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The other night in an online fight I won Sudden Death by running over Captain Falcon with Wario's motorcycle.

I hadn't laughed that hard all month.
 
The other night in an online fight I won Sudden Death by running over Captain Falcon with Wario's motorcycle.

I hadn't laughed that hard all month.

Nice lol. My best sudden death on For Glory was KOing a Peach By watering a tree at just the right moment. I felt like a god.
 
Guys, my game freezes as soon as ROB appears as a challenger (before I get to actually fight to unlock him). I haven't tried to unlock him via Crazy Orders yet, but I've hit 60 matches. Most of the matches were played on my roommate's NNID, but the actual freezing happens on mine. Haven't had a chance to check his yet.

I just got my Wii U repaired and returned by Nintendo after this happened: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/02/some-wii-u-users-report-memory-issue-with-super-smash-bros

Anyone know what's up?
 
Guys, my game freezes as soon as ROB appears as a challenger (before I get to actually fight to unlock him). I haven't tried to unlock him via Crazy Orders yet, but I've hit 60 matches. Most of the matches were played on my roommate's NNID, but the actual freezing happens on mine. Haven't had a chance to check his yet.

I just got my Wii U repaired and returned by Nintendo after this happened: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/02/some-wii-u-users-report-memory-issue-with-super-smash-bros

Anyone know what's up?

You mean this has happened multiple times? You play a Smash game, R.O.B. appears, and the game freezes every time?
 
Why does it trap so well. How the fuck am I suppose to get out of it?!

Isn't the Smash 4 iteration of PK Fire the easiest to DI out of ever? It sure seems that way to me as a Ness main, though I haven't been able to play older versions against actual people in a while.

I mean sure, if you don't know how to SDI out of it, then it does trap pretty well, but I don't find that to be the case against most good players.
 
That's it, I'm officially done with this game bar local multiplayer
Classic and All Star are simply not fun on higher difficulties with it's cheap AI.
All the characters I actually like suck so I'm stuck getting bodied online by whatever flavour of the month top tier.
Challenges are moronic and just dumb all around.
Pretty much I'm limiting myself to Trophy Rush for custom moves and Crazy Orders for CDs now. No point forcing myself to do crap which simply isn't enjoyable.
 
It makes you play the spacies doesn't it? either way, I just went for Uairs. Killed half before they even reached half way

Yeah you can pretty much use UAirs, NAirs or BAirs.


I think that event was the last one I was thinking it would be when I clicked on that link. I'd completely forgotten about it due to how easy it was.

That's it, I'm officially done with this game bar local multiplayer
Classic and All Star are simply not fun on higher difficulties with it's cheap AI.
All the characters I actually like suck so I'm stuck getting bodied online by whatever flavour of the month top tier.
Challenges are moronic and just dumb all around.
Pretty much I'm limiting myself to Trophy Rush for custom moves and Crazy Orders for CDs now. No point forcing myself to do crap which simply isn't enjoyable.


This is pretty much how I feel too, doing the same things over and over again for minimal reward isn't really meaningful content to me, it's why I'd rather they didn't really bother too much with single player modes.

Except I'll still keep playing online just because I have nothing better to do and because 1% of the time I'll be able to practice a matchup I'm not familiar with in FG.
 
That's it, I'm officially done with this game bar local multiplayer
Classic and All Star are simply not fun on higher difficulties with it's cheap AI.
All the characters I actually like suck so I'm stuck getting bodied online by whatever flavour of the month top tier.
Challenges are moronic and just dumb all around.
Pretty much I'm limiting myself to Trophy Rush for custom moves and Crazy Orders for CDs now. No point forcing myself to do crap which simply isn't enjoyable.

Challenges are pretty cool except ten of them.

What characters do you play ?
 
That's it, I'm officially done with this game bar local multiplayer
Classic and All Star are simply not fun on higher difficulties with it's cheap AI.
All the characters I actually like suck so I'm stuck getting bodied online by whatever flavour of the month top tier.
Challenges are moronic and just dumb all around.
Pretty much I'm limiting myself to Trophy Rush for custom moves and Crazy Orders for CDs now. No point forcing myself to do crap which simply isn't enjoyable.

I dont mind all star mode and the challenges, wish classic mode had break the targets and the other fun stuff it use to have. what character are you playing?
 
You mean this has happened multiple times? You play a Smash game, R.O.B. appears, and the game freezes every time?

Yes, tried it nearly 10 times by now in various modes. And just realized trying to go through Crazy Orders isn't going to work because ROB will appear at the end of the first match, which counts as a smash that goes towards unlocks.

Edit: My buddy just messaged me to say it finally didn't freeze and he was able to get through! (I'm at work, he's been dealing with this back at the apartment). But I'd still like to know why this happened and worry it might happen again.
 
A lot of people hold the c-stick while trying to DI, resulting in not-DIing.

Lol wow, I never do that and almost always get out of the PK Fire before Ness can even capitalize on hitting me with it (unless of course he's really close). Jumping out also helps put even more distance between him and yourself -- which is a disadvantage for Ness anyway because of his slow ground speed.
 
Lol wow, I never do that and almost always get out of the PK Fire before Ness can even capitalize on hitting me with it (unless of course he's really close). Jumping out also helps put even more distance between him and yourself -- which is a disadvantage for Ness anyway because of his slow ground speed.

Hmm for me normally when im fightign a good ness online. they always predict me my DI and hit me with either Nair Fair or fsmash if im sloppy.
or maybe i'm not as good as i think :s

Edit: Ah game and watch, yea my best friend uses him and he can tell he's different then before. second lightest character int he game i believe. did notice the buffed his d tilt , and up smash
 
Challenges are pretty cool except ten of them.

What characters do you play ?

I dont mind all star mode and the challenges, wish classic mode had break the targets and the other fun stuff it use to have. what character are you playing?

Game and Watch: Heavily nerfed from Brawl, still as easy to KO and still very weak, Oil Panic is situational and Chef/Judge are unreliable. Only saving grace is good mobility.

King Dedede: Far too slow to be useful, all good KO moves are easy to dodge and Gordo is worthless due to how easy it is to reflect. I'm sure Super Dedede Jump is worse in this game too.

Dr Mario: Worst recovery bar Little Mac, simply nowhere near as good as he was in Melee.

You don't like others characters ? There are almost 50 of them

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King Dedede: Far too slow to be useful, all good KO moves are easy to dodge and Gordo is worthless due to how easy it is to reflect. I'm sure Super Dedede Jump is worse in this game too.




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all this is wrong. Triple D is a monster and should be feared. Down tilt, dash, bair,fair, nair. forward tilt. All awesome great moves to use. as for his specials if you are getting your gordos hit back at u, u are using them wrong or too much. Hell even his foward smash and up smash are wicked for short hoppers and counters
 
Game and Watch: Heavily nerfed from Brawl, still as easy to KO and still very weak, Oil Panic is situational and Chef/Judge are unreliable. Only saving grace is good mobility.

King Dedede: Far too slow to be useful, all good KO moves are easy to dodge and Gordo is worthless due to how easy it is to reflect. I'm sure Super Dedede Jump is worse in this game too.

Dr Mario: Worst recovery bar Little Mac, simply nowhere near as good as he was in Melee.



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King Dedede is awesome, his dash attack is probably his best KO move (I killed once a Lucina at 65% with that), his gordos are better than you think and his Up smash and down smash are fast enough. All of his tilt are useful in some way. The UpB didn't change or slighty at best.
 
Game and Watch: Heavily nerfed from Brawl, still as easy to KO and still very weak, Oil Panic is situational and Chef/Judge are unreliable. Only saving grace is good mobility.

King Dedede: Far too slow to be useful, all good KO moves are easy to dodge and Gordo is worthless due to how easy it is to reflect. I'm sure Super Dedede Jump is worse in this game too.

Dr Mario: Worst recovery bar Little Mac, simply nowhere near as good as he was in Melee.



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You're going to change your mind the moment you play against someone who knows how to use him.

I will agree that Doctor Mario's recovery is awful though.
 
Doctor Tornado nerf was stupid.


Halve the endlag on Doctor Tornado and increase his movement speed and Dr. Mario becomes good again imo.


Also increase Ganondorf's grab range, that shit is ridiculous. It's not as if he even gets that much off of a grab anymore.
 
Thanks for the feedback and all. Out of all of them I was going to stick with Dedede anyways, my win loss ratio was far better with him than Doc or G&W, so I'll take the advice you all gave.

At the same time I've been looking into Little Mac (Like him but not sure if the Little Mac craze online had died down yet), Megaman and Bowser Jr. Any tips?
 
Doctor Tornado nerf was stupid.


Halve the endlag on Doctor Tornado and increase his movement speed and Dr. Mario becomes good again imo.


Also increase Ganondorf's grab range, that shit is ridiculous. It's not as if he even gets that much off of a grab anymore.

Dr. Mario is suppose to be slow, slower than Mario at least.
 
Thanks for the feedback and all. Out of all of them I was going to stick with Dedede anyways, my win loss ratio was far better with him than Doc or G&W, so I'll take the advice you all gave.

At the same time I've been looking into Little Mac (Like him but not sure if the Little Mac craze online had died down yet), Megaman and Bowser Jr. Any tips?

im a pretty confident megaman player, my tip for u is you can never throw enough blades and crash bombs. leaf shield is useless but it can screw up someone trying to recover. hmmm also with megaman its almost always a keep away game. use your f-smash when u think it can ko. Also grab to punish people blocking ur projectiles
 
I'm trying to figure out Dedede more as of late and yeah I'd agree that he's not to be underestimated, but sometimes it does feel like he's really restricted by a lack of quick moves, when Sonic's dashing around back and forth, up, down and all around chipping away it's like I'm stuck with a very limited set of options (especially as spindash>gordos) even by slow arse heavyweight standards. Still that forward tilt is handy as heck in these situations.
 
I'm trying to figure out Dedede more as of late and yeah I'd agree that he's not to be underestimated, but sometimes it does feel like he's really restricted by a lack of quick moves, when Sonic's dashing around back and forth, up, down and all around chipping away it's like I'm stuck with a very limited set of options (especially as spindash>gordos) even by slow arse heavyweight standards. Still that forward tilt is handy as heck in these situations.

DDDs tilts will fuck sonic up. u gotta try and predict his movements. remember he's almost always going to charge at u and either jump or try and fake away. u either try and forward tilt or dolt tilt him out. or up tilt if he jump in front u, then chase from there.
 
That's it, I'm officially done with this game bar local multiplayer
Classic and All Star are simply not fun on higher difficulties with it's cheap AI.
All the characters I actually like suck so I'm stuck getting bodied online by whatever flavour of the month top tier.
Challenges are moronic and just dumb all around.
Pretty much I'm limiting myself to Trophy Rush for custom moves and Crazy Orders for CDs now. No point forcing myself to do crap which simply isn't enjoyable.

To be completely honest, you're just bad. All characters are good. Some are a bit better than others, sure, but at the end of the day it's all about skill. Against the AI every character is good though.
 
Lol wow, I never do that and almost always get out of the PK Fire before Ness can even capitalize on hitting me with it (unless of course he's really close). Jumping out also helps put even more distance between him and yourself -- which is a disadvantage for Ness anyway because of his slow ground speed.

People just seem to panic when hit with certain attacks, and have both sticks pressed in a direction which doesn't work in this Smash. Is all I was saying, lol.
 
How do I escape stuff like Mario's Up Tilt spamming? No matter which direction I'm holding or if I try to fit a block in, I can't seem to be able to avoid the damage.
 
To be completely honest, you're just bad. All characters are good. Some are a bit better than others, sure, but at the end of the day it's all about skill. Against the AI every character is good though.

So if the world's best Ike player played the world's best Sheik player it would be even?
Seriously though, this isn't very good advice. You seem to forget that Classic and All Star have items on and that the AI can react to button presses very well at high difficulties.
Not to mention some challenges are pretty terrible. "Do this seemingly impossible task with this character you never use."
 
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