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Star Wars The Force Awakens Trailer

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I think my problem with it are those side stubs, looks visually unappealing, if it was something like this:
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It would look way better IMO
That looks cool, but it makes me wonder how the blade holds that shape. The one we see in the teaser is simpler and reads as more plausible (based on what little we know about lightsabers in the films). The other designs people have made with beams crossing with bent or curved protrusions look ugly and busy to me.

We only have one single shot of an unknown character pulling out some kind of weapon that looks different from existing sabers in the franchise in several ways. We know literally no context for it. We don't know who the character is, why he has the weapon, how he came to have it (Did he build it? Steal it?), or how he uses it in combat. Seems awfully silly and presumptuous to suggest "better" ways for it to be designed by knowing literally nothing about it except for what it looks like.
 
One thing that bothered me about that shot (as bad ass as it was) - don't the foils need to be flat in atmospheric flight?

Was that ever established? I guess it's a new model anyways. I thought it was "attack formation." As was described in film. Makes sense you get more of a spread on your lasers that way.

I don't think that was ever mentioned in the films, maybe in the EU. Opening the wings is just for combat.

I don't think it was ever established, but comparing it to airplanes, a "closed" formation "feels" like it would work better.
 
Have watched the trailer a few times.

Fucking hell, I need one of those x-wings.

I also hope the new bad's light saber means a return to "knights" and less wirefu whipping about of lightsabers that plagued the new movies.
 
i'm liking the theory of the hilt being exhaust pipes, even though it makes no sense.

I'm partial to the *dude just slapped it together somewhere in a cave hence the weird design/unstable flamey blade*.

Then I realize I've thought too much about it.
 
What if that sith lord is just some troll and cuts his own hand off within 5 minutes of whipping it out? All this discussion for naught.
 
I don't think it was ever established, but comparing it to airplanes, a "closed" formation "feels" like it would work better.

Eh, if the Falcon can pull the maneuvering in the trailer in atmosphere with whatever propulsion technology exists in SW, then I don't think the wing positions matter for the x-wings.
 
All this McQuarrie art reminds me of how brilliant he was. Can you imagine where Star Wars would be without him? It would be like if John Williams hadn't composed the original film.

I wish his blue robed Obi-Wan concept had made it into the prequels. Maybe in their scavenging, the ST directors can pick it up.

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but that is not functional, the way it is now is to have excessive energy output as hilts.

That's giving a scientific answer to something that should be magical. It's prequel vs original trilogy mindset. You won't get an answer like that. The hilt is like that because.
 
That's giving a scientific answer to something that should be magical. It's prequel vs original trilogy mindset. You won't get an answer like that. The hilt is like that because.

But the lightsaber isn't something magical, it's a real, physical object that has real (in the SW universe of course) science and logic behind it. The Force is something entirely different.
 
I think my problem with it are those side stubs, looks visually unappealing, if it was something like this:
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It would look way better IMO

The thing is, even though that does look badass, it also goes in an entirely different direction than the other sabre. That looks like some impossibly sweet Sith artifact (following the general "old Jedi/Sith stuff is better" rule), while the crossguardsaber looks vaguely slapdash, like it was built by someone with only a loose idea of how a lightsaber is supposed to work. Personally, I think that has more interesting story possibilities.
 
But the lightsaber isn't something magical, it's a real, physical object that has real (in the SW universe of course) science and logic behind it. The Force is something entirely different.

Not exactly. A non-force sensitive person can't use a lightsaber (like a jedi so to speak) and it's not from lack of training. There is magic / force behind using a lightsaber and that makes it a magical object. It can't be explained by science because it can be unexplained by magic.
 
but that is not functional, the way it is now is to have excessive energy output as hilts.

Even if that is the right answer, don't act like you know something which you don't.

Not exactly. A non-force sensitive person can't use a lightsaber (like a jedi so to speak) and it's not from lack of training. There is magic / force behind using a lightsaber and that makes it a magical object. It can't be explained by science because it can be unexplained by magic.

No, it's because the blade is massless and it's hard to handle. It requires the force to develop a new level of mastery over. Force helps the user protect themselves and weight the blade to have proper physical control over.
 
Not exactly. A non-force sensitive person can't use a lightsaber (like a jedi so to speak) and it's not from lack of training. There is magic / force behind using a lightsaber and that makes it a magical object. It can't be explained by science because it can be unexplained by magic.

Wait, I thought the reason non-Jedi didn't use lightsabers is because without force awareness they're just as likely to chop off their own limbs as their enemy's.
 
All this McQuarrie art reminds me of how brilliant he was. Can you imagine where Star Wars would be without him? It would be like if John Williams hadn't composed the original film.

I wish his blue robed Obi-Wan concept had made it into the prequels. Maybe in their scavenging, the ST directors can pick it up.

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Didn't this become Bail Organa's outfit?

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Close but not quite
 
I think my problem with it are those side stubs, looks visually unappealing, if it was something like this:
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It would look way better IMO
Lucas would go for what looks "cool", hopefully JJ has gone with what makes sense in the movie/universe. It's too early to say, it could be an early version of a lightsaber not yet perfected or many other possibilities.
 
I am kinda surprised at the claymore lightsaber backlash. I bet it has no other function than he is going to stab someone in the gut then activate the stubs and twist it when he kills Luke.
 
http://youtu.be/6v5VahaEL7s?t=1m

established as an x-wings attack position

Er, I meant why it should keep them closed while it atmosphere. I was thinking default would be "closed" in all instances unless you're attacking in space.

Eh, if the Falcon can pull the maneuvering in the trailer in atmosphere with whatever propulsion technology exists in SW, then I don't think the wing positions matter for the x-wings.

Fair enough. I think this settles it.
 
Er, I meant why it should keep them closed while it atmosphere. I was thinking default would be "closed" in all instances unless you're attacking in space.

Fair enough. I think this settles it.

And to take the point to it's ultimate conclusion they must be making an attack approach.
 
I completely forgot that Domhnall Gleeson was accounced for this! Do we know what role he's playing?

And I just watched an interview with John Boyega and it really made me confident that he's going to do an excellent job. He seems very likeable, very comfortable in the spotlight but still humble.
 
Initial reaction was bad. I don't like the lightsaber at all... at all.
seriously...

at all

After my second viewing of the trailer, I'm liking it again. After the initial shock of the unnecessary design of the new lightsaber (feels like a tribute to the unnecessary design of the Darth Maul lightsaber), I like it. I'm actually a little excited, not going to lie.The droid on the soccerball looking thing was weird tho.
 
I completely forgot that Domhnall Gleeson was accounced for this! Do we know what role he's playing?

And I just watched an interview with John Boyega and it really made me confident that he's going to do an excellent job. He seems very likeable, very comfortable in the spotlight but still humble.

Well I hope there is more than one new Jedi role. Maybe Boyega is just a stormtrooper, but I hope he defects and becomes trained.

For some reason Domhnall gives me that jedi feeling, but I could be entirely wrong. I'd love to see Daisy trained, not enough female jedi. I think he will be more prominent than Oscar Isaac which people keep mentioning as being the other third main lead, or what have you.

At any hand it would be a shame if the jedi were left off as a single master/student relationship like the sith became. Luke will probably train a few of them I'd imagine, or think.

edit: your link is fucked btw, it's to some neogaf thread.
 
Well I hope there is more than one new Jedi role. Maybe Boyega is just a stormtrooper, but I hope he defects and becomes trained.

For some reason Domhnall gives me that jedi feeling, but I could be entirely wrong. I'd love to see Daisy trained, not enough female jedi. I think he will be more prominent than Oscar Isaac which people keep mentioning as being the other third main lead, or what have you.

At any hand it would be a shame if the jedi were left off as a single master/student relationship like the sith became. Luke will probably train a few of them I'd imagine, or think.

edit: your link is fucked btw, it's to some neogaf thread.
I think Boyega will end up being a Jedi. And ueah, I get the feeling that Domhnall's going to be a Jedi too. Probably not a major character though. And Daisy absolutely needs to be a Jedi.

Oops! Guess I didn't hit "copy" and pasted one of my other tabs. This is what it should have been. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm5ZHds8BQw
 
Best part of the trailer for me...when Boyega shows up the timing and the framing is very spielberg. Looking forward to this big time.
 
At least the hilt would actually work as a hilt. Also, it looks less silly.

What's wrong with the hilt on the original?

And I don't really think either of the designs looks "silly," per se. The original looks a bit cobbled together, and the proposed revision looks more fantasy/coherent, but neither of them strikes me as silly.
 
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