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[Skellig Gra]

This makes me sad to hear from you Edmond

I can understand why though.

We're leaving Middle Earth. Never to return.



In films anyway.

 

[Peru]

I had (still have) genuine feelings towards the LOTR films, not so much The Hobbit ones. Something about LOTR clicked when this didn't, even with the same team. Obviously LOTR is a more emotional story and a natural fit for an epic unlike The Hobbit, which should've been a more lighthearted romp --- but it's not just the decision to extend the book into three movies either. For example the LOTR soundtrack was an instant classic, but here Shore's sort of just plodding pleasantly along. Not sure the everyone's total dedication is in this. So I consider The Hobbit trilogy a failure with some redeeming features, but still look forward to today's screening and seeing storylines wrapped up.

 

[Vashetti]

I think The Hobbit movies will be looked upon more fondly (especially the Extended versions) in the context of LOTR.

When watching all 6 together, with the Hobbit flowing into LOTR, it should be an epic experience.

 

[Watevaman]

Oh man, I'm gonna be crying at the end of the movie?

But I'm going with friends!

 

[strafer]

ïm sure i will cry..

those last minutes in return of the king was emotionally exhausting...i went out of that theater a changed man...I had no fucking tears left.

 

[Vashetti]

Several points in this movie will make you cry, if you're invested at all in the story so far.

Not just the ending either.

Thorin's descent throughout is tragic.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

I've read the Hobbit, LOTR, and dabbled with Unfinished Tales and The Silmarillion. I see the movies as a lovely companion/extension to the books. Probably to an extent that's how you feel too.

How would you feel if somehow the fates convened and allowed Jackson to adapt The Silmarillion?

I'm thankful to Peter and his team for all that they have done, but I'd rather see a different team tackle The Silmarillion, if at all possible.

 

[brandonh83]

All five have been phenomenal films to me, and I'm sure this will be no exception.

 

[Vashetti]

All five have been phenomenal films to me, and I'm sure this will be no exception.

*high five*

 

[Loxley]

I'm surprised at just how re-watchable An Unexpected Journey has become for me. DOS I'm still fairly indifferent toward, but there's something about AUJ that keeps me coming back to it. That said, my opinion on these Hobbit films will likely be changing regularly as time goes on - as was the case with The Lord of the Rings.

For all I know I could hate AUJ in five years and love DOS. I'm going to have to sit down and watch all three EE's to get the full picture once that becomes an option.

 

[Vashetti]

I'm surprised at just how re-watchable An Unexpected Journey has become for me. DOS I'm still fairly indifferent toward, but there's something about AUJ that keeps me coming back to it. That said, my opinion on these Hobbit films will likely be changing regularly as time goes on - as was the case with The Lord of the Rings.

For all I know I could hate AUJ in five years and love DOS. I'm going to have to sit down and watch all three EE's to get the full picture once that becomes an option.

The troll scene is hilarious. I imagine that would have been a casuality if we had just two movies.

I'm still so curious as to what would have been cut if we just had two films.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

The troll scene is hilarious. I imagine that would have been a casuality if we had just two movies.

I'm still so curious as to what would have been cut if we just had two films.

Tauriel, Radagast and much of the White Council sub-plot would be missing.

 

[brandonh83]

This review excerpt from RT...

"I kept hoping with the second or third I could say, 'They really turned this ship around,' but they didn't. In fact, I've been calling these movies The Horriblit, because they're not very good."

THE HORRIBLIT: THE BATTLE OF THE FIVE HORRIBLIES

 

[Franchuzas87]

I read somewhere the first day of Evangeline Lilly on set was the scene of healing. I guess then some of the Tauriel-Kili relationship would be in the two films version anyway (but less, obviously). Edit: It actually was on DOS EE appendices, now that I think about it.

Some scenes that definitely wouldn't have been in the two films version (late pick-ups) are:

For me, all are welcome additions except for the last one. I don't think the idea of the Smaug chase is bad, but drags a bit too much.

 

[Curufinwe]

The troll scene is hilarious. I imagine that would have been a casuality if we had just two movies.

I'm still so curious as to what would have been cut if we just had two films.

I still see people saying Oh, it should have just been one film. Then the troll sequence would have never made it in.

 

[Curufinwe]

I'm thankful to Peter and his team for all that they have done, but I'd rather see a different team tackle The Silmarillion, if at all possible.

It definitely should be another team to tackle it.

But I would love to see Lee Pace get another crack at being a haughty elf lord. He's a total natural at it.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

It definitely should be another team to tackle it.

But I would love to see Lee Pace get another crack at being a haughty elf lord. He's a total natural at it.

Lee Pace would have made a very good Thingol.

Feanor possibly, although someone with a bit more verve would be more appropriate.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

I'm surprised at just how re-watchable An Unexpected Journey has become for me. DOS I'm still fairly indifferent toward, but there's something about AUJ that keeps me coming back to it.

Totally agree with you there. I find DOS a bit of a slog whereas AUJ always seems to fly by. There's several scenes in DOS I'm not a big fan of.

I'm expecting after Friday my ranking will be AUJ > TBOFA > DOS.

 

[Skellig Gra]

I'm surprised at just how re-watchable An Unexpected Journey has become for me. DOS I'm still fairly indifferent toward, but there's something about AUJ that keeps me coming back to it. That said, my opinion on these Hobbit films will likely be changing regularly as time goes on - as was the case with The Lord of the Rings.

For all I know I could hate AUJ in five years and love DOS. I'm going to have to sit down and watch all three EE's to get the full picture once that becomes an option.

To me everything up to Radagasts first appearance was exactly what I wanted. I loved all the scenes in the Shire and the Troll scene was hilarious.

 

[Gabriel_Logan]

I'm surprised at just how re-watchable An Unexpected Journey has become for me. DOS I'm still fairly indifferent toward, but there's something about AUJ that keeps me coming back to it. That said, my opinion on these Hobbit films will likely be changing regularly as time goes on - as was the case with The Lord of the Rings.

For all I know I could hate AUJ in five years and love DOS. I'm going to have to sit down and watch all three EE's to get the full picture once that becomes an option.

I love how long the party scene is in AUJ up until Bilbo leaves the Shire. Most people I know hated it because its too slow, but its just as I had imagined how those first few chapters of the books would be on screen.

 

[Vashetti]

I love how long the party scene is in AUJ up until Bilbo leaves the Shire. Most people I know hated it because its too slow, but its just as I had imagined how those first few chapters of the books would be on screen.

The whole sequence is hilarious. Some absolutely brilliant comedy in AUJ that is totally (IMO) in the spirit of the book.

 

[Ixion]

Yeah, I don't mind the dinner sequence and troll sequence, but when you add in the Azog flashback and Radagast's introduction, there's too much side-jumping among plot threads, and not enough forward moving.

 

[Little Old Man]

Yeah, I don't mind the dinner sequence and troll sequence, but when you add in the Azog flashback and Radagast's introduction, there's too much side-jumping among plot threads, and not enough forward moving.

Those plot elements should have been told by Gandalf in Bag End, rather than by Ian Holm in the first few moments of the film. The viewer should have been left to learn about the past alongside Bilbo. Balin recalling Thorin's past to Bilbo worked much better for that reason.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Colbert should play all Tolkien characters if any more films come to fruition.

 

[Vashetti]

Terrifying, yet strangely alluring.

Like a car crash, you want to look away - but can't.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Terrifying, yet strangely alluring.

Like a car crash, you want to look away - but can't.

Speaking of Colbert and cameos, is Peter's cameo well done and subtle in BOFTA?

 

[Gabriel_Logan]

Gandalf just read the Jamie/Cersie bit.

 

[Vashetti]

Speaking of Colbert and cameos, is Peter's cameo well done and subtle in BOFTA?

I couldn't spot him.

I think it could possibly be an EE scene only, like with ROTK and the Corsairs.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

I couldn't spot him.

I think it could possibly be an EE scene only, like with ROTK and the Corsairs.

That's certainly in keeping with tradition.

 

[Vashetti]

That's certainly in keeping with tradition.

His original cameo in DoS before the Bree opening was filmed is shockingly bad.

Philippa and Fran overruled him because it was "stupid" and it was promptly cut from the film. I always laugh at how Peter portrays how they said it was stupid.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Gandalf just read the Jamie/Cersie bit.

Or Colbert realising Martin's superiority over Tolkien's one dimensional characters.

 

[Loxley]

Or Colbert realising Martin's superiority over Tolkien's one dimensional characters.

 

[kingocfs]

My favorite scene of the trilogy. Ken Stott nailed it.

 

[Vashetti]

Just marathoned AUJ EE and DOS EE.

Absolutely fantastic. Can't wait to see the last one again next Wednesday.

 

[Frillen]

I couldn't spot him.

I think it could possibly be an EE scene only, like with ROTK and the Corsairs.

When/where was he again in ROTK?

 

[Vashetti]

When/where was he again in ROTK?

Only in the EE, killed by Legolas on the ships.

 

[maquiladora]

Watched the DOS EE today for the first time in anticipation of tomorrow. I mostly enjoyed it. The 3 hours flew by. I liked all of the new additions apart from Thrain.

 

[Vashetti]

Watched the DOS EE today for the first time in anticipation of tomorrow. I mostly enjoyed it. The 3 hours flew by. I liked all of the new additions apart from Thrain.

DoS EE made Mirkwood my favourite sequence in these movies so far.

They absolutely nailed how utterly lost they were.

 

[Franchuzas87]

I think DOS EE is fantastic, definitely improves the theatrical version. I'm not a fan of the bollocks scene (is the new stick insect joke), but almost every other addition is great.

 

[Loxley]

Oh hey, quick question for those of you who've seen the film (or at least listened to the OST) -

Spoiler

does the Misty Mountain theme make a comeback at any point?

 

[Vashetti]

Oh hey, quick question for those of you who've seen the film (or at least listened to the OST) -

Spoiler

does the Misty Mountain theme make a comeback at any point?

Answer:

Spoiler

nope

 

[Loxley]

Answer:

Spoiler

nope

Spoiler

This upsets me.

 

[Franchuzas87]

Well, I think it makes sense. The

Spoiler

Misty Mountains

are far behind at this point.

But I miss that theme too.

 

[Kyleripman]

Answer:

Spoiler

nope

Wow, that's absurd...what a terrible decision.
Glad I know this going into it, though, tbh.

 

[bengraven]

That's completely ridiculous.

I know that each film has a "theme", which is incorporated into the pop song in the end credits, but the misty mountain song almost sounded like a whole trilogy theme.

 

[Loxley]

Well, I think it makes sense. The

Spoiler

Misty Mountains

are far behind at this point.

But I miss that theme too.

I always saw it as the theme for the whole story, and since it's so good I'd assumed they'd treat it as such But I suppose its omission from DOS was a sign that they'd moved on from it. Such a bummer.

 

[Vashetti]

It went way beyond being the Misty Mountains theme, it became a theme for whenever the Dwarves did something heroic or triumphant.

I was convinced it would be the "Fellowship theme" of this series and would see several reprisals throughout the trilogy.

Big missed opportunity IMO.

 

[Kyleripman]

That's completely ridiculous.
I know that each film has a "theme", which is incorporated into the pop song in the end credits, but the misty mountain song almost sounded like a whole trilogy theme.

I always saw it as the theme for the whole story, and since it's so good I'd assumed they'd treat it as such But I suppose its omission from DOS was a sign that they'd moved on from it. Such a bummer.

I was convinced it would be the "Fellowship theme" of this series and would see several reprisals throughout the trilogy.
Big missed opportunity IMO.

My thoughts exactly. It's an incredibly rousing piece of music when it gets the orchestral treatment and it also worked so well being quietly sung at Bag End. It provided identity for the heroes of the story.

 

[-griffy-]

You remember the trailer that introduced that theme? Remember that guys? Before the first movie even released and that theme hit in that trailer? Oh man, good stuff.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

It does however add a sense of uniqueness to An Unexpected Journey.