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I'm just now getting a chance to watch this.
The point of the light-guard escapes me. The part that would need to block a lightsaber 99 out of 100 times is the one part that isn't lightsaber blade. Also, even if it didn't have that glaring problem, this would only have saved Dooku's hands. All the other hand chopping was from angles that this would be useless for.
 
The lead concept artist on the force awakens did concept art on all 3 prequels so there will be some influence at some level
 
Cheebo said:
Yes TFA is going to be distanced form prequels for a lot of the marketing aspects but there is one canon in star wars and the prequels are part of it. Prequels officially take place prior to TFA in the film series. They will never be removed from the canon.
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Canon is such a strange concept when it comes to this stuff. The only thing that matters is what Abrams (and soon Rian Johnson) cares about. The events of 1/2/3 can still have happened, but if the people currently running the film franchise don't give a shit about them, it has no value to the viewer in relation to the current films. Yeah, if they wanted to include something which directly contradicts something in the prequels, someone might step in and have it changed, but that's about it.
 
StuBurns said:
Yeah, if they wanted to include something which directly contradicts something in the prequels, someone might step in and have it changed, but that's about it.
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Yeah lucasfilm set up the story group about 2 years ago which all scripts and stories have to be reviewed by to make sure that the canon isn't contradicted.
 
So far I've been able to completely ignore the prequels in terms of canon, but what if EP7 starts referring to stuff from the prequels and how they're connected to the OT.

It could become like that BTTF-gif about Spider-Man 3.
 
Fudgepuppy said:
So far I've been able to completely ignore the prequels in terms of canon, but what if EP7 starts referring to stuff from the prequels and how they're connected to the OT.
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I wouldn't lose any sleep over that.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it's fairly detached even from the OT. Abrams said it has to work alone, for people with no experience of the franchise.
 
Abrams has said in the past he realizes a lot of young people grew up with the prequels and love them and he understands he has to balance both eras of the fan base. But most of all the movie has to work as viewers first star wars film too.
 
Can Crusher said:
I don't understand why you like the prequels so much. "Out of spite", please, more like you enjoy the garbage they are.
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Honestly, the PT haters sound just as crazy.

Ignoring the canon? Hoping Disney segments the canon for people to enjoy a PT free Star Wars universe?

lol

As long as we get the unaltered OT that's good enough for me.

Not like many people in this thread even know much about Star Wars canon anyway. I hate to constantly bring up Clone Wars, but it's in canon, isn't terrible, and most of GAF doesn't know jack shit about it.

They probably know even less about Rebels.
 
Cheebo said:
Abrams has said in the past he realizes a lot of young people grew up with the prequels and love them and he understands he has to balance both eras of the fan base. But most of all the movie has to work as viewers first star wars film too.
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That's unacceptable. If this movies holds too many references to those movies, I may have to skip VIII and IX. Lucas damn near ruined my entire life with the prequels to the point where if I see them on television or on store shelves, my day will be worse for it. I just stumble through life trying to forget them. A psychiatrist has labeled my condition as PTSD (prequel trilogy stress disorder).
 
The prequels ended 53 years before this and there's almost no character overlap. If anything significant screen time being given to prequel references would seem forced. (Oh, man... That's a pun. Oh well, fuck it.)
 
All that prequel hate is childish. I mean I get it why people don't like them, but not wanting it as part of the canon is extremly funny. I also get it that is "cool" to hate.
 
thecouncil said:
That's unacceptable. If this movies holds too many references to those movies, I may have to skip VIII and IX. Lucas damn near ruined my entire life with the prequels to the point where if I see them on television or on store shelves, my day will be worse for it. I just stumble through life trying to forget them. A psychiatrist has labeled my condition as PTSD (prequel trilogy stress disorder).
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The best part about this post is that on certain boards someone would have actually posted this 100% seriously, sans the PTSD bit.
 
zoukka said:
The walk looks so ridiculously "I'm a bad guy" act.
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Other than the *shock* dramatic light saber reveal, it looks like some pretty normal walking in a forest. Not like you can walk normally there, you kind of have to take more "exaggarated" steps because of the terrain.
 
thecouncil said:
That's unacceptable. If this movies holds too many references to those movies, I may have to skip VIII and IX. Lucas damn near ruined my entire life with the prequels to the point where if I see them on television or on store shelves, my day will be worse for it. I just stumble through life trying to forget them. A psychiatrist has labeled my condition as PTSD (prequel trilogy stress disorder).
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Star Wars: srs bsns.

Sometimes I'm glad that I'm not an obsessive Star Wars fanatic. I enjoy all 6 movies, and I believe I will enjoy the new trilogy. But some people? Jesus, they only love the first three movies, and the prequels "actually make them miserable". It must be fucking terrible.

EDIT: Oh, was your post sarcastic? If so, I'm sorry. It's actually pretty hard to tell, since a lot of real prequel haters type like that. :p
 
The plot and dialogue are why the Prequel Trilogy films suffer, but their mythology introduced isn't necessarily all bad. These films will have PT connections and it'll be fiiiiine.
 
jesus christ, of course JJ Abrams is going to ignore the prequels with the new movies. he lives for unearned nostalgia, and there ain't any to be mined from the fucking prequels
 
Famassu said:
Other than the *shock* dramatic light saber reveal, it looks like some pretty normal walking in a forest. Not like you can walk normally there, you kind of have to take more "exaggarated" steps because of the terrain.
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Might be walking down a ramp/slope too.
 
DiipuSurotu said:
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I would love it if Robot-kun was the actual villain.
 
SCReuter said:
I fully expect the original three films to be available on Blu-ray by the end of next year. FOX isn't going to refuse to distribute them.

My real hope is that Disney and Lucasfilm quietly place all the "Episode" movies into a separate Star Wars canon... like this:

CANON A
Star Wars
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
Star Wars: The Force Awakens

CANON B (The George Lucas Canon)
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (Special Edition)
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (Special Edition)
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (Special Edition)
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I don't care if they do, this is true for me. Hell my girlfriend never watched any of those movies and I am making her watch just the Harmys despecialized edition.
 
Can Crusher said:
I don't understand why you like the prequels so much. "Out of spite", please, more like you enjoy the garbage they are.
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I acknowledge the flaws but still find them super enjoyable and I like the story and action. Not sure what's wrong with that, and your type of attitude is exactly what I'm talking about. You're welcome to think they're garbage but not everyone feels that way.
 
brandonh83 said:
I acknowledge the flaws but still find them super enjoyable and I like the story and action. Not sure what's wrong with that, and your type of attitude is exactly what I'm talking about. You're welcome to think they're garbage but not everyone feels that way.
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Honestly I have no problem with you liking the prequels, but the "out of spite" excuse set me off playboy. Dem be fighting werds.
 
brandonh83 said:
I acknowledge the flaws but still find them super enjoyable and I like the story and action. Not sure what's wrong with that, and your type of attitude is exactly what I'm talking about. You're welcome to think they're garbage but not everyone feels that way.
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...and the prequels certainly don't need to be separated into their own "George Lucas canon" just to appease those people.

The more I think about the absurdity of the concept, the more I'm beginning to think that suggestion was a joke.
 
I certainly agree there will be next no references to the PT in these upcoming films, but the spinoff movies are all fair game. You're gonna see references, retellings, etc in those. I don't know why Disney (Lucasfilm) would completely cut off canon from an entire era that they can make more money off of.
 
Cheebo said:
you are WAAAY off.

Lucasfilm determines this not Disney first of all. second they put out a press release about canon a few months ago. All 6 movies are canon as well as the clone wars animated series and the new rebels animated series.

And guess what The Force Awakens has Episode VII in its opening crawl as well.
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I know about the press release. I'm talking about my personal hope for what happens in the future, not the current official word. And even if the people in charge don't move the lousy prequels and special editions to a separate canon, I already have in my mind, so whatever.

Also, official title =/= opening crawl. "Episode VII" is totally going to appear in the scrolling yellow text, but it should stay out of the film's official marketing logo in order to distance itself from George Lucas's wankery, which it apparently will.
 
Can Crusher said:
Honestly I have no problem with you liking the prequels, but the "out of spite" excuse set me off playboy. Dem be fighting werds.
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It's more like interest in seeing, in the case that the new films have some connections, how those who don't like the prequels react even if they're a lot better. :p
 
DarthWufei said:
I certainly agree there will be next no references to the PT in these upcoming films, but the spinoff movies are all fair game. You're gonna see references, retellings, etc in those. I don't know why Disney would completely cut off canon from an entire era that they can make more money off of.
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Ignoring is different from abandoning. They're not removing them from canon, but they don't have to force the filmmakers to acknowledge them in their films. I imagine Abrams would say Han shot first. There won't be a scene with Han reminiscing about how he shot first in TFA, so it's irrelevant what happened in the canon.

EDIT: That design doesn't seem to make sense. Presumably, the lightsaber needs to be long for some crazy shit in there, that has two incredibly small ones too. Abrams one is presumably splitting the beam.
 
thecouncil said:
...and the prequels certainly don't need to be separated into their own "George Lucas canon" just to appease those people.

The more I think about the absurdity of the concept, the more I'm beginning to think that suggestion was a joke.
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Don't take it too seriously. I would just like the upcoming trilogy and inevitable re-release of the original unaltered trilogy to be titled in a way that some of us can easily keep them separate from the prequels and special editions. There doesn't actually have to be an official change in canon. The titling alone will be enough.
 
Abrams created Lost and two big themes later in the series were "what happened, happened" and "if we can't live together, then we're gonna die alone."

Yes I know those probably weren't his ideas specifically but I think they can apply to the movies and the fans. :p

Let's all just be happy that we're on course to get some new really good SW movies and that the prequels didn't kill the series after all.
 
Kain said:
John Williams is composing this? Kudos to the man if so, he must be in his mid 80s by now.
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it's my understanding that big names like williams don't actually compose the majority of the music attributed to them. they really just oversee and set the overall tone of the soundtrack. he has people who actually do the bulk of the labor.
 
I just love the whole Lightsaber engineer experts that came from this teaser. It's like all those debates between Batman fans and Superman fans.
 
BobbyRoberts said:
Seriously tho:

John Boyega - black man.
Daisy Ridley - white woman.
Oscar Isaac - guatemalan/cuban/french.
Gwendoline Christie - white woman.
Lupita N'yongo - black woman.
Maisie Richardson-Sellers - black woman.
Christina Chong - asian woman.
Crystal Clarke - black woman.

The first three people on that list are the leads. The next three people are supporting characters with considerable screen-time, reportedly. Also, the word is that Christie's character is a genderswapped version of the role that Cumberbatch almost landed.

They're going out of their way to make the movie look a little more representative of the audience that will be watching it.

I'm not saying you can't feel unimpressed by the diversity in the cast. I'm saying I'd probably disagree with your level of "meh" about it, though.
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This is probably the best thing about this Star Wars, along with it not being a George Lucas styled Star Wars movie. I'm not sold like a lot of Gaffers are, but I'm definitely a lot more positive due to who the main characters are and what the movie is stylistically.
 
ffejeromdiks said:
lmao, how anyone can watch this and think it's legit is unfathomable. Did you think EP7 was being made on a 100$ budget?
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Laugh all you like, but the official trailer was good, if sparse up until the light saber, that looks like some fan made, or anime fan service/extended universe fan service bullshit.
 
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