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I'm not really expecting much from the ending at this point. I mean, it's basically Kuvira + an army marching in at Republic City. Pretty much seems to be mirroring Ozai + his nation army and Aang in their territory.

But since Kuvira isn't like this equal of the Avatar in terms of power, it just seems kind of strange. I wonder how they will make Kuvira like...worthy of a series final boss (or even just a season final boss). If Korra gets her shit together, she should be able to work Kuvira easily. So how do they elevate Kuvira to a point where she feels like an actual final conflict for Korra?

I guess the massive army and Invasion itself?

I think the fighting and spectacle of the finale should be great. Just kind of curious like...how they are going to pull it off.
 
Icyflamez96 said:
Hiroshi and Asami will be the final boss.
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Korra is her own final boss. 2deep.

Final fight sequence will be 15 min of Korra vs Avatar Spirit Korra. Just like...her punching the air (and people watching her swat and kick at the air). Camera pans to Tenzin's face "In the end, Korra was her own...worst...enemy."
 
I hope we meet Kanto in the next Avatar comic.

Also, is Su's father Jhoto or Hoenn!!? *badum-tsss* get it guys? Guys?

Ill see myself out.
 
Trey said:
There's an hour of Legend of Korra left. I will laugh my ass off if hiroshi doesn't show up again.
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Bumi and Kya gon make a 5 min cameo. lol at Kai. He's going to be in distance in a background pan like Jar Jar in Star Wars Episode 3.

Don't worry though, there will be plenty of time to cram in everyone for the 5 min flash forward epilogue at the end. Have to get Korra + Mako married w/ kids. Have to give forced resolution for all the side characters they had no time for.

All was well.

Fj0823 said:
I hope we meet Kanto in the next Avatar comic.

Also, is Su's father Jhoto or Hoenn!!? *badum-tsss* get it guys? Guys?

Ill see myself out.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/2odk7a/b4e10_lin_beifongs_father_finally_revealed/
 
Azula said:
I'm not really expecting much from the ending at this point. I mean, it's basically Kuvira + an army marching in at Republic City. Pretty much seems to be mirroring Ozai + his nation army and Aang in their territory.

But since Kuvira isn't like this equal of the Avatar in terms of power, it just seems kind of strange. I wonder how they will make Kuvira like...worthy of a series final boss (or even just a season final boss). If Korra gets her shit together, she should be able to work Kuvira easily. So how do they elevate Kuvira to a point where she feels like an actual final conflict for Korra?

I guess the massive army and Invasion itself?

I think the fighting and spectacle of the finale should be great. Just kind of curious like...how they are going to pull it off.
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Guessing they'll give Kuvira a giant mech suit or something. Would explain what she did with all of that extra metal from taking down Zaofu's domes. Suppose that would give her a bit of an advantage against Korra.
Or Toa's dream comes true and Kuvira turns into a giant angry spirit.
 
Hamlet said:
Guessing they'll give Kuvira a giant mech suit or something. Would explain what she did with all of that extra metal from taking down Zaofu's domes. Suppose that would give her a bit of an advantage against Korra.
Or Toa's dream comes true and Kuvira turns into a giant angry spirit.
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Super mech fights.

I was kind of expecting them to pull some Unalaq shit by having her get fused with the spirit vines. But it looks like they are staying clear of that (just using it as a beam/nuke). Which I'm glad. I guess I'm just wondering how they elevate her on a physical threat level against Korra (assuming Korra is back in 100% shape when in the Avatar State).
 
Azula said:
Korra is her own final boss. 2deep.

Final fight sequence will be 15 min of Korra vs Avatar Spirit Korra. Just like...her punching the air (and people watching her swat and kick at the air). Camera pans to Tenzin's face "In the end, Korra was her own...worst...enemy."
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Azula said:
Should have dropped it on the floor. Anything. ANYTHING.



Yeah I agree. The plan at that point was just to get Zhu Li out of there, and Bolin was more focused on getting Opal's family out of there as well. I think he pretty much nixed the idea of taking out the cannon when they talked him out of it (prior to him going to get Zhu Li).
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Zhu Li may have wanted to keep it so nobody could find it, and she did not have the time to properly dispose of it, thats all i got.

Korra can control the Avatar state now, right?
Whats stopping her from going to Kuvira, say "you've gone too far, bitch" and blow her away, why she needs the spirits?
 
Azula said:
Technical reason: it's not the right time in the plot.

Logical reason: old age.

Pretty much. Toph is basically fan service. Super OP. But in reality too old and can't really fight anymore. All talk at this point. She was pretty strong when she dropped her foot down. But I guess any physical fighting beyond that would be too much for her. Makes sense logically.
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So now you agree with me? :|
 
A Human Becoming said:
So now you agree with me? :|
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Was actually being facetious (joking in my stubbornness).

Thing is, my overall issue with Toph was more so how they portrayed her. That was my real issue. Her explanation of not wanting to fight beyond what she did (because of her health) actually makes sense.

So yeah, I agree. Def.

EDIT: actually I don't even think how they portrayed her was off. Toph has always been a dick So. Eh. So that actually makes sense too. So I really don't have an issue at all. LOL More so, I just didn't like how they glossed over her + Lin's plot resolution. But meh.

Sub Boss said:
Zhu Li may have wanted to keep it so nobody could find it, and she did not have the time to properly dispose of it, thats all i got.

Korra can control the Avatar state now, right?
Whats stoping her from going to Kuvira, all "you've gone too far, bitch" and blow her away, why she needs the spirits?
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Yeah...they have shown Kuvira multiple times IMO, being able to get taken out if it wasn't for her army backing her up, or something else stopping the fight from going on. IMO Korra could have taken out Kuvira in the Avatar State in their first fight. I think if Toph could fight beyond her first foot stomp, I think the Beifongs could have taken her out (if her army wasn't there).

Unlike Ozai and Unalaq, I just don't see Kuvira as really being like a threat threat outside of her army. Like, even Zaheer became a thread when he could fly like Superman.
 
So lemme get this straight. 86 year old Toph thinks she is beyond fighting, while then 112 year old Bumi ran Azula out of Omashu and helped liberate Ba Sing Se.

I think we know who the better earthbender is.
 
If there's one thing I like of these writers is the nods to fan questions and the answers. "so who was lin's father"

"uuuuuuuuuh...ok"

There is no reason for Bolin to ask the question other than for the fans, and then his answer to her response is almost like the writers saying "see it made no fucking difference"
 
CDiggity said:
So lemme get this straight. 86 year old Toph thinks she is beyond fighting, while then 112 year old Bumi ran Azula out of Omashu and helped liberate Ba Sing Se.

I think we know who the better earthbender is.
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lol yeah....

Don't tell Korra fans that. This makes sense. Shhhh. Things are convenient for the writers when it's convenient. :P

Toph was fan service, only she wasn't really fan service. The bait and switch.
 
I see the thing with Toph like how Kenshin's master was handled in the Kenshin manga. I remember hearing that the author of the manga said that he couldn't keep Kenshin's master around for too long because he was so strong he could easily defeat any of the villains and steal the show from the main character. Same thing here with Toph. I think old age is a perfectly valid excuse. I don't really care for comparing her to Bumi since that comparison doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. The story's written to have Korra be the hero in the end, like pretty much every series like this with a main hero.

Enjoyed the latest episode. It was nice to see the whole Beifong family reunited. And I like the idea of Toph not being interested in marriage. I even like the idea of her not being that great of a mother. Fits her personality, IMO.

It looks like season 4 won't be as good as season 3 was, which is a shame. But at the same time, the Korra series has had problems from the get go. I blame the writers, sure. But I still found the show entertaining overall. I mostly blame Nickelodeon, though. They've been screwing over this series since before it even aired.
 
Admiral Woofington said:
she needs to leave the fight to the younger generation because her eyesight is failing her
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lol

In all seriousness, I don't think anyone should have an issue with Toph being too old to fight. She's an old grandma. Bryke did the best they could with the fan service.

At least it wasn't likr Zuko getting into a 1 min battle and getting knocked on his old ass.

EDIT: being serious, I think the explanation of Toph made 100% sense. She pretty much said all her talk about "not getting involved in conflicts" was BS, and the real reason was her back hurt because she old.
 
you can give as many reasons as you want to try and justify it and all I hear/read is

"If she fought, it would make the rest of the characters look boring and unnecessary. Because that doesn't happen everytime Mama Korra has to save everybody when they all become incompetent within a certain radius near her"
 
Azula said:
lol

In all seriousness, I don't think anyone should have an issue with Toph being too old to fight. She's an old grandma. Bryke did the best they could with the fan service.

At least it wasn't likr Zuko getting into a 1 min battle and getting knocked on his old ass.

EDIT: being serious, I think the explanation of Toph made 100% sense. She pretty much said all her talk about "not getting involved in conflicts" was BS, and the real reason was her back hurt because she old.
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BUT TOPH IS THE GREATEST BENDER ALIVE
 
Admiral Woofington said:
you can give as many reasons as you want to try and justify it and all I hear/read is

"If she fought, it would make the rest of the characters look boring and unnecessary. Because that doesn't happen everytime Mama Korra has to save everybody when they all become incompetent within a certain radius near her"
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That's not why I thought they did it. I just assumed that logically, they couldn't have Toph fight (because she's OP) that any kind of fight with her, wouldn't have made sense. Because if she could fight at her age, she would have been able to take Kuvira. And you can't have Kuvira lose at this point in the fight.

That's why I initially said, they should have just had Toph stick to her guns and not show up to the fight at all. I guess you could have had a fight sequence where Kuvira's army rushed in, so they had to give up the fight and flee? I dunno.

But that was my assumption for why they didn't have her fight. Didn't consider that it was because the other reason you stated.

Either way, I still think as far as excuses go, this one at least makes logical sense? Although maybe it felt a bit clunky?
 
Admiral Woofington said:
you can give as many reasons as you want to try and justify it and all I hear/read is

"If she fought, it would make the rest of the characters look boring and unnecessary. Because that doesn't happen everytime Mama Korra has to save everybody when they all become incompetent within a certain radius near her"
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Group Dynamics? Every character have something unique about them justifying why they are on the team? Interesting bending battles with interesting use of bending?

This is Legend of Korra. Where you wonder why the fuck Bolin, Mako and Asami even exist most of the time.
 
Also to be fair at least they gave an excuse.

Buu Saga Goku could have ended the threat 1/3 into the series and save a lot of trouble and pain for everyone. But he decided against it since he wanted to give the next generation a chance and he wasn't going to be there forever.

(Just to note this ended horribly and he ended up having to come back and save the world anyway)

They probably wanted to avoid that situation with Toph, even if the excuse is rather clunky considering characters like Iroh and Bumi were around her age or older and still got shit done.
 
I guess that Toph just doesn't really care about Kuvira, she just didn't want her family dead.
 
I feel like some of the stuff in the show is supposed to be answers to concerns that fans have been making like when Toph said she was basically too old to fight in Republic City and that's why Katara wasn't involved with the dispute in season 2, but I do remember a lot of old folks throwing down in The Last Airbender. One was over 100 years old.
 
Blasian Persuasion said:
I feel like some of the stuff in the show is supposed to be answers to concerns that fans have been making like when Toph said she was basically too old to fight in Republic City and that's why Katara wasn't involved with the dispute in season 2, but I do remember a lot of old folks throwing down in The Last Airbender. One was over 100 years old.
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Damn Millennials being lazy and unambitious. The older generation always worked hard to achieve their goals.
 
I also was wondering why they just didn't jump Kuvira right then and there. I know Toph didn't want to fight, but you had lavabending Bolin, an airbender, two of the best metal benders in the world, and a couple of extra earth benders. Kuvira wouldn't have stood a chance.
 
Admiral Woofington said:
it's almost sad and endearing how you're still rooting for her to be a decent character
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The shows treatment of Kuvira has me a bit heart broken. She's got a great design and can fight nicely, but god damn at all that wasted potential. It's like they fell asleep at the wheel while writing her and crashed into metal bending Hitler.
 
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