The good bits of Jedi outshine and wash away the ewoks.
Star Wars will never diminish, even after a few bad movies (Sith was good) the people are hungry for more.
This movie will be the biggest thing Disney will have done in a long time.
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The good bits of Jedi outshine and wash away the ewoks.
Star Wars will never diminish, even after a few bad movies (Sith was good) the people are hungry for more.
This movie will be the biggest thing Disney will have done in a long time.
No, as far as I know all the previous EU shit just takes place in a different universe than the movies that are coming out.
Shogmaster
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The one from trailer is like an Apple designed lightsaber: high on style with clean look, but low on functionality.
I guess someone got to my hilt design long ago. Apparently with middle eastern design cues? Not very Star Warsy.
Star Wars is a pop culture phenom. Just like James Bond it's going to remain with us until we die. Do you also not understand Star Trek?
Hell, Guardians was basically Star Wars meets Serenity with a Forrest Gump soundtrack
The less Star Wars cares about the EU, the better off it is. Kind of like MCU throwing away comic book lore to make films about GOTG or the Avengers.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The stuff "people" liked?... Or the stuff an increasingly nerdy niche fanbase liked?. The masses of people who've watched Star Wars films generally do not care about the EU.
And if you ask me, it was a mess, and declaring all of that non-canon actually cleans it up.
My hype comes from loving all 6 previous movies.
Fuck the haters. I'm enjoying my Star Warz.
NekoFever
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It would have been a far bigger mess if they'd tried to bring out a new movie every year or two while not contradicting 30 years of expanded universe, which is itself a bit of a mess. A clean break was smart IMO.
Star Wars doesn't have multiple universes or timelines. One canon and that is it, Leland Chee explained it a little ways back they don't do the multiverse sort of stuff like comics. Just one canon/universe.
thecouncil
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Will the Special Edition edits still be considered canon once the original unaltered trilogy eventually gets re-released? Are the Special Edition edits even considered canon now?
It's because of confusing stuff like this that we should simply toss the Special Editions -- along with their sibling prequels -- into an alternate universe, and I'm glad we all seem to agree.
What's going to be deemed "not canon" about the special edition versions?
"Oh, guys, that alien never sang in Jabba's palace."
The edits didn't add or remove story elements.
DiipuSurotu
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Will the Special Edition edits still be considered canon once the original unaltered trilogy eventually gets re-released? Are the Special Edition edits even considered canon now?
It's because of confusing stuff like this that we should simply toss the Special Editions -- along with their sibling prequels -- into an alternate universe, and I'm glad we all seem to agree.
Does it even matter to future stories? None of the Special Edition changes were story-related, they were visual changes if I recall correctly.
One exception might be Han's meeting with Jabba in ANH, but I don't see what it changes for future stories to say that this meeting "happened" or "didn't happen".
They didn't round up and destroy every copy of the EU stuff. So canon or not is irrelevent and Star Wars is in the most positive looking position it has been in a long long time, especially after the trailer.
Exactly. You know what would be a mess? Trying to hamstring Abrams and co into making sure their movie didn't contradict the 100+ books written that took place after Return of the Jedi.
And I'm saying that anyone who enjoyed those things cares less about thinking critically about the media they enjoy and more about space magic and laser swords. If the prequels had nothing to do with Star Wars and all the good will the OT bought, they'd be Battlefield: Earth status.
Cow Mengde
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Just look at Star Trek's Original Series Blu-Ray release. By all comparisons, it's a "special" edition. Difference is that they went in to update things, not to change things.
And the changes were met with almost universally positive reactions from fans. People who didn't like it didn't feel the need to bash it, since the Blu-Rays also included the original versions.
Problem is, something like that for Star Wars will never happen. It's either the old movies (which I do love) or special edition with stupid changes.
BTW, is the Rancor scene improved in the Blu-Ray special edition? I remember how disappointed I was with Return Of The Jedi special edition where the Rancor's black outline was still very visible in the VHS release.
I like the Dew Backs. Well I like them in the scene I posted, I didn't like them roaring in front of the Catina entrance.
I think it's a lot of things.
Firstly no Lucas is essential. He's technically still kind of attached, but not really. I think he's being paid to smile and wave at the premier more than anything.
The choice of Abrams was genius. There's literally no other director better suited for this project. Every move he's made just screams that he knows what people care about.
The teaser is fucking hawt.
I like the original trilogy. I don't think they're great films or anything, but they're very entertaining, the second half of Jedi is a little rough, but for the most part, they're enjoyable. But even coming from that perspective, just seeing new, beautiful glimpses of Stormtroopers sends such a pronounced shiver down my spine. All this stuff is so embedded in popular culture that you don't even have to be a fan to have this trailer fire you up.
The franchise has produced decent stuff since Empire, but nothing worthy of those first two films. It's never been given the reverence it's earned, and just seeing the production of this teaser feels like that's over. Like Disney is dedicated to righting a thirty five year long wrong.
I'm sure they'll fuck it up, six films in six years is awful, and Abrams handing it off after one is a strange choice. Even though I love Brick, Johnson is a bizarre choice for 8/9. I don't have much faith Disney aren't going to fuck this up completely, but I do have faith that at least this one film is going to be the quality anything labeled Star Wars deserves given its cultural importance.
NekoFever
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Are we talking just since the reboot? Or ever? Because they have done alternate universe Star Wars stuff in the past: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Infinities
Ok,ok but surely this movie really has a lot to do to redeem the Star Wars movie franchise.
If it comes out and is mediocre or downright shitty like the prequels, what is left for Star Wars?
It cant even be blamed on old George this time.
But I suppose it will make loads of money anyway, so it probably doesn't matter either way.
If it comes out and is mediocre or downright shitty like the prequels, what is left for Star Wars?
It cant even be blamed on old George this time.
But I suppose it will make loads of money anyway, so it probably doesn't matter either way.
Post-reboot. He was answering a question about why they won't continue to release new content in the old EU timeline. That within Star Wars they only maintain one timeline, no multiple timeline/universe sort of concept along the lines of a Star Trek, Marvel, DC, etc.
SCReuter
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I need to know who truly shot first, and if Anakin really did have his eyebrows burnt off, and if Jabba's palace door really was THAT big. This is obviously all very important to me and I'm going to kick up sand if Lucasfilm doesn't clarify.
LaserBuddha
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Thats more of a "what-if" than a persistent alternate universe like DC Comics or Star Trek has.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
Banned
What I liked most about that interview was JJ saying he really hates giving too much of a movie away in trailers. If I have to wait a year to see this thing, I don't want to have already basically seen everything in trailers.
There's another: Rian Johnson
Eyebrow thing is actually one of the very few logical changes. It always baffled me why he had his eyebrows when he sustained burns in which he couldnt grow hair anywhere else on his body...except his eyebrows.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
you think they'll retroactively make this Ep.7 then
episode 7 by any other name is still episode 7
This is Episode 7 already. The opening crawl will say Episode VII. Not having 7 in the marketing material doesn't mean anything. The Empire Strikes Back was Episode V from the day it released but wasn't in the posters, trailers, etc.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
You say that as if everyone on the planet doesn't know that already.
Rest assured, Disney and Lucasfilm are pulling out all the stops in order to ensure that this is a top quality film that launches the brand back into long term relevancy. You can't always engineer a perfect film... But they are surely trying.
No one's out to make quick buck. They want the long term bucks. And that means they are putting an A++ effort on this film.
There's zero reason to suspect this will be bad because of previous Star Wars history. If George Lucas were doing it, sure. But now that one of the most popular film franchises has fallen into the hands of one of the most powerful media entities in the world, there is a huge mandate to make this, not just good, but excellent. The fact that it's Star Wars doesn't mean a sequel will suck... The fact that it's Star Wars in the hands of a very careful Disney means that it probably won't suck!
It IS Episode 7.
CloudyTuba
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A more apt comparison of old and new, I think.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Where's his R2 unit?
BradleyLove
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Good point. The original theatrical release of ANH made no reference to being Episode IV; that was added in subsequent re-releases.
Maybe this is another nod to the OT, that being the Episode VII sub-title being added in a later re-release?
TheKaeptain
Banned
Nah the Episode 7 will be on the scroll.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Were those compulsory for the X-Wing to function properly? They are flying in an atmosphere, so it's probably a bit more straight-forward in terms of navigation.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
A more apt comparison of old and new, I think.
Anyone knows what's written on the new character's white jacket?
BocoDragon
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You have to remember how trivial the episode numbers were on the OT. 99% of the audience didn't know what they meant in their day. So of course it's easy for VII to be on the scroll even if it's not in marketing. It's just a little touch.
Pull to inflate. Not sure why though. Do they anticipate flying over water every other day?
Scroll is 100% in. That has been confirmed.
Perfect Cha0s
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IIRC, "Pull to Inflate"
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
TheKaeptain
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They'll both be there.
"Pull to inflate"
Gambit 1138
Banned
I'm talking to Antoz. Why are you bringing up that old news again? It's actually kind of funny that the prequels and clone wars are considered "immovable" canon considering how all the characters die brutal deaths. I just feel there are actual canon errors by keeping them hence why I called them b tier.
DiipuSurotu
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Perfect Cha0s
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Tbh, it makes me wonder if the new X-wings are amphibious craft.
edit: Is amphiboius even the right word? I guess air-to-sea?
Gambit 1138
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The new novels are 100% canon and have been bringing back old eu stuff slowly slowly.
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