't be a big deal on GAF. And unless you're willing to quantify what you consider to be an actual big deal (unlike random hyperbolic crap), we'll never know who was right, but I gather that's your intention based on the fact you did choose to not quantify it.

 

[Philippo]

Damn The Order is going to be the best looking game on consoles for 2015 and it's coming out at the beginning of the year!

I don't see any title looking better on consoles until 2016 when GOW 4 comes out.

I beg to differ