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Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows

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Watching these last episodes is like me administrating the auto-injector for my multiple-sclerosis. I know what happens when I pull the trigger, but I still pussyfoot around far too long for a necessary and painful end. Hyperbole o'course.

The fight was pretty good. Wu is going to be king and eff dat shite. Usual Kuvira spiel: blah blah less Hitler and mo' Napoleon plz blah blah blah 20th Century China blah blah blah Interwar period blah blah blah.
 
Miles Quaritch said:
I'd still give it a shot. The latest season has been very disappointing, but I think seasons 1 through 3 are definitely worth watching and if you feel you need closure, give four a shot as well.
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Yeah, I mean, I intend to watch the whole series (only seen S1), but it's just disappointing to hear that people aren't digging the final season.
 
SilentMatthew said:
Watching these last episodes is like me administrating the auto-injector for my multiple-sclerosis. I know what happens when I pull the trigger, but I still pussyfoot around far too long for a necessary and painful end. Hyperbole o'course.

The fight was pretty good. Wu is going to be king and eff dat shite. Usual Kuvira spiel: blah blah less Hitler and mo' Napoleon plz blah blah blah 20th Century China blah blah blah Interwar period blah blah blah.
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Still waiting on my plot twist.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
You're starting to remind me of console warriors who say "Wait till X game! It'll save the Y console!"
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Just you wait, The Wii U will get Half Life 3, and you will regret those words!

I...don't like how Toph just doesn't care that she was a horrible mother, I mean she cares, but she doesn't...its kinda weird.
 
Fj0823 said:
Just you wait, The Wii U will get Half Life 3, and you will regret those words!

I...don't like how Toph just doesn't care that she was a horrible mother, I mean she cares, but she doesn't...its kinda weird.
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I don't really think Toph even cares about being alive anymore, probably wants to go join Aang and Sokka.
 
Pretty good episode overall. The bending at the end was great, it was obvious that Toph was going to come to the rescue but I guess I just expected a more epic spectacle from someone who should be one of the most powerful benders in the show. Also disappointed that there was no Toph vs Kuvira, that avatar bet isn't looking too good after this episode...
 
Couple of reviews for Operation Beifong.

As I mentioned last week, a great episode builds incredible anticipation for the next chapter, and this episode sets up so many big things for the final three episodes. First, we have the Beifong clan heading to Republic City (sans Toph) with Bolin and Zhu Li, uniting all the heroes for the first time this season, just in time to prepare for Kuvira’s assault in two weeks’ time. And those preparations include Asami and Varrick building flying mecha suits (I am seriously so excited for those), and Korra finding a way to get the spirits to help save Republic City. Think about what that means. It’s very possible this series will end with benders fighting side-by-side with flying mecha and an army of spirits, which would be such a great mix of contemporary anime ideas and traditional mythological elements. I’m going to be very sad when this series is gone, but if the rest of Book Four is as strong as the last two episodes, it’s going to be one hell of a goodbye.
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"Operation Beifong" was a success! Between awesome moments like Suyin fighting Kuvira, and Toph reuniting with Lin, this week's The Legend of Korra had a lot going for it in terms of heart, humor and action. While there were a couple of weird plot points (Team Beifong running away from Kuvira, for example), they never fully took away from the momentum of the story.
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Book 4 has been pretty mediocre so far actually, like a friend who keeps pushing a TV show on you because "just wait! it'll get good!". Not Book 2 levels, but Book 3 probably won't be reached.
 
that Suyin Kuvira fight was awesome. gotta give the W to Kuvira there though.

it feels like they put way more effort into the earth/metal fights in Korra.
 
Every time I think they can't wow me with bending anymore, they just keep amping it up.

Snapping on the metal paneling as armor mid-fight. Goddamn.
 
I wish they would put Bolin back with Varrick. So amazing when they're together. Other than that, everything has already been said in here, good bending, meh everything else. I like Bolin though, he is goofy with a big heart, I find him likable when the writers aren't trying to make him annoying/funny.
 
Some new avatars (the lin + bolin one had terrible lighting since it was at night and by a fire (so the glow), looks kind of bad. But eh.

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EDIT: Just realized the hair strands on Kuvira look good on the black GAF theme, not as good on the white (because of how the outlines made the thin hair strands less full). Can't tell on the dark theme, but can tell on the white. Oops.
 
Cloud Strife said:
Most of my shit is sorted, will start posting more frequently now.

My thoughts:

-Kuvira is shaping up to be Unalaq levels of horrible. Like seriously, she had a logical (barely) reason for uniting the Earth Kingdom and now she just wants to attack? Why? Hopefully we get a reason to prevent her from descending to shit-tier next episode. Her bending skills are incredible though, no doubt.

-Beifongs were great this episode, and depending on your view I think one of LoK's great strengths (and weaknesses) is its wide array of characters. When it works, we can have an episode without any Korra action whatsoever and it's still enjoyable. The downside obviously being when there isn't ENOUGH TIME NICK to properly give all of these characters their needed attention. Kya?

-Toph was good, I enjoyed seeing her interact with Lin more so then her actually doing fighting or anything else. Kanto huh? Whodafuq. Anyway, I find it annoying that they set her up to be this amazing badass but then, lolnope let's let the kids handle it. I mean, Korra will obviously win in the end but logically everything could be aboided if Toph just stretched her arms a little. Same with the Katara retcon for Season 2, there was really no need to mention that at all.

-Bending in this episode was ON POINT. Epic shit. That one scene where...ah hell, it was all good.

-Zhu Li...so disappointing. I feel like they wasted time on this entire subplot if she was actually foolish enough to keep the bloody thing on her. I mean, you might argue that it was a last second tamper, but still. As soon as Toph said "she's lying", everyone and their respective cell count said "ORLY".

-Bolin is so fucking annoying. Like he's actually so dumb, and the negatives to his character outweigh the positives.

-Where is Kai? Again, point 2.

-Hopefully we get a scene of Varrick and Asami working together.

-WuOrra? KorrWu? Eh, who cares.

-Spirits will eventually realize the one path of cooperation is the universe inside of them. They will fuse with Korra so she can pierce the heavens.

-Oh, and fuck you Nick for ruining the potential of one of my favourite shows. Seriously.
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Yeah, pretty much my thoughts on this too. I mean, the fighting was amazing. But it just feels like a whole lot of nothing (again) episode. And so many plot points felt like they were either wasted, resolutions felt clunky (not really worth the plot in the first place), or way too drawn out.

This is such a bizarre season. Kuvira takes power > Kuvira Takes Metal City > Wait for Kuvira to launch her attack on Republic City.

Pretty much been the whole season in a nut shell. Then other stuff has happened around it, but it all brings us back to Republic City as they anticipate her attack. Love how all of this could have been dealt with in like 5 min, if Korra wasn't bugging out. Unlike past villains, this one could have been dealt with. The only thing that COULDNT be dealt with (so easily at least), is the political/ and governance issues after removing Kuvira. But the writers were never going to touch a political plot seriously.
 
I'd shit my pants to if I had to go toe to toe with Toph.

The explanation they gave on why Toph doesn't fight isn't bad at all, it's actually really good but for the love of all that is good why wait until toph and kuvira are in the same place to drop that? like 4-5 episodes of "oh tophs gonna wreck some shit" when it probably would have appealed to tophs "softer" side if she revealed she's too old to fight and still put her neck on the line to save her kids anyways.

Book 3 is a fluke but what the hell happened that made it that way? Was Atla a fluke? how is Korra consistently getting so much wrong?

Why am I still in love with these characters?

EDIT: I had to google kai since I thought there was a dual discussion on Dragon Ball and this episode for some reason. And I'm one of the people who really enjoyed Kai in B3 lmao.
 
DedValve said:
I'd shit my pants to if I had to go toe to toe with Toph.

The explanation they gave on why Toph doesn't fight isn't bad at all, it's actually really good but for the love of all that is good why wait until toph and kuvira are in the same place to drop that? like 4-5 episodes of "oh tophs gonna wreck some shit" when it probably would have appealed to tophs "softer" side if she revealed she's too old to fight and still put her neck on the line to save her kids anyways.

Book 3 is a fluke but what the hell happened that made it that way? Was Atla a fluke? how is Korra consistently getting so much wrong?

Why am I still in love with these characters?
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Meh, the explanation rang hollow to me. Toph is the biggest piece of shit ever. Toph is OP as hell and they could have taken out Kuvira right then and there (they would have to of fled her army, but they could have taken her out). Toph is more OP than the Avatar at this point lol

Obviously at this point in the story, a side character isn't going to take out the main villain. So it's fine. But it's just kind of funny how insanely OP Toph is. They should have just had her not show up to the fight at all, and stuck to her guns. Vs show up and just wipe out shit with one foot stomp. Everything they did with this character (down to her resolution with Lin's plot, to her not wanting to get involved)...yeah fuck Toph.
 
DedValve said:
I'd shit my pants to if I had to go toe to toe with Toph.

The explanation they gave on why Toph doesn't fight isn't bad at all, it's actually really good but for the love of all that is good why wait until toph and kuvira are in the same place to drop that? like 4-5 episodes of "oh tophs gonna wreck some shit" when it probably would have appealed to tophs "softer" side if she revealed she's too old to fight and still put her neck on the line to save her kids anyways.

Book 3 is a fluke but what the hell happened that made it that way? Was Atla a fluke? how is Korra consistently getting so much wrong?

Why am I still in love with these characters?

EDIT: I had to google kai since I thought there was a dual discussion on Dragon Ball and this episode for some reason. And I'm one of the people who really enjoyed Kai in B3 lmao.
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Didn't they lose some key writers from ATLA?

A lot of the main problem I have with the series is affected by the limited format and the problems that Nick caused them from the start.
 
Azula said:
Meh, the explanation rang hollow to me. Toph is the biggest piece of shit ever. Toph is OP as hell and they could have taken out Kuvira right then and there (they would have to of fled her army, but they could have taken her out). Toph is more OP than the Avatar at this point lol

Obviously at this point in the story, a side character isn't going to take out the main villain. So it's fine. But it's just kind of funny how insanely OP Toph is. They should have just had her not show up to the fight at all, and stuck to her guns. Vs show up and just wipe out shit with one foot stomp. Everything they did with this character (down to her resolution with Lin's plot, to her not wanting to get involved)...yeah fuck Toph.
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I think you over estimate how much she can do at her age. I don't think she has the speed or resilience to take hits. That move to knock down Kuvira's soldiers isn't the same as a fight. Skill can only go so far.

After Bolin mentioned his lavabending I'm hoping to see a giant lava wave happen. Also, I like Opal less after this episode. She didn't need Zhu Li to tell her Bolin's heart was in the right place. She used him instead of forgiving and having him make amends. Didn't sit well with me.
 
A Human Becoming said:
I think you over estimate how much she can do at her age. I don't think she has the speed or resilience to take hits. That move to knock down Kuvira's soldiers isn't the same as a fight. Skill can only go so far.

After Bolin mentioned his lavabending I'm hoping to see a giant lava wave happen. Also, I like Opal less after this episode. She didn't need Zhu Li to tell her Bolin's heart was in the right place. She used him instead of forgiving and having him make amends. Didn't sit well with me.
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I think I estimate just fine. :P

EDIT: I'm being facetious. The explanation of her being too old makes sense. I think my issue with Toph was a much larger one (just how they resolved her plot with Lin, and how she refused to get involved when they needed her). That said, she pretty much says she was talking out her ass, and that the real reason she didn't jump in was her health and age. And so her saying all that other stuff about not getting involved was just a cover up for it. But when you pair that off with her being an asshole to Lin, bleh. Fuck this character.
 
jwk94 said:
Wait so why didn't they all just finish off Kuvira right then and there?
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Toph said it in the episode. She's too damn old to be fighting. She got involved to cover them but couldn't go any further because her body can't take the rigors of combat. Even if her bending is ridiculously powerful, she still has to move and take hits in addition to having the stamina to continue a prolonged fight. It's the same reason Katara didn't get involved in the Civil War stuff in S2. She's a master waterbender but her age prevents her from fighting for longer periods.

Kuvira taking over Republic City makes sense because it was established on lands that belonged to the Earth Kingdom prior to the Fire Kingdom taking it, as I recall.

Overall, the ep was great aside from Zhu Li not bothering to get rid of the pin but I suspect she pulled it last minute and couldn't get rid of it.
 
It's so weird that I enjoy most of these episodes. Then jump on GAF and read mostly negative impressions. But then the reviews from around the Web echoes my sentiments.

I'm pretty excited to see how this show will end. Looking forward to marathon all four Seasons during my winter break.
 
Shouta said:
Overall, the ep was great aside from Zhu Li not bothering to get rid of the pin but I suspect she pulled it last minute and couldn't get rid of it.
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You'd think that, but baton Jr. said he last checked it last night. So that's hours of time for zhu li to do the thing. And if you can covertly take out an integral part of a complicated machine without being noticed, you can definitely drop the thing somewhere inconspicuously.
 
Shouta said:
Toph said it in the episode. She's too damn old to be fighting. She got involved to cover them but couldn't go any further because her body can't take the rigors of combat. Even if her bending is ridiculously powerful, she still has to move and take hits in addition to having the stamina to continue a prolonged fight. It's the same reason Katara didn't get involved in the Civil War stuff in S2. She's a master waterbender but her age prevents her from fighting for longer periods.

Kuvira taking over Republic City makes sense because it was established on lands that belonged to the Earth Kingdom prior to the Fire Kingdom taking it, as I recall.

Overall, the ep was great aside from Zhu Li not bothering to get rid of the pin but I suspect she pulled it last minute and couldn't get rid of it.
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Her explanation checks out. But I still think the way she was portrayed in this series, has been pretty abysmal. Wanted to smack her this entire episode.

Bit-Bit said:
It's so weird that I enjoy most of these episodes. Then jump on GAF and read mostly negative impressions. But then the reviews from around the Web echoes my sentiments.

I'm pretty excited to see how this show will end. Looking forward to marathon all four Seasons during my winter break.
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Mostly? I'd say the majority has been positive. lol

Also, you can enjoy an episode and still find flaws in it and talk about it. *shrugs*
 
Sub Boss said:
Because Korra needs to finish Kuvira the same way Aang needed to finish off Ozai.
But she cant because she was weak.
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Technical reason: it's not the right time in the plot.

Logical reason: old age.

Pretty much. Toph is basically fan service. Super OP. But in reality too old and can't really fight anymore. All talk at this point. She was pretty strong when she dropped her foot down. But I guess any physical fighting beyond that would be too much for her. Makes sense logically.

Sou Da said:
Yeah but why couldn't Bolin just melt the cannon?
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To be fair, you could do what ifs for a lot of things on this show (or any show that has magic powers). I guess it's fair to say, writers shouldn't write scenarios where obvious things should have happened. That the best kind of writing, considers all that when writing things for conflict/tension.

But yeah, Bolin could have probably started throwing Lava since it's pretty OP. I think the one thing to consider though, is her army is really really massive. Like REALLY massive. They might not have all been there. But they could have swarmed pretty quickly in that area.
 
Shouta said:
Toph said it in the episode. She's too damn old to be fighting. She got involved to cover them but couldn't go any further because her body can't take the rigors of combat. Even if her bending is ridiculously powerful, she still has to move and take hits in addition to having the stamina to continue a prolonged fight. It's the same reason Katara didn't get involved in the Civil War stuff in S2. She's a master waterbender but her age prevents her from fighting for longer periods.
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Yeah but why couldn't Bolin just melt the cannon?
 
Trey said:
You'd think that, but baton Jr. said he last checked it last night. So that's hours of time for zhu li to do the thing. And if you can covertly take out an integral part of a complicated machine without being noticed, you can definitely drop the thing somewhere inconspicuously.
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That's assuming Zhu Li would be allowed near the machine during the evenings. If I was Kuvira, I wouldn't let anyone neari t without supervision so I bet Zhu Li only had access while she was working on it with Batar Jr.

Sou Da said:
Yeah but why couldn't Bolin just melt the cannon?
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He was off saving Zhu Li for one. He also might have gotten bopped while raising enough Lava, lol. Plus, Unless he takes out Batar Jr, they could probably build another one. Metal Benders and all that.

That or they wanted to save Bolin's crowning moment of awesome for later.
 
Shouta said:
That's assuming Zhu Li would be allowed near the machine during the evenings. If I was Kuvira, I wouldn't let anyone neari t without supervision so I bet Zhu Li only had access while she was working on it with Batar Jr.
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Should have dropped it on the floor. Anything. ANYTHING.

Shouta said:
He was off saving Zhu Li for one. He also might have gotten bopped while raising enough Lava, lol. Plus, Unless he takes out Batar Jr, they could probably build another one. Metal Benders and all that.

That or they wanted to save Bolin's crowning moment of awesome for later.
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Yeah I agree. The plan at that point was just to get Zhu Li out of there, and Bolin was more focused on getting Opal's family out of there as well. I think he pretty much nixed the idea of taking out the cannon when they talked him out of it (prior to him going to get Zhu Li).
 
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