The Hobbit trilogy - News, rumours and discussion
- Thread starter Edmond Dantès
- Start date
- Status
Kyleripman
Member
The Kindle version of "The Letters of JRR Tolkien" is on sale for $2.99 at the moment. Would you folks recommend it?
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Most certainly. Tolkien's letters not only add depth to the Legendarium, but to Tolkien himself.
Kyleripman
Member
Edmond Dantès;142502914 said:
Sounds good, thank you. I enjoyed his letter at the beginning of the Silmarillion, so it should be nice to get even more insight.
He's the one person on Earth that I will give a free pass to be a little crabby about anyone not named Tolkien touching his father's works. The Hobbit was basically written for him and his siblings, and while Christopher was serving in the RAF in Africa during WW2 his father would send him bits if The Lord of the Rings to get his feedback.
He has an attachment to the material that nobody else can or will ever equal. And hey, it's because of Christopher that we got The Silmarillion, the Histories, Unfinished Tales, The Fall of Arthur, etc. Do I wish he was a little more open-minded? Sure, but I absolutely do not fault him for feeling the way he does.
Off of what Dantès said, the letters are some of the most insightful things you can read when it comes to Tolkien. He gives a lot if candid opinions and answers a number of questions about the Legendarium that we otherwise would probably have never known, since he didn't give interviews very often.
Franchuzas87
Member
Skellig Gra
Member
Lol Yoshi, you always go full throttle man. Hope you enjoy.
what did you think of desolation?
SiegfriedFM
Member
I'll probably leave the thread for now. Only a few more days until I see it and I don't want it spoiled now.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
THANK YOU!!!
I think Desolation was so, so fucking good.
I calculated shit wrong before... It is NOW 7 hours to go!!!!!
HYPE!!!
Napalm_Frank
Member
I'll be seeing it tonight too. Can't wait.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Eager to hear more Tolkien GAF impressions.
Kyleripman
Member
Excellent! Bought it already. Finishing up a few books right now, but I should be able to get around to this shortly after Christmas. It will be a good post-Hobbit experience, I think.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Lord of the Rings or Bored of the Rings?
Can you tell the difference between Tolkien and Tolkien parody?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/.../Lord-of-the-Rings-or-Bored-of-the-Rings.html
15/15.
Can you tell the difference between Tolkien and Tolkien parody?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/.../Lord-of-the-Rings-or-Bored-of-the-Rings.html
15/15.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Just came back for seeing it. Overall, I really liked it. My personal ranking from 1 viewing would probably be AUJ>BOTFA>DOS. I doubt anyone who liked the previous ones would be too dissapointed in it but at the same time it won't change peoples mind who didn't like them. It's very much what you'd expect but with a much tighter pacing than AUJ for example if that's your thing.
I dunno how much impressions I should write right now. I don't want to go too much into the spoiler territory and I intend to see this at least once more in 2D (I saw it in HFR).
My absolute favourite part of the movie must have been King Thorin and the way he acts with the rest of the company after they take back Erebor. There were quite a few scenes with him I thought were some of the most powerful. The battle itself was very grand but honestly I wasn't very impressed by it. The situations, preparations between the armies around it were much more interesting and I feel the battle itself doesn't come close to something like Helm's Deep (my personal fav Jackson battle). Character moments make this movie, not the action scenes. They were ok but hardly anything that stay with you.
Other part of the movie I really enjoyed from a fanboy standpoint was the Dol Guldur stuff. There wasn't much of it but seeing (very slight spoilers)
Another very slight spoilers that I thought was a little dissapointing from the beginning:
Very interested to see the EE. More than the other movies to be sure. I'm not exactly sure what you could fill ~30 minutes with. I didn't get the feeling too much were cut from this one. I do hope it's more scenes for the company.
I dunno how much impressions I should write right now. I don't want to go too much into the spoiler territory and I intend to see this at least once more in 2D (I saw it in HFR).
My absolute favourite part of the movie must have been King Thorin and the way he acts with the rest of the company after they take back Erebor. There were quite a few scenes with him I thought were some of the most powerful. The battle itself was very grand but honestly I wasn't very impressed by it. The situations, preparations between the armies around it were much more interesting and I feel the battle itself doesn't come close to something like Helm's Deep (my personal fav Jackson battle). Character moments make this movie, not the action scenes. They were ok but hardly anything that stay with you.
Other part of the movie I really enjoyed from a fanboy standpoint was the Dol Guldur stuff. There wasn't much of it but seeing (very slight spoilers)
Galadriel, Saruman and Elrond kick some ass was cool to see.
Another very slight spoilers that I thought was a little dissapointing from the beginning:
There wasn't really an intro sequence akin to the rest of Tolkien movies. Even in DoS it was not as grand as the others but this one goes straight to where DoS left off. I don't know what they could have shown but it just feels like a tradition has been broken 
Very interested to see the EE. More than the other movies to be sure. I'm not exactly sure what you could fill ~30 minutes with. I didn't get the feeling too much were cut from this one. I do hope it's more scenes for the company.
Just came back for seeing it. Overall, I really liked it. My personal ranking from 1 viewing would probably be AUJ>BOTFA>DOS. I doubt anyone who liked the previous ones would be too dissapointed in it but at the same time it won't change peoples mind who didn't like them. It's very much what you'd expect but with a much tighter pacing than AUJ for example if that's your thing.
I dunno how much impressions I should write right now. I don't want to go too much into the spoiler territory and I intend to see this at least once more in 2D (I saw it in HFR).
My absolute favourite part of the movie must have been King Thorin and the way he acts with the rest of the company after they take back Erebor. There were quite a few scenes with him I thought were some of the most powerful. The battle itself was very grand but honestly I wasn't very impressed by it. The situations, preparations between the armies around it were much more interesting and I feel the battle itself doesn't come close to something like Helm's Deep (my personal fav Jackson battle). Character moments make this movie, not the action scenes. They were ok but hardly anything that stay with you.
Other part of the movie I really enjoyed from a fanboy standpoint was the Dol Guldur stuff. There wasn't much of it but seeing (very slight spoilers)Galadriel, Saruman and Elrond kick some ass was cool to see.
Another very slight spoilers that I thought was a little dissapointing from the beginning:There wasn't really an intro sequence akin to the rest of Tolkien movies. Even in DoS it was not as grand as the others but this one goes straight to where DoS left off. I don't know what they could have shown but it just feels like a tradition has been broken
Exactly what I said last week. Glad you enjoyed it
Blue Ninja
Member
Just saw it. Overall, it felt like it could've been subtitled 'The Desolation of Smaug: Part 2'. The titular battle was pretty exciting, however, though not on the level of the things we saw ten years ago. But that's not really what I'm looking for in these movies: compared to the original trilogy, these three films represent a telling of a tale. The story itself is perhaps not more light-hearted, but the way it's presented sure is. Maybe our friend Bilbo is just prone to embellishment.
In the end, I highly enjoyed it, regardless of whether or not it should've been its own film in the first place.
In the end, I highly enjoyed it, regardless of whether or not it should've been its own film in the first place.
Blue Ninja
Member
The ending scene was perfection.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
i cried so much... it was literally perfection
brandonh83
Banned
A man I can trust.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Guess I go see this Friday.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Finally this nonsense trilogy will done and dusted with.
What was the audience reaction?
Napalm_Frank
Member
''These fuckin glasses are killing me.''
bengraven
Member
bengraven
Member
Is it bad that just reading this makes me start to tear up?
Like my body has become adapted to survive Tolkien films - it's like "oh fuck, this fat shit is going to sob, just open up the ducts and let's get this shit over".
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Everyone clapped (it NEVER happens in my town) and I could hear the tears all over the place
Good.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
If you've never seen film in an IMAX it may be worth it, but you should take into account whether your local IMAX is capable of showing the film in HFR 3D. If not, then it will be the bog standard IMAX 3D experience without the higher frame rate.
AdventureRacing
Member
Even if the movie doesn't quite live up to expectations it will still be an emotional experience for me. It will be the end of another journey through middle earth and who knows it may be the last one we ever get (at the very least for quite a while).
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
Banned
Edmond Dantès;142652302 said:
That's some strong shade coming from you, Edmond. Makes me want your non-literary opinion on the films.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
I'm a Tolkien scholar first and foremost. The films including The Lord of the Rings trilogy are a very distant second to me. More so now. But frankly, I'll be glad to distance myself from J.R.R Tolkien in general for a while.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
They're fun films, but I feel apathetic towards them. They exist and I'm glad many Tolkien fans like them and that they're serving as a gateway to younger people who have yet to discover the works of Tolkien.
But for me, after nearly seven years of following this trilogy's development, I'll be glad it's all over when I leave the cinema on Friday night.
C00kie M0nster
Member
Edmond Dantès;142662559 said:
*Until the final EE release and Middle-Earth Saga Box Set come out.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
True indeed.*Until the final EE release and Middle-Earth Saga Box Set come out.
There's also a feeling of emptiness because I know in my heart that this is it for Middle-earth films.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
You shouldn't be sad on my account. All that matters is that you enjoyed the film and your journey into Middle-earth.This makes me sad to hear from you Edmond
I can understand why though.
I'm more than content with the books and a distant hope that I may see the First Age depicted on film before I depart the confines of this Earth.
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
Banned
Edmond Dantès;142662559 said:
I'm apathetic towards the Hobbit trilogy, for sure. I was never fond of them in the same way I am the original trilogy. I see where you're coming from, absolutely. At this point, I'm unsure if I'll even go to the theaters for this. I'm just not excited anymore.
Edmond Dantès;142668907 said:
I've read the Hobbit, LOTR, and dabbled with Unfinished Tales and The Silmarillion. I see the movies as a lovely companion/extension to the books. Probably to an extent that's how you feel too.
How would you feel if somehow the fates convened and allowed Jackson to adapt The Silmarillion?
- Status